Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[EvilMonkey]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382034122947

1080 ti under $600 brand new with eBay bucks without $640

Thanks to phil for putting me onto eBay bucks with mining rig parts lol

Anyone going to order these / have these cards already ?

ebay bucks?

ewbf 3.3 mining zec at nicehash

Awesome thanks man.  Is exactly the same as my batch and I have confirmed on nicehash it is coming in nice and fast.  Am making $3 US more a day than nicehash program.   Now I just have to figure out a way to turn my mining profits into actual money.

Is that $3/per card?

Yes per card.  Nicehash program just mines whatever it wants.  It was giving me around $7-8 per 1080ti.   If I use EWBF I think it gives 720 H/s vs whatever nicehash program uses and only gets 500 so it never really mines zec.

With EWBF I get 10-11$ per day and just point it to nicehash  pool to auto convert to BTC.

[citronick]

Tired  and still wondering if skein will come back.

 Seems to depend on where DGB goes - it's down 50% or so from it's peak this past week, and not looking real good right now.

 Nice run while it lasted though, and it's still up quite a bit over the last month or so.



 Anyone else notice that GTX 1070 cards have suddenly gone expensive and starting to get into short supply?

 Any bets it's at least partly related to the AMD 470/480/570/580 supply issue and some large farmers are slopping over into the "next best" ETH mining card options?

ya i think so, but im not understanding it....how is eth profitable to mine? i just watched someone build a 6 card 1070 rig on youtube and started it up, the numbers only seemed to be in the $25/day for a 6 gpu rig

The AMD 500/400 are basically sold out world wide -- how good is Vega and is it worth the wait?

Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.

The faster 1080tis however are heavy ZEC miners, 600-700sols per card because of the high amount of cores.

[johnnymark_]

Whats the best algos to mine with a GTX 1070 and what their returns?
Also it's possible to mine multiple algos at the same time?

[martyroz]

Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.

Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

[citronick]

Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.

Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

[philipma1957]

Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.

Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

[flminer]

Newb question.. Can Windows 7 be installed and run on usb 3.0 sticks or are they too slow?

[philipma1957]

Newb question.. Can Windows 7 be installed and run on usb 3.0 sticks or are they too slow?

lexar makes a good one

look at the nvos thread  he will mention the model

[vg54dett]

@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?

[citronick]

@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?

About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS) and about 3.2GHs on NH (30% vaulted & expenses and 70% convert to cash & expenses).

About 22 rigs (22x6xRX470) not online yet because I am short of server PSU -- hopefully yslyung gets his inventory soon.

To maximize profits and ROI quickly of 2nd GPU farm, ride the ETH and BTC wave.

The 1st farm is fully paid for thanks to ETH - that took nearly 1 full year of ETH mining.

Keep it realistic and practical, all of us spends a lot of money on mining equipment so you need to get them to work 24x7 asap, as stable and consistent as possible.

Moving from Windows to smOS Linux, deploying SRR and switching from ATX PSU to server PSU, were 3 major decisions that simplified mining operations -- and gained savings, less headache, more sleep.... in the long run.

Avoid the 7,8,9 card experiments (I thank my lucky stars on bailing out on Pandaminers) because every downtime is money not realized. Every disruption to hash not being submitted to stratum server, will result in inefficient speed to confirmed hash at poolside so if you have servers that are misbehaving, you need to stabilize them. OC is fun, but I learnt my lesson, undervolting is critically mandatory for mining farms.

The bigger the rigs, the bigger the PSUs, cooling issues and riser nightmares -- keep them simple like Phil's strategy.

Meanwhile, I started a mini NVIDIA farm 14 x Zotac 1070 Minis and 14 x 1080tis (GA-Auros, Zotac, Asus).

Still tweaking here and there with fullzero's NVOC Linux and soon smOS.

Its great to be mining this year and beyond -- I hope it will last loooong time!

Also appreciate all the help and guidance from many experts out there.

[philipma1957]

@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?

About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS) and about 3.2GHs on NH (30% vaulted & expenses and 70% convert to cash & expenses).

About 22 rigs (22x6xRX470) not online yet because I am short of server PSU -- hopefully yslyung gets his inventory soon.

To maximize profits and ROI quickly of 2nd GPU farm, ride the ETH and BTC wave.

The 1st farm is fully paid for thanks to ETH - that took nearly 1 full year of ETH mining.

Keep it realistic and practical, all of us spends a lot of money on mining equipment so you need to get them to work 24x7 asap, as stable and consistent as possible.

Moving from Windows to smOS Linux, deploying SRR and switching from ATX PSU to server PSU, were 3 major decisions that simplified mining operations -- and gained savings, less headache, more sleep.... in the long run.

Avoid the 7,8,9 card experiments (I thank my lucky stars on bailing out on Pandaminers) because every downtime is money not realized. Every disruption to hash not being submitted to stratum server, will result in inefficient speed to confirmed hash at poolside so if you have servers that are misbehaving, you need to stabilize them. OC is fun, but I learnt my lesson, undervolting is critically mandatory for mining farms.

The bigger the rigs, the bigger the PSUs, cooling issues and riser nightmares -- keep them simple like Phil's strategy.

Meanwhile, I started a mini NVIDIA farm 14 x Zotac 1070 Minis and 14 x 1080tis (GA-Auros, Zotac, Asus).



Still tweaking here and there with fullzero's NVOC Linux and soon smOS.

Its great to be mining this year and beyond -- I hope it will last loooong time!

Also appreciate all the help and guidance from many experts out there.

my rigs at the solar array  are all designed for uptime.  I don't have prefect access  to the array gear so uptime = king.

My amd rigs  at the array are now all up more then 4 weeks zero issues.
My nvidia rigs less time but that is due to some tweaking and setup time.

this is the solar array's  pc /gpu rigs  about 1225 usd per month.
50 -50 split  means 612.50 for me each month  that  fully covers all my power cost in my garage
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&addr=16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

so this is all profit from my garage
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&addr=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje
as is this all profit from my garage
http://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

and this is just the gpu /pc side   I am running asic  about 18.5 + 30 + 11.5  =  60 th  all 50 - 50  on coins

so 950 usd in btc from asics

and 2000 usd in btc from nicehash

and some zpool  

means 3k+  per month  after power   don't know how long it will last but  it is nice for now.


Not counting 3 gamer/miner rigs sales  for 6600  but profits on them are not a high markup.  Maybe 1000

[ticmmae]

on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

[citronick]

Read on Reddit that.... Vitalik is mulling on 1/3 POS so this POW to POS probably will go in phases.

There is hope for ETH mining and 3GB cards for a while more

[vg54dett]

@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?

About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS)

Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?

About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS) and about 3.2GHs on NH (30% vaulted & expenses and 70% convert to cash & expenses).

About 22 rigs (22x6xRX470) not online yet because I am short of server PSU -- hopefully yslyung gets his inventory soon.

To maximize profits and ROI quickly of 2nd GPU farm, ride the ETH and BTC wave.

-Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

Thank you for sharing Citronick, it's always a pleasure to read you, as it's a pleasure to read you Phil too !

[philipma1957]

on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

[ticmmae]

on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

I have a lot of space but would prefer quiet model as it will be in my house. also in pretty cold location.

and yes the fan is my real concern. I am just not sure which model has locked fans or not. I just heard randomly on some website sc2 has lock fans and cannot adjust fan speed manually. Have you tried aorus or zotac amp edition 1070s? I dont mind price being little high, just looking for something that will run stable with fan control and good hashrate as I am planning to build only 1 rig.

[VyprBTC]

on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

I have a lot of space but would prefer quiet model as it will be in my house. also in pretty cold location.

and yes the fan is my real concern. I am just not sure which model has locked fans or not. I just heard randomly on some website sc2 has lock fans and cannot adjust fan speed manually. Have you tried aorus or zotac amp edition 1070s? I dont mind price being little high, just looking for something that will run stable with fan control and good hashrate as I am planning to build only 1 rig.

My least favorite 1080ti is the MSI 2 fan model - the stupid thing blows air INTO the case, NOT out. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen - who the fuck designed it to do that?! "We can exhaust the air out of the case through the expansion slot... OR... Eureka! Let's make it blow the hot air in the other direction and into the case!"

I dont know about 1070's but on my 1080Ti EVGA SC2's afterburner adjusts the fan speed perfectly fine, and they are actually 1 of my favorite cards for now.

[Storx]

miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

Phillip, can you explain more on this? i ask because i have been running air rigs on auto and just locking the temp to adjust to...just trying to get the understanding why you recommend it

Also another question.. how do yall order multiple GPU's? i ordered 2 on ebay from newegg and 2 on newegg and they voided one of the orders with statement "ordered more than 2 per person, voided per policy guidelines....."

[philipma1957]

Waves seem to be a very viable option, during waves ICO, 29,636 bitcoins were crowdfunded from 5,790 participants in April and May 2016, with a market value of around $16 million at the time the ICO ended.
The value of waves is currently very impressive.

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on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

I have a lot of space but would prefer quiet model as it will be in my house. also in pretty cold location.

and yes the fan is my real concern. I am just not sure which model has locked fans or not. I just heard randomly on some website sc2 has lock fans and cannot adjust fan speed manually. Have you tried aorus or zotac amp edition 1070s? I dont mind price being little high, just looking for something that will run stable with fan control and good hashrate as I am planning to build only 1 rig.

I still am lacking info.

are you build a six card open air riser rig?

which  I really advise against  since you want 1 rig.

So to answer  I am stuck with no answer for you.

But if you are going open air  do 2 rigs of 3 cards each.

VpyrBTC  said the sc2 worked with afterburner

so get that.  and I can tell you what mobo to use for the three card builds.

[citronick]

@vg54dett

- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.

- Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?
>> to Dwarfpool.

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

>> Personally I like ethpool. The first GPU farm was 100% on ethpool and solid as rock.

When Dwarfpool upgraded their global nodes, we were getting single digit & incredible pings at 4-5ms (the proxy/stratum server must be in next building!!!)

Our hash submission became very consistent, ultra fast and 0 rejects - that's the basis of of choosing Dwarfpool.

Our trusty backup remains at ethpool and ethermine (3rd backup).

Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.