Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[philipma1957]

https://blockchain.info/address/12XaWdkRpScJmPNKTWMYN6cFTcvqrfpXAf


Setting this up


Link to thread 1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0

Link to thread 2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0

link to thread 3

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799555.0



link to EWBF_ miner for nvidia

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707546.0



links to smOS for AMD mining

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1695298.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0


my miner file for smos

 optiminer-zec v1.7 (zcash )

-s equihash.usa.nicehash.com:3357 -u 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.panda1 -p x


-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333  -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 3 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred


-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -epsw x -mport -3333 -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5

[philipma1957]

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At mods  please forgive me for  crowding the  the top slots.  they will clear up over time  thanks

phil



Back to mining

Okay just set up this card with a 1080ti


https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1070-GAMING-Z-8G.html#hero-overview




my rigs point to nicehash
note the panda rigs are amds not panda rigs as I sold them.

[TidusQQ]

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At mods  please forgive me for  crowding the  the top slots.  they will clear up over time  thanks

phil



Back to mining

Okay just set up this card with a 1080ti


https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1070-GAMING-Z-8G.html#hero-overview

https://www.msi.com/asset/resize/image/global/product/product_2_20160706171938_577ccd2af0298.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/1024.png


my rigs point to nicehash
note the panda rigs are amds not panda rigs as I sold them.
https://i.imgur.com/16fJBre.png

Hello again people, since the last thread has been closed i'll quote myself.
You've got a nice setup there @Philipma1957.

Hello people!!

I been for days reading all posts related and I would like to thank you all for all the great info you're sharing here.

I always been thinking about having my own setup and after reading you it's like I feel ready to spend some cash and atleast give it a try and see how it works.

I'm from Spain, Europe, and some pieces of the gear you recommend along this threads are out of stock and there's no way of obtaining them, especially the MSI Z270 board and ASROCK BTC.
So I still don't know what motherboard I could take (I just choose one, but I think it's too expensive and there should be something cheaper), some advice would be really appreciated.

I think I'm going to start with this:

PSU x1: EVGA-220-P2-1600W ---------------  Evga 1300 g2    this is much lower cost and really is a better choice for 3 1080ti gpus

GPU x3: Nvidia 1080 GTX TI   ----------------   okay

CPU x1: Intel-BX80662G4400-Pentium-LGA1151 --- okay    can you find g4560t or g4600t

MEM x1: Kingston-KVR21N15S8 ---- okay

MB x1: ASRock-Z270-Pro4 -------- can you find this ?  https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-Z270P-D3-Crossfire-Motherboard-Motherboards/dp/B01N2V0AHI/ref=sr_1_1?


Somehow if I end up seeing it good and my thoughts are to try to finish the first rig with 6x nvidia 1080 gtx ti, that's why I take that PSU. And also took nvidia for power saving, noise, heat, assorment of algorithms and the most important thing, being capable of outpowering any other gpu in the market.

What are your thoughts for starting and give it a try? Would you change something? Like going RX 580 instead of Nvidia? Motherboard?
Any minor detail to save some money? Smiley

Thanks again and sorry if there's any mistake since my english is not perfect.

First of all, the G4560T or G4600T are more expensive(€50 or 80€ more) that the one I posted atleast here in Europe, so i'm a bit confused since I haven't seen that you use CPU for mining. So I keep trying on taking the cheapest CPU I can find.

Secondly, the Motherboard isn't available also , I been reading you for days trying out all setups commented but there's no stock. So it has to be any MB not commented before.
I checked once again by previous comments and thankfully I saw that I was mistaken with my MB too.

So If anyone knows about any other MOBO which is not the MSI Z270, ASROCK BTC, GIGABYTE Z270 and it's kinda cheap, please tell me

@Philipma1957, why do you think it's not a good idea to have a rig of 5x or 6x nvidia cards? It makes even more expensive to have two rigs with 3x nvidia since I have to take another CPU, MB, MEM and PSU.
Is there any other reason I don't know?
Would be capable the EVGA 1200W of taking care of a 6x overclocked nvidia cards? I think it won't, but yep for the initial 3x it would go.

Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem )
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.

And well, thanks everyone for the warm welcome, I really appreciate the feedback.

[JaredKaragen]

The big part about 6 80 series cards, is they do put out some heat;  and they are large heatsyncs on them.   Be sure to have good fans to cool the box they are in, or if open air, you should be fine.

The machine that we built out of a rosewell case;  got VERY hot very quick;  would start to thermal throttle.   Needed to upgrade to high CFM fans to combat that.

No need to screw with the fan curves much;  just work on the airflow around the cards and keeping fresh air going to them and you should be fine.

[ps_jb]

Phil,

Are you jumping in RX 5xx madness ?

I'm waiting for results with modded ROMs - but as we know you are strictly against it.

Any plans to try new AMD cards?

[philipma1957]

okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

[ps_jb]

I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Yeah - I forgot about your seasonal sale of cards due to power cost rise.

I'm very intrigued on Nvidia 1080ti cards. There is a possibility to buy MSI GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition for ~$600. Only thing I hate - to find a person who can mod BIOS for me. Usually it is at least 0.2 BTC (which does not make sense for one card only).

[LoneRangir]

I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Yeah - I forgot about your seasonal sale of cards due to power cost rise.

I'm very intrigued on Nvidia 1080ti cards. There is a possibility to buy MSI GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition for ~$600. Only thing I hate - to find a person who can mod BIOS for me. Usually it is at least 0.2 BTC (which does not make sense for one card only).

Where can you find a card for $600? For that price, I may finally jump in

[KaydenC]

Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD

An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think? Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.

[LoneRangir]

Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD

An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think? Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.

For some, though, rig density matters....

[ps_jb]

Where can you find a card for $600? For that price, I may finally jump in

purse.io

[ps_jb]

Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD

An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think?

No - you are wrong. It will be ~95W

Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.

No - you cannot buy 4-5 new rx 470 for $700

[TidusQQ]

okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it. 

[philipma1957]

okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it. 

Yeah on this site we have :

a small hobby miner = a one or two card rig
A medium hobby miner = 3 to 10 cards maybe 2 rigs.
A full size hobby miner = 10 to 20 cards
A large hobby miner = 20 to 50 cards

Must of us are in house so for some of us quiet gear has a big factor.
So' two card three card rigs even four card rigs are easy to manage.

Once you get to fifty cards six card rigs look good.

Even eight card rigs like the panda miner look nice to a guy looking to run  100 cards.

But 13  eight card panda miner will be really loud.

I  know one guy has 28 of them he wrote a review on them.
 

[ps_jb]

Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?

[citronick]

Phil -- I see you have an X11 miner in your NH dashboard...?

[TidusQQ]

okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.  

Yeah on this site we have :

a small hobby miner = a one or two card rig
A medium hobby miner = 3 to 10 cards maybe 2 rigs.
A full size hobby miner = 10 to 20 cards
A large hobby miner = 20 to 50 cards

Must of us are in house so for some of us quiet gear has a big factor.
So' two card three card rigs even four card rigs are easy to manage.

Once you get to fifty cards six card rigs look good.

Even eight card rigs like the panda miner look nice to a guy looking to run  100 cards.

But 13  eight card panda miner will be really loud.

I  know one guy has 28 of them he wrote a review on them.

Yep I noticed

I have been really lucky since at the last moment before doing the order a new seller with the asrock BTC appeared and got his MB, a few hours later he ran again out of stock, lol.

I'm living on a flat, pretty different from living in a house. But I still can leave the rig on a room and begin my test there.

Next week the order arrive, let's see how it goes, by then Ill be another little miner from here

[philipma1957]

Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?

Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.

I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.

It is noisy.

Summer is coming = heat and power increase.

lastly  3 1080ti's = 2100  Sold the panda for 2020

the ti's  do 2100h in zec quietly  the panda did 2300h  with noise

power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall

I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I  used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's


@ citronick  I have a tiny little asic  from isoneguy  it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day  mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day

the whole setup uses 35 watts  that is about 5 cents a day  will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer.  So I net maybe 18 dollars a month

[vapourminer]

Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem )
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.

ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.

main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.

16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.

used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all my rigs, miners or otherwise, now have ssds for os drive.

as for "t" series intel cpus, they are low power variants. saves on power costs. i have a 6400t in my htpc that i will probably move to my basement rig, which currently has a g1840. then ill toss a 6700t in the htpc. worth it if your power costs are a big concern.

[philipma1957]

Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem )
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.

ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.

main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.

16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.

used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all rigs now have ssds.

you have a free hdd use it.
I look for  cheap  deals on used ssds on ebay.
I have been with ebay since 2003  and sometimes  they have great ssd deals
I buy lots of 10 small sized 16gb for smOS  at 5 bucks an ssd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-mSATA-SSD-Chromebooks-Acer-/201888633168?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?


these above are really good for smOS if your mobo can use them  this is why I get newer mobos with z270 chips


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=philipma1957

this is my feedback on ebay  I don't sell much anymore but still buy a lot.


I will be doing a compact 2 card build very soon.

one of these ssds
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?
this psu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262772079663
this cpu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132130890997
this mobo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302265978202
this ram
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-Memory-Black-4GB-Module-DDR4-2133MHz-/302180412969?
2 of these cards
https://www.amazon.com/STRIX-Radeon-Polaris-Graphics-STRIX-RX480-O8G-GAMING/dp/B01J3TZJOA/ref=sr_1_2?


i can expand this mobo to 4 cards using 2 risers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281383006276

I can put it in a case  if a miner gamer wants me to
It will be a  quiet miner  good for an apartment dweller that has a good power deal.