Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[philipma1957]

You do not want to auto switch .  This is not the time for me to explain why  as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

Are you referring to Nemos re:auto switch?
Please elaborate on downsides when you find time/inspiration.
I thing auto-switching scenario on zpool works in general, the issues with graph sometimes not showing balances are not really issues at all because pool does record your hashes under "Balance" heading.
But the big question remains: is it more profitable than mining single coin?
And regarding profitability: MPH charges 0.9% fee vs 3%(?) on nicehash.

have you heard that a stopped clock has perfect time twice a day?

My watch is stopped at 11  so at 11 am and 11 pm it is perfect.

auto switching is always chasing the hot coin = fact

lets say you set switching at 3 minutes min  so eth is what you are on the program constantly checks to see if any coin is better and after 3 minutes time it switches to zec

this means  you were not on zec for 3 minutes of hotness so  10,000 other pc's since since they have the same program you do.  and in 3 minutes that switch cause zec to be less hot then eth.  thus you are always chasing the  hot coin.

this is very simplified since the more people with auto switching the more true it is .  if only 100 people in the world do it then it is less true.

but I carry it forward to the idea that lots of people do it.

next do you switch every 1 min 2 min 3 min 4 min 5 min 6 min 7 min  8 min 9 min 10 min  etc

every switch you make costs $$  how much time to ramp  up  to full speed on a switch.  

so a 10 minute switch cost less in ramp up costs but it is likely to cost in chasing the hot coin costs.

a 1 minute switch cost more in ramp up time but it is cost less in chasing  the hot coin.

So basically I check 4 times a day and manually switch.

I do 90-10  or 80-10-10

so I know what I earned in zec-eth -skein

[ticmmae]

idiot of the day is here

I just built my first rig today and placed the motherboard on top of a conductive stainless shelf.. tried to power on for like an hour wondering what the hell is wrong with my build.. It was powering on and off at one point too... Eventually figured out and got it working but how bad is this? lol System is running fine but I am wondering if I made any damage to the board. This is like the dumbest thing ever smh

Are there any burnt components or places? Power it up and you will see if it's working.

as far as i can see I dont see any burnt mark and system seems to run well. so far..

For best & cheapest result -- just use 2 planks of 2x2 wood as the base.

Alternatively, if your mobo came with a strofoam-like sheet in the static bag - you can use that as base too.

That sheet is allegedly made of fire/heat-resistant material -- i have a 1.5 year old Asrock-H81 mobo that is still on that sheet of foam mining 24x7.

I use a wooden base meant for pots/plants from the $2 shop for all my miners -- its cheap, practical and does the job.

Like xleejohnx mentioned, modern mobos have several safeguards for accidental short-circuits, like protective coating, humidifier etc. too

https://i.imgur.com/G45oXhU.jpg

Currently, it is on top of flattened package box (pretty thin though). Is that a good idea? Kinda feel like a fire hazard. Where can I find this wooden base? I got 0 exp in gardening..

idiot of the day is here

I just built my first rig today and placed the motherboard on top of a conductive stainless shelf.. tried to power on for like an hour wondering what the hell is wrong with my build.. It was powering on and off at one point too... Eventually figured out and got it working but how bad is this? lol System is running fine but I am wondering if I made any damage to the board. This is like the dumbest thing ever smh

Are there any burnt components or places? Power it up and you will see if it's working.

as far as i can see I dont see any burnt mark and system seems to run well. so far..

Almost all computer parts have a protective coating on them to help prevent little accidents like this

thank god. It seems to be fine. Also been working fine for 24+ hours now.

[philipma1957]

Anyone knows how much power risers draw? Also, what should be the max load for PSU I should shoot for? 85%? 90%?

an     atx-psu rated at 1000 watts is good if your k-watt meter reads 750 watts

[citronick]

You do not want to auto switch .  This is not the time for me to explain why  as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

Are you referring to Nemos re:auto switch?
Please elaborate on downsides when you find time/inspiration.
I thing auto-switching scenario on zpool works in general, the issues with graph sometimes not showing balances are not really issues at all because pool does record your hashes under "Balance" heading.
But the big question remains: is it more profitable than mining single coin?
And regarding profitability: MPH charges 0.9% fee vs 3%(?) on nicehash.

have you heard that a stopped clock has perfect time twice a day?

My watch is stopped at 11  so at 11 am and 11 pm it is perfect.

auto switching is always chasing the hot coin = fact

lets say you set switching at 3 minutes min  so eth is what you are on the program constantly checks to see if any coin is better and after 3 minutes time it switches to zec

this means  you were not on zec for 3 minutes of hotness so  10,000 other pc's since since they have the same program you do.  and in 3 minutes that switch cause zec to be less hot then eth.  thus you are always chasing the  hot coin.

this is very simplified since the more people with auto switching the more true it is .  if only 100 people in the world do it then it is less true.

but I carry it forward to the idea that lots of people do it.

next do you switch every 1 min 2 min 3 min 4 min 5 min 6 min 7 min  8 min 9 min 10 min  etc

every switch you make costs $$  how much time to ramp  up  to full speed on a switch.  

so a 10 minute switch cost less in ramp up costs but it is likely to cost in chasing the hot coin costs.

a 1 minute switch cost more in ramp up time but it is cost less in chasing  the hot coin.

So basically I check 4 times a day and manually switch.

I do 90-10  or 80-10-10

so I know what I earned in zec-eth -skein

For quick monitoring and keeping track of hot coins, exp ETH, ZEC and XMR.... in tandem with double checking at whattomine.com, I maintain a Windows machine with NH Windows Miner (v2 Alpha now out) near my work desk.

Basically it mines the most profitable algo and checks profitability table in NH marketplace periodally and in turn you get paid in BTC. This way I can roughly see if renting or mining direct is most profitable.

I dont do skein as I dont mine at zpool anymore.

I focus only in ETH (mining direct or sell to Nicehash) and ZEC (sell to Nicehash).... there are times when selling out your hash at ETH Nicehash marketplace is more profitable than mining direct.

[xleejohnx]

idiot of the day is here

I just built my first rig today and placed the motherboard on top of a conductive stainless shelf.. tried to power on for like an hour wondering what the hell is wrong with my build.. It was powering on and off at one point too... Eventually figured out and got it working but how bad is this? lol System is running fine but I am wondering if I made any damage to the board. This is like the dumbest thing ever smh

Are there any burnt components or places? Power it up and you will see if it's working.

as far as i can see I dont see any burnt mark and system seems to run well. so far..

For best & cheapest result -- just use 2 planks of 2x2 wood as the base.

Alternatively, if your mobo came with a strofoam-like sheet in the static bag - you can use that as base too.

That sheet is allegedly made of fire/heat-resistant material -- i have a 1.5 year old Asrock-H81 mobo that is still on that sheet of foam mining 24x7.

I use a wooden base meant for pots/plants from the $2 shop for all my miners -- its cheap, practical and does the job.

Like xleejohnx mentioned, modern mobos have several safeguards for accidental short-circuits, like protective coating, humidifier etc. too

Currently, it is on top of flattened package box (pretty thin though). Is that a good idea? Kinda feel like a fire hazard. Where can I find this wooden base? I got 0 exp in gardening..

idiot of the day is here

I just built my first rig today and placed the motherboard on top of a conductive stainless shelf.. tried to power on for like an hour wondering what the hell is wrong with my build.. It was powering on and off at one point too... Eventually figured out and got it working but how bad is this? lol System is running fine but I am wondering if I made any damage to the board. This is like the dumbest thing ever smh

Are there any burnt components or places? Power it up and you will see if it's working.

as far as i can see I dont see any burnt mark and system seems to run well. so far..

Almost all computer parts have a protective coating on them to help prevent little accidents like this

thank god. It seems to be fine. Also been working fine for 24+ hours now.

Anything between it the metal is okay.
Also it takes a lot of heat to start a fire you'll be fine

Today's been a bitch.
I'm at work trying to get the wife to see what's wrong with all the rigs
And she's like what's a power supply so it's been aggravating

[citronick]

Today's been a bitch.
I'm at work trying to get the wife to see what's wrong with all the rigs
And she's like what's a power supply so it's been aggravating

Did you install SRR?

I had some funky moments when I switched to v9.5 smOS the other day, no w back to 8.1 and 9.4 and all is calm again.

LOL..... I taught the wifey how to switch off and switch on sequence on the power distribution board in the event of power trips last Christmas... best present ever 

[xleejohnx]

Today's been a bitch.
I'm at work trying to get the wife to see what's wrong with all the rigs
And she's like what's a power supply so it's been aggravating

Did you install SRR?

I had some funky moments when I switched to v9.5 smOS the other day, no w back to 8.1 and 9.4 and all is calm again.

LOL..... I taught the wifey how to switch off and switch on sequence on the power distribution board in the event of power trips last Christmas... best present ever 

I do on four of my rigs but I have the biostar z170 board and it doesn't want to work with the srr

[citronick]

Today's been a bitch.
I'm at work trying to get the wife to see what's wrong with all the rigs
And she's like what's a power supply so it's been aggravating

Did you install SRR?

I had some funky moments when I switched to v9.5 smOS the other day, no w back to 8.1 and 9.4 and all is calm again.

LOL..... I taught the wifey how to switch off and switch on sequence on the power distribution board in the event of power trips last Christmas... best present ever  

I do on four of my rigs but I have the biostar z170 board and it doesn't want to work with the srr

Yup this GT7 board is not easy to get going with SRR - tried many combinations on those on/off pins but no cigar.

Anyways, I am consolidating my Nanos and 480s from these board to another mobo, and will re-purpose them for nvOC Nvidia Linux as 3x GPU mobo - still work in progress; in summary all 1070s will do ETH and all 1080tis will do ZEC.

[citronick]

Phil... I got the GIGABYTE GA-Z270P-D3 to test out and I couldnt get LAN to work

Tried on smOS and nvOS but no LAN connection -- seems device is there but couldn't get IP from DHCP.

Tried swaping cables, ports etc but still no cigar.

I am installing Windows now -- as last resort.

Have you encountered this problem with your board?

Anything BIOS do I need to set?

[xleejohnx]

is there a way to auto restart EWBF miner if miner or GPU has a problem ? like watchdog for claymore ?

Try this:

Code:

:restart
Timeout /t 30
miner --server eu1-zcash.flypool.org --user t1cURHbxrB4xtBNaPH5xLFWE9CvPU5XQcFZ.ew --pass x --port 3333 --fee 0 --eexit 3 --log 1 --pec
ping 127.0.0.1 > nul
goto :restart

Does that go in the miner batch file? Also (newb question) how do I get the IP address?

This starts the miner and also monitors it
The IP address is a standard host only IP address that the program puts out for monitoring


I once had a power shell script that would monitor any mining software  but I can't find it anywhere

took me forever but i found it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0614dRHRS0RYXRnNWtpeWRjbDg/view?usp=sharing

[ticmmae]

Been mining fine for a while then realized my ewbf miner goes to 0sol/s once a while and gets stuck there. It starts working fine if I just restart the miner. I guess the GPU just drops from the miner and it is just stuck there. Does anyone have same issue? Is there any script or option to make the miner restart when GPU drops?

[vg54dett]

Phil... I got the GIGABYTE GA-Z270P-D3 to test out and I couldnt get LAN to work

Tried on smOS and nvOS but no LAN connection -- seems device is there but couldn't get IP from DHCP.

Tried swaping cables, ports etc but still no cigar.

I am installing Windows now -- as last resort.

Have you encountered this problem with your board?

Anything BIOS do I need to set?

Sometimes LANs are faulty on mobos.
I got it dead on a Gigabyte gaming 5, sent back to seller. Lost a bunch of time trying to troobleshoot for nothing.

[xleejohnx]

Been mining fine for a while then realized my ewbf miner goes to 0sol/s once a while and gets stuck there. It starts working fine if I just restart the miner. I guess the GPU just drops from the miner and it is just stuck there. Does anyone have same issue? Is there any script or option to make the miner restart when GPU drops?

right above your post i shared a script that monitor the software for this all you do is set it up for this miner

[Storx]

You do not want to auto switch .  This is not the time for me to explain why  as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

Are you referring to Nemos re:auto switch?
Please elaborate on downsides when you find time/inspiration.
I thing auto-switching scenario on zpool works in general, the issues with graph sometimes not showing balances are not really issues at all because pool does record your hashes under "Balance" heading.
But the big question remains: is it more profitable than mining single coin?
And regarding profitability: MPH charges 0.9% fee vs 3%(?) on nicehash.

Ill explain this for ya some.. i have been experimenting with it and even PM'd Crackfoo about it and this is how Nemo auto miner works.. it is a list of algo's YOU ARE GIVING PERMISSION to be mined based on "profitability". Yes typically this miner is mining the most profitable algo throughout the day, but sometimes this is not the case... so how the profit switching works is it connect to the zpool or mph servers, THEY are the ones that determine what algo to mine for you based on the pass list line with your hashrates....so all the decision on which algo is on the pool side of things, you have no control except to turn off the ones you dont want to mine...

So the pool servers get your list, they compare it and there is a list of priorities from there...

1st: if any algo is on the verge of not having enough mining power to stay profitable to the pool and you have it listed as an option to be mined, it will place you on that algo randomly at times if there is not enough miners directly mining it or the pool will temp disable those coins if they are just not profitable enough for anyone to mine them... but if you do get stuck on those random algo's it will switch you as soon as more miners jump on board...

2nd: this is the most common way it determines to mine something.. if your list states xyz is the best profitable algo, it will determine if there is to many miners mining it based on difficulty level being raised as the pool hashrates increases... once the hashrates for the pool exceed a limit the profitability for the pool decreases some.. it will send you to the 2nd highest profitable algo to mine for a bried moment...this is why you see something that appears "most profitable' based on the mBTC/day earnings numbers, but your not mining it for short periods of time... the server priorities miners wallets with more hashrate vs the little guy...

3rd: From time to time the servers will see a high demand for certain coins because the amount of trading volume happen is asking for help from the mining pools to process the traffic in regards of "proof of work", when these periods occur profit is peaked for a short moment even tho the price of the coin didnt actually change in value.. just to many transactions on the network needing processed, so bonus was given out to catch up the network... this is why you see stable coin profit graphs with random spikes for a few minutes with no change in the actual value under pool status...

All above info was shared to me via a collection of others explaining it to me.. what i do personally is check the profit rates daily, i normally find the same 3 are the top 3 for me rigs.. so i leave it.. but i remove all the rest to prevent the constant switching from happening.. my profits increased as i dropped to only have 3, because many times a block of data was sent to me to process and i would mine maybe 1 or 2 lines of it and get accepted from the servers, but if the entire block of data given is not processed completely from start to finish when you switch you loose all earnings on that incomplete block, when the immature's do confirmation on those blocks you mined, it see's them as incomplete blocks and rejects them in your earnings.. so every time you switch algo's your tossing small earnings out for not completing them

please dont ask me to explain anymore than what i just posted, i am not the original info that this all came from, im just passing on a bunch of info explained to me via various people condensed

[citronick]

Been mining fine for a while then realized my ewbf miner goes to 0sol/s once a while and gets stuck there. It starts working fine if I just restart the miner. I guess the GPU just drops from the miner and it is just stuck there. Does anyone have same issue? Is there any script or option to make the miner restart when GPU drops?

right above your post i shared a script that monitor the software for this all you do is set it up for this miner

wow -- thats some serious coding - need to compile?

I have a bunch of Baikal miners that goes offline when certain Nicehash rentals doesnt complete fully or not terminated cleanly at poolside.
Any ideas how to use these codes with Baikals? Baikal use cgminer.

[ticmmae]

is there a way to auto restart EWBF miner if miner or GPU has a problem ? like watchdog for claymore ?

Try this:

Code:

:restart
Timeout /t 30
miner --server eu1-zcash.flypool.org --user t1cURHbxrB4xtBNaPH5xLFWE9CvPU5XQcFZ.ew --pass x --port 3333 --fee 0 --eexit 3 --log 1 --pec
ping 127.0.0.1 > nul
goto :restart

Does that go in the miner batch file? Also (newb question) how do I get the IP address?

This starts the miner and also monitors it
The IP address is a standard host only IP address that the program puts out for monitoring


I once had a power shell script that would monitor any mining software  but I can't find it anywhere

took me forever but i found it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0614dRHRS0RYXRnNWtpeWRjbDg/view?usp=sharing

Thanks for sharing. With my limited knowledge, I changed things around for my ewbf miner but it keeps restarting when it is working well. I think it is because of this argument "if($global:count -gt 5)". What does that exactly imply?

[Storx]

If anyone wanted to know, i got the 64GB USB drive in from amazon today that i ordered yesterday.. i installed windows 10 on it using the Windows to Go application, plugged it into my mining rig with 4 gtx1080ti's running windows 10 pro w/4800rpm mechanical drive.. The mining works perfectly so far... im getting literally the exact same results as i was running off the mechanical hd....

One con tho... the installation phase of updating the GPU drivers/installing the drivers takes for literally ever it seems.. must have taken 45 minutes to install the latest nvidia drivers... but once i got that done, i opened my google drive and started my mining batch file for this rig and it works flawless with no noticeable lag or reduction in hash rates..

When i installed Windows on the GO, it said it was installing Windows Enterprise edition and that 32GB was the minimal size USB drive needed, but the actual install size on the USB drive is only 22.1GB. I am going to leave this in my mining rig running for the next few days to make sure its stable running it this way.. i did notice a small drop in wattage running the usb drive over the mechanical hd also...

[Storx]

Do any of yall run 8 card rigs? I have been shopping components and after setting up the 4 card gpu and 1 card gpu rig at my parents house in the garage using the old dell workstations and the 5 x1080ti's, im thinking about doing possibly up to 8 card gtx1080ti build, my step father is going to wire up 3 x 120v outlets for me to use in his garage tell i get to the level that im comfortable enough to move into a warehouse.. to save on purchasing multiple motherboards, im thinking of just getting a motherboard with capability of up to 8 cards, then add them as i purchase them to the motherboard,because the main algo's i mine i have them dialed in so far and they pretty much use around 120-130watts per card... so my GPU consumption would be around 1000 watts which seems to be perfectly stable on his power in the garage per outlet..

What do you guys think?

Instead of buying 2 x 4 GPU list of parts, it seems like it would just be cheaper in the end......

I know the build doesnt have any of the T series CPU's, but most of the T series CPU's said they only support up to 5 GPU's from my readings.. unless the info was wrong

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7xnN4C

[philipma1957]

Do any of yall run 8 card rigs? I have been shopping components and after setting up the 4 card gpu and 1 card gpu rig at my parents house in the garage using the old dell workstations and the 5 x1080ti's, im thinking about doing possibly up to 8 card gtx1080ti build, my step father is going to wire up 3 x 120v outlets for me to use in his garage tell i get to the level that im comfortable enough to move into a warehouse.. to save on purchasing multiple motherboards, im thinking of just getting a motherboard with capability of up to 8 cards, then add them as i purchase them to the motherboard,because the main algo's i mine i have them dialed in so far and they pretty much use around 120-130watts per card... so my GPU consumption would be around 1000 watts which seems to be perfectly stable on his power in the garage per outlet..

What do you guys think?

Instead of buying 2 x 4 GPU list of parts, it seems like it would just be cheaper in the end......

I know the build doesnt have any of the T series CPU's, but most of the T series CPU's said they only support up to 5 GPU's from my readings.. unless the info was wrong

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7xnN4C

I am against 6 7 8 card rigs but to each his own

using 1000 psu on an eight card rig is not going to be good for 8 1080ti's  as the watt settings shift from time to time.

but I understand the temptation to run 8 card rigs.  so good luck with them

[Storx]

Do any of yall run 8 card rigs? I have been shopping components and after setting up the 4 card gpu and 1 card gpu rig at my parents house in the garage using the old dell workstations and the 5 x1080ti's, im thinking about doing possibly up to 8 card gtx1080ti build, my step father is going to wire up 3 x 120v outlets for me to use in his garage tell i get to the level that im comfortable enough to move into a warehouse.. to save on purchasing multiple motherboards, im thinking of just getting a motherboard with capability of up to 8 cards, then add them as i purchase them to the motherboard,because the main algo's i mine i have them dialed in so far and they pretty much use around 120-130watts per card... so my GPU consumption would be around 1000 watts which seems to be perfectly stable on his power in the garage per outlet..

What do you guys think?

Instead of buying 2 x 4 GPU list of parts, it seems like it would just be cheaper in the end......

I know the build doesnt have any of the T series CPU's, but most of the T series CPU's said they only support up to 5 GPU's from my readings.. unless the info was wrong

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7xnN4C

I am against 6 7 8 card rigs but to each his own

using 1000 psu on an eight card rig is not going to be good for 8 1080ti's  as the watt settings shift from time to time.

but I understand the temptation to run 8 card rigs.  so good luck with them

I was actually going to run mutliple server PSU's to just be sure the GPU's never overload the PSU... i recently bought 6 server 900/1200watt server psu's for $73, i have not run any equipment off them yet, but they do turn on and fans sound healthy on them.. so going to use them in the future, have 3 breakout boards on the way... I installed the 5 GPU's at my parents house on my 1300watt evga PSU i bought, but going to replace with server psu and use the EVGA on something else..

Why are you against the 6+ rigs, just curious of your reasons as i have no knowledge of having one..