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June 07, 2023, 05:26:54 PM
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It’s now confirmed that Lionel Messi will play in MLS next season. No more chances for Barcelona despite trying to make it happen. Also looking at this Barcelona side, I think Messi not signing for them is the better option. I mean I'm happy as to the progress they have showed, after the challenges of last season (the after-effect of Messi leaving Barcelona and the financial issues).

So resigning Messi will certainly take the team backwards. He might destroy the  rebuild Xavi has begun because they will want to start building the team around him again, building the team on someone who won't stay for long doesn’t  make no sense.
It’s good for both parties, good luck to him.

This is correct but I couldn't find any information on the salary they are going to pay him. Not that it is particularly important, but I would like to know because the offer he turned down for the time being in Saudi Arabia is insanely high and Inter Miami must have offered something that at least made him delay his stay in the Saudi Professional League for some time. Apple and Adidas are also involved somehow and it sounds like an interesting deal overall.

But it came to my mind that I think he has a plan for the next three to four years and probably signed preliminary agreements for future seasons in the SPL. Everything else would be surprising as I don't think he would entirely forego a potential salary of 500 million per season. I guess he has a contract that predefines a certain period of time he is going to spend in the MLS and then moves on to the SPL. If anybody has more information to share on that I would be happy to read it.

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June 07, 2023, 05:56:50 PM
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It’s now confirmed that Lionel Messi will play in MLS next season. No more chances for Barcelona despite trying to make it happen. Also looking at this Barcelona side, I think Messi not signing for them is the better option. I mean I'm happy as to the progress they have showed, after the challenges of last season (the after-effect of Messi leaving Barcelona and the financial issues).

So resigning Messi will certainly take the team backwards. He might destroy the  rebuild Xavi has begun because they will want to start building the team around him again, building the team on someone who won't stay for long doesn’t  make no sense.
It’s good for both parties, good luck to him.

This is correct but I couldn't find any information on the salary they are going to pay him. Not that it is particularly important, but I would like to know because the offer he turned down for the time being in Saudi Arabia is insanely high and Inter Miami must have offered something that at least made him delay his stay in the Saudi Professional League for some time. Apple and Adidas are also involved somehow and it sounds like an interesting deal overall.

But it came to my mind that I think he has a plan for the next three to four years and probably signed preliminary agreements for future seasons in the SPL. Everything else would be surprising as I don't think he would entirely forego a potential salary of 500 million per season. I guess he has a contract that predefines a certain period of time he is going to spend in the MLS and then moves on to the SPL. If anybody has more information to share on that I would be happy to read it.
I am beginning to think they’re lot of benefits with the MLS move compared to the Saudi Arabia contract. It’s been reported, that the deal will also include commercial contracts with Apple and Adidas, both of whom are key MLS partners. So I’m also looking at the big picture. If he goes to Saudi, that’s it for the salary but with MLS, he’s going to have a share of profit from Adidas, from Apple+ and also a new team that he can start upon retirement and more so, he’s going to bring new excitement about football to America.

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June 07, 2023, 06:00:17 PM
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Messi's interest in returning to Barcelona has been expressed verbally by his father, and that is very important. However, I am just learning that he will move to America to play for Inter Maimi1. I believe the Barcelona deal didn't work because there are still some obstacles before the deal is confirmed. Like the Barcelona presenting a viability plan. My thoughts on this is that it's clear: the law of supply and demand. If he wants to be paid more, so the American deal fits better. But will this not be the end of his football career now?

1. https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/lionel-messi-heading-to-mls-argentina-star-confirms-deal-with-inter-miami-barcelona-fail-transfer/blt54557bb7ff50ad64

I am a Barcelona fan as well as a Messi admirer. however, it seems that the agreement between the two parties has ended with no meeting points after the meeting between Jorge Messi and Laporta. As quoted by Goal, Messi's father admitted earlier this week that his son would prefer a return to Barcelona, ​​but their precarious financial situation has ultimately made a final deal impossible.  which in essence, it was Barcelona's financial problems that became an obstacle for Messi to return to Camp Nou.

in the end, Messi has reportedly decided to join Inter Miami. naturally, because Barcelona is experiencing problems as quoted from Goal. after all, Inter Miami's offer made more sense.
by the way, before that many of us thought that Barcelona could not bring Messi home to Camp Nou. that means, Messi is going to Al Hilal. but unexpectedly, in the end Messi chose to go to MLS. well, referring to what you said. apparently, with his contract with Inter Miami, I think Messi will spend his career in MLS.

To be honest, I prefer Barcelona with new faces. I mean, even without Messi Barcelona can achieve a return to its former glory.
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June 07, 2023, 06:03:18 PM
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I don't know how many offers Inter Miami made to Lionel Messi so he has decided to go there?
In the article there is no mention of Messi's salary or maybe after the official statement in the next few hours we will know all about what Messi earns.

While in the article Messi will get a share of Apple TV + and Adidas will also share the profits and that's what is written there, is it possible that it will be bigger than Al Hilal's offer?
In the end we will not see two Legends in the Arab League because Messi has decided to go to America.
I think it is a wise decision that Messi has made to avoid starting up a new rivalry that will make him uncomfortable in the Saudi Arabia league. Moving to a new region gives him an opportunity to be comfortable and have his own audience free from comparison with Ronaldo. With Messi's move to a new league, it will increase the number of people who watch the American League. For the club that has succeeded, it is good business for them, their fan base will increase.

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June 07, 2023, 06:19:01 PM
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It’s now confirmed that Lionel Messi will play in MLS next season. No more chances for Barcelona despite trying to make it happen. Also looking at this Barcelona side, I think Messi not signing for them is the better option. I mean I'm happy as to the progress they have showed, after the challenges of last season (the after-effect of Messi leaving Barcelona and the financial issues).

It was very surprising, I thought that if Messi didn't go to Barcelona, he would choose to go to the Arab league. But he not choose Al-Hilla offer and prefers to join MLS. In fact, if Messi goes to the Arab League, we will get an inte coresting matches, because we can see the rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo again at their no longer young age once again, and I'm sure it will be a exciting duel. Inter Miami is very lucky to be able to bring Messi.
Fabrizio said Barcelona had no guarantees that Messi would return there, maybe that was what made it more difficult for Messi to join Barcelona again, after the meeting between Jorge Messi and Laporta could not change anything and Messi chose another league, namely MLS.

I think it will be closer to Al Hilal because as many media reports say, I would also like to see them duel again but that hope will be dashed because Messi prefers MLS to the Arab League.
The charm of MLS will increase again after Messi's arrival, because there are many Messi fans around the world.

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June 07, 2023, 06:34:29 PM
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After going through many rumors for half a year, Jude Bellingham finally answered that he chose Real Madrid as his new home. An extraordinary transfer fee of around 100 million euros plus add-ons of 30 million euros makes him one of the most expensive young players this season. It seems that Florentino Perez did not hesitate to spend that much for Bellingham from Dortmund and the era of Los Galacticos volume 2 seems to be starting soon since Bellingham's arrival at the Santiago Bernabeu. I think Real Madrid will not sit idly by for all competitions next season and they are also ready to compete with other top European teams.

OMG, that's fucking big!!!

Real madrid has spend 120 millions only for him and there was also a rumor if real madrid will be also spending another 100 million for kane. I never trust the rumor about kane will be going to the real madrid. Is madrid to become another chelsea?
I can imagine if real madrid will have spent 220 millions only for two players. There are so many positions that need to be regenerated again.

Kross and modric are old now. Madrid needs not only bellingham on its mid even though madrid has some good players in mid.
I will be fucking believe if madrid gonna be another chelsea if madrid will agree to buy kane from totenham with 100million as fee.
In my opinion, this fee is still quite reasonable considering Bellingham is still 19 years old, especially since he is a talented player during this season. For Kane I don't think Real Madrid will spend more than 100 million euros because I read earlier in the news that Real Madrid have already made an offer for a transfer fee of 80 million euros, now the decision lies with Spurs and also Harry Kane how they respond.

For the midfield it seems that it is quite complete because there will be Valverde, Bellingham and Camavinga, while Modric, Kroos and Tchouameni will be the back-up. Maybe Ancelotti will buy an additional winger to replace Asensio. Real Madrid is not another Chelsea, as we know Real Madrid has the Los Galacticos project which appeared decades ago by bringing in several star players and for Real Madrid this massive player spending activity is normal. What's more, they buy players for long-term projects, not just for one or two seasons.
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OMG, that's fucking big!!!

Real madrid has spend 120 millions only for him and there was also a rumor if real madrid will be also spending another 100 million for kane. I never trust the rumor about kane will be going to the real madrid. Is madrid to become another chelsea?
I can imagine if real madrid will have spent 220 millions only for two players. There are so many positions that need to be regenerated again.

Kross and modric are old now. Madrid needs not only bellingham on its mid even though madrid has some good players in mid.
I will be fucking believe if madrid gonna be another chelsea if madrid will agree to buy kane from totenham with 100million as fee.

Sometimes we don't understand how Madrid sign new players they must have made the calculations I mean Madrid understand the situation
when compared with age, $100 million is too expensive for old players but maybe they saw something in Harry Kane considered capable of replacing Benzema
remember that Harry Kane is 2nd in premier league top scorers 6 goals behind Haaland which means the ability is still feasible for at least the next 2 seasons.
Even though it's still decent, the price is still quite debatable, I think because regardless of his performance, at his current age, the price for Kane is too high.
But this is Madrid with their money power which is sometimes as you say difficult to understand as long as their wishes can be achieved without obstacles they are ready to spend more in financial matters.

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Here we go!

After going through many rumors for half a year, Jude Bellingham finally answered that he chose Real Madrid as his new home. An extraordinary transfer fee of around 100 million euros plus add-ons of 30 million euros makes him one of the most expensive young players this season. It seems that Florentino Perez did not hesitate to spend that much for Bellingham from Dortmund and the era of Los Galacticos volume 2 seems to be starting soon since Bellingham's arrival at the Santiago Bernabeu. I think Real Madrid will not sit idly by for all competitions next season and they are also ready to compete with other top European teams.

Real Madrid don't chase twice, it gladdens mam to.see that he made the right choice choosing Real Madrid over, Manchester City, Liverpool and Manchester United.
Also, I'm happy to see that he'll work with players like Luka Modric and also Toni Kroos who are serial winners when it comes to the game. This has got to be the best decision he's taken for his career. Oke thing is sure for him, winning either of the La Liga and Champions League in the next five seasons ahead.

I wasn't expecting the switch to Saudi Arabia for Ngolo Kante, but it seems like Mauricio Pochetino already communicated with him already. Bunch of lucks to him as he moves over that league.

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June 07, 2023, 06:43:57 PM
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I want to give my 2 cents too  Smiley
I just saw the news that Messi has signed with Inter Miami (Beckham's team).
As a fan and a supporter, I am sad for having practically ended the chances of seeing Messi play another Champions League with Barcelona, and with a strong team, to have a chance of winning the title, since Barcelona is already good, and will get reinforcements for next season.

In my opinion it doesn't make any sense to go to Saudi Arabia, Messi has already seen what happened with Cristiano Ronaldo and doesn't want to have the same experience.
The USA is a country that Messi already knows well, he has a house there in Miami, he has a lifestyle similar to the one he has in France and had in Spain. Besides the fact that the USA is closer to Argentina.

Besides this, we must also consider the fact that the next World Cup will be in the United States in only 3 years, and the Copa America will also be there in 2024.
Soccer in the country is developing, there is a lot of money to be made, the audience should increase with the arrival of Messi, and the player can still earn a lot with partnerships and sponsorships.
Even more with real chances of Messi playing the Copa America for Argentina, and who knows, maybe even one more cup.

A few days ago I made a post betting that he would go to Barcelona for a season and then go to the USA.
It was supposed to happen, but unfortunately Barcelona didn't get the necessary elements to close the contract with him.


 
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June 07, 2023, 06:47:51 PM
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Here we go!

After going through many rumors for half a year, Jude Bellingham finally answered that he chose Real Madrid as his new home. An extraordinary transfer fee of around 100 million euros plus add-ons of 30 million euros makes him one of the most expensive young players this season. It seems that Florentino Perez did not hesitate to spend that much for Bellingham from Dortmund and the era of Los Galacticos volume 2 seems to be starting soon since Bellingham's arrival at the Santiago Bernabeu. I think Real Madrid will not sit idly by for all competitions next season and they are also ready to compete with other top European teams.
They don't want to be caught off guard, so they dare to set a high enough price in the clause.
The move was actually quite good and also quite brave considering they also realized that prolonging the negotiations could actually make things complicated so that they immediately hit a fantastic price.
Actually I'm also not too surprised by this because of course seeing from some of the previous discussions about Jude it is indeed possible for him to be in Madrid next season.

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June 07, 2023, 06:50:31 PM
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Real Madrid need to fill in the spots left vacant since they will be transferring out their star player who has been a staple of their La Liga squad in Karim Benzema.

There are always rumors about Harry Kane transfers but they never seem to be valid enough in which team him and his agent decides to go. I have always thought him to be loyal to the English Premier league since he is British. And would never leave outside the EPL.

Manchester United are another interested team in Harry Kane these days. As we both said that his priority would be to stay in the English Premier League his first choice would be the Red Devils I guess. The only and important problem here is whether Manchester United are ready to pay a big sum of money to sign a 29-year-old striker now.

Of course it is still Kane we are talking about so I think he is worth it anyway. Because his age shouldn't mislead anyone. He has the capacity to play at his top performance for many more years. He can be like Benzema for Real Madrid for example. Football is an industry from now on so technically a sum around 100 million euros isn't that much enormous for rich teams.

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June 07, 2023, 06:50:35 PM
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OMG, that's fucking big!!!

Real madrid has spend 120 millions only for him and there was also a rumor if real madrid will be also spending another 100 million for kane. I never trust the rumor about kane will be going to the real madrid. Is madrid to become another chelsea?
I can imagine if real madrid will have spent 220 millions only for two players. There are so many positions that need to be regenerated again.

Kross and modric are old now. Madrid needs not only bellingham on its mid even though madrid has some good players in mid.
I will be fucking believe if madrid gonna be another chelsea if madrid will agree to buy kane from totenham with 100million as fee.

Sometimes we don't understand how Madrid sign new players they must have made the calculations I mean Madrid understand the situation
when compared with age, $100 million is too expensive for old players but maybe they saw something in Harry Kane considered capable of replacing Benzema
remember that Harry Kane is 2nd in premier league top scorers 6 goals behind Haaland which means the ability is still feasible for at least the next 2 seasons.

Real Madrid thought that Harry Kane is someone that actually will perform really well as the main striker. After all, he has proved himself in the English Premier League. That it is not going to be a big problem for him to actually performed in the La Liga as well. It is actually a little surprising to see Real Madrid prioritizing experience over youth. Especially in this era where fast paced football is much more trending.

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June 07, 2023, 06:58:18 PM
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After going through many rumors for half a year, Jude Bellingham finally answered that he chose Real Madrid as his new home. An extraordinary transfer fee of around 100 million euros plus add-ons of 30 million euros makes him one of the most expensive young players this season. It seems that Florentino Perez did not hesitate to spend that much for Bellingham from Dortmund and the era of Los Galacticos volume 2 seems to be starting soon since Bellingham's arrival at the Santiago Bernabeu. I think Real Madrid will not sit idly by for all competitions next season and they are also ready to compete with other top European teams.

OMG, that's fucking big!!!

Real madrid has spend 120 millions only for him and there was also a rumor if real madrid will be also spending another 100 million for kane. I never trust the rumor about kane will be going to the real madrid. Is madrid to become another chelsea?
I can imagine if real madrid will have spent 220 millions only for two players. There are so many positions that need to be regenerated again.

Kross and modric are old now. Madrid needs not only bellingham on its mid even though madrid has some good players in mid.
I will be fucking believe if madrid gonna be another chelsea if madrid will agree to buy kane from totenham with 100million as fee.
In my opinion, this fee is still quite reasonable considering Bellingham is still 19 years old, especially since he is a talented player during this season. For Kane I don't think Real Madrid will spend more than 100 million euros because I read earlier in the news that Real Madrid have already made an offer for a transfer fee of 80 million euros, now the decision lies with Spurs and also Harry Kane how they respond.

For the midfield it seems that it is quite complete because there will be Valverde, Bellingham and Camavinga, while Modric, Kroos and Tchouameni will be the back-up. Maybe Ancelotti will buy an additional winger to replace Asensio. Real Madrid is not another Chelsea, as we know Real Madrid has the Los Galacticos project which appeared decades ago by bringing in several star players and for Real Madrid this massive player spending activity is normal. What's more, they buy players for long-term projects, not just for one or two seasons.
The decision to buy Jude Bellinghan was a big step taken by Real Madrid. I think the value of the investment made by Madrid will not be in vain and I think that figure is very normal. For the midfield, Madrid already has a great midfielder and of course he can be relied on for the long term. But right now Los Blancos also have to add several players up front to fill the void. At the moment, only Rodrygo and Vinicius are the only reliable front line for El Real, while for the position left by Benzema, he must immediately find a suitable replacement because it will be very risky if the single striker position is not filled with players with enough flying hours.

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June 07, 2023, 07:15:07 PM
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Definitely shocked to learn about Messi to Miami. Thats actually a pretty decent thing when all things said and done. First of all Miami is one of the most crowded Spanish speaking nations there is, and as we all know Messi speaks Spanish as well, which benefits him on his regular life, not like he goes to grocery store to buy a carton of milk, but it must come in handy. Secondly he is said to be paid based on revenue, he didn't leave for "a lot of money" that arabic teams offered, not because money didn't matter to him, it does, but he rather earn a share of the revenue he himself generates, Arabic teams offered him fix money, if they made more thanks to him, that's their profit, instead now Messi will earn his own revenue back. And lastly, MLS is just a bit more respected, lets face it, SPL is getting more famous due to ronaldo benzema etc etc, but MLS has been the "retirement home" for many, as old as Beckham getting record fee even all the way back. So I guess it should be fine, I don't think it would really change all that much.
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June 07, 2023, 07:16:31 PM
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Jude Bellingham officially Real Madrid and again Dortmund is another young talent,
I feel like Dortmund is making wrong decisions over and over. They lost Haalnd last time while he could be a great player to help Dortmund and now again they lost Bellingham while he could be a key for them to earn more achievements in the next season.



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I am beginning to think they’re lot of benefits with the MLS move compared to the Saudi Arabia contract. It’s been reported, that the deal will also include commercial contracts with Apple and Adidas, both of whom are key MLS partners. So I’m also looking at the big picture. If he goes to Saudi, that’s it for the salary but with MLS, he’s going to have a share of profit from Adidas, from Apple+ and also a new team that he can start upon retirement and more so, he’s going to bring new excitement about football to America.

I am convinced that Messi didn't want to lose out too much on his new contract compared to what he could have earned in the Saudi Professional League. I would also like to understand the specific details about the involvement of Adidas and Apple here, but I am sure there will be more details coming to light with more time passing by. For now he is making a decision also for life quality. He owns a huge luxury apartment in Miami and if someone has the choice between Saudi Arabia and Miami, it is probably not too hard to guess what the decision might be. Especially when he is still winning big time financially and that seems to be the case either way. Also, the news say that the Saudi deal is not cancelled, but put on ice or something.

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June 07, 2023, 07:28:37 PM
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Jude Bellingham officially Real Madrid and again Dortmund is another young talent,
I feel like Dortmund is making wrong decisions over and over. They lost Haalnd last time while he could be a great player to help Dortmund and now again they lost Bellingham while he could be a key for them to earn more achievements in the next season.

But at least with the sale of Jude this is not wrong as they did with Haaland because indeed the price can be said to be quite large compared to Haaland going to Manchester City the previous season and it seems that they are improving his business performance in a better direction Cheesy
It is difficult to expect Dortmund to continue to protect their potential young players because that will make them stutter in financial conditions and with this sale they can still find new seeds for them to project in the future.

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June 07, 2023, 07:35:10 PM
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It seems like that if kante will be going to the al ittihad. he will be playing with benzema on al ittihad which is a very great.

Two legends in the same club. Kante has been winning all of trophies along with benzema. This guys were also from france which is very good for ittihad to have this duet. I hope that more france players will be signed by ittihad soon.

That's a great deal for kante. He can enjoy his life. Kante is such a legend for chelsea. He has been contributing a lot to the club. He has won everything.
Big money again for a European player.
Well now it looks like the price of 100 million/season is becoming more and more commonplace for the star players who will compete in this middle east league.
Last season, in terms of transfers, I was a little surprised by the nominal value of 100 million, which seemed normal because I saw several big clubs in Europe not hesitate to issue and even bid on players at that price, and now the trend from the Middle East has become even crazier because 100 million per season is really - really really crazy.
This is clear that over time it will damage the transfer system algorithm if things like this continue to happen but indeed this is the Middle East where money is easy there. It is not impossible that if conditions like this continue to occur, more players with big names will move there with the strength of the money they have.
The surge in transfer fees, particularly within the Middle East football league, is a fascinating spectacle to witness. Indeed, when figures breach the €100 million per season mark, one can't help but speculate on the implications this trend may have on the global football landscape. Is the sport veering towards an economic tug-of-war?

From one perspective, the Middle Eastern magnates seem intent on sculpting a formidable league, attracting European superstars like bees to nectar with their seemingly limitless financial power. Ronaldo, Benzema, and potentially Kante or Messi in the future — is this not a testament to their strategy? And yet, one can't help but ask: are these gargantuan sums distorting the delicate balance of football's transfer system?

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June 07, 2023, 08:01:24 PM
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Its a very good news for Liverpool fans that Mac Allister just signed the contract. The transfer fee is just 35m euro.
It can’t believes that Liverpool signed a world class player only 35m. Liverpool knows the transfer policy very well.
I say it surly that no other teams can make it happens with this transfer fees. Its a big deal for Liverpool. They will sign two more midfielder’s to competitive the PL tittle and back to the champions League in next season.
I think Mac Allister will prove himself so early with the best team in England.
Brighton is stupid to let Mac Allister join Liverpool for only 35M Euros, they should earn more than that. Brighton is bad to negotiate with other team about their player, they need to learn from Atletico Madrid where Atletico Madrid tend to find a loophole to make money from their players.

Even Liverpool reject Brighton's offer due to too high, I don't see anything wrong for Mac Allister to keep playing in Brighton, just wait until other team interested to spend big amount of money.
I agree with you. I admire that Mac Allister's transfer fee is much lower. Brighton can easily sell him 60-70m euros. But Transfer fee doesn’t always depend on the team. It also depends on the player's priority. What does the player want. Then the deal(problem) is solved through low transfer fees. As we saw last summer, Rafinha and Sadio Mane deal was happened in low transfer fees. The  deal is done by both mutual involvements. And we also know that Liverpool transfer policy. They (FSG) doesn’t buy a player too much transfer fees.So there is no point in regretting. Thank you.
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June 07, 2023, 08:14:17 PM
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Rumors about Mac Allister and Liverpool had been swirling for months now and it's been great they are working quickly to bring in this player now. but indeed for Jude now it's a bit complicated I think.
Their rival is Madrid and when talking about Dortmund's business of course big money is the priority so if they really want to hijack Jude then they have to be prepared with bigger money than Madrid.
Liverpool have zero chance of signing Jude Bellingham this summer, he is all but certain to be heading to Real Madrid and i expect that deal to become official in a few days/weeks from now, Liverpool pulled out from the race to sign Jude Bellingham many weeks ago, they could not afford to pay the money that is involved.

Having said that, Mac Allister is no Jude Bellingham, but he is definitely a decent player who is going to greatly improve this Liverpool team, Jurgen Klopp would also have his eyes on other midfielders, because that is one area i think the club needs proper reinforcements. Liverpool are going to have quite a busy summer in the transfer window in order to be able to compete with City again.
Of course Allister is something worthy, especially in this case, Liverpool really have to bring in young blood like him to make their midfield even better, especially with the current conditions, they are still filled with old machines because even Milner, Henderson and Fabinho can still be relied on. there must be regeneration there.
Talking about Jude, it is now certain that he will be in the Madrid uniform next season.

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