Evolution is a hoax

[BADecker]

That's the point. All the experiments that seem to prove that evolution is real, are cause and effect things. They are done by people, otherwise they wouldn't be experiments. People are the cause, and the effect is whatever it is.

But way beyond that is the fact that all the things that people do are cause by whatever cause them to do them. So, evolution is cause and effect stuff. But since the description of evolution includes stuff that doesn't fall into the class of C&E, evolution is false. It's as simple as that.

You mean cause and effect that was set in motion by zeus right?

There you go, turning science into religion, again. You don't seem to understand the simple difference between science and religion. No wonder you believe in evolution.

More projection. Jesus fuck, evolution isn't a religion you fucking moron. Your silly book is religion. You follow blindly with faith instead of relying upon peer-reviewed empirical evidence. That's the fucking difference.

I just showed you how evolution isn't scientifically scientific. This makes it a religion if you believe in it.

No. You spouted nonsensical bullshit. You've yet to provide any proof at all.

The proof for the C&E things that I say is in the books and all over the Internet.

Poor little bluefirecorp_. Don't be so upset. Get out there and check things out.

How about you do some reading outside of that cult of yours? Maybe a few peer-reviewed scientific journals about scientific breakthroughs made a century ago. Maybe at that point you'll catch up with the rest of us.

Perhaps you should do a little learning of what that reading means, so that you can talk about it intelligently, rather than simply attempting to bash someone else, when you don't really understand what you are talking about.

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[Astargath]

That's the point. All the experiments that seem to prove that evolution is real, are cause and effect things. They are done by people, otherwise they wouldn't be experiments. People are the cause, and the effect is whatever it is.

But way beyond that is the fact that all the things that people do are cause by whatever cause them to do them. So, evolution is cause and effect stuff. But since the description of evolution includes stuff that doesn't fall into the class of C&E, evolution is false. It's as simple as that.

You mean cause and effect that was set in motion by zeus right?

There you go, turning science into religion, again. You don't seem to understand the simple difference between science and religion. No wonder you believe in evolution.

God also falls into C&E, god has a cause therefore it's a hoax.

Cause and effect are effect are the way this universe works. C&E doesn't necessarily apply to God, Who was outside this universe at least when He made it.

Talking religion again, right?

Why would it not affect him just because he is outside the universe? Of course it does, C&E affects God therefore God is a hoax programmed by something else. C&E shows programming. Why religion? I thought God was already scientifically proven, no?

Because if it affected Him from the standpoint that it affects us, then He would have been part of this universe. Are you trying to say that God created Himself right along with this universe? There is no evidence of that in anything that we have found.

Of course you don't see any goddamned evidence, your head is buried in the sand. Also, creation of the earth / universe isn't even related to evolution and only scientifically illiterate people, such as yourself, believe the two to be the same.

You don't have to get all upset like that. You are a truth seeker, right? And since I have shown you the all-pervading cause and effect, so that evolution has been proven to you to be a hoax, you should be overjoyed that the truth has finally been expressed to you.

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

[BADecker]

You're missing pretty much every other physical law in nature. Take for example, light.

Perhaps if you talk about light more heavily, there might be a way in which it applies to the evolution hoax.

 

What the fuck are you on about now? You only consider things that support YOUR opinion and ignore everything else? Oh, that doesn't surprise me from everything you've said so far.

If you even understood what you were talking about, you might express it to enlighten us all.

[Vod]

You can Google "evolution is impossible" to see all the reasons why evolution is impossible.

You can google "evolution pope" to see how someone who knows more about your fairy tale than you believes in evolution.  

You haven't looked into cause and effect, yet, to see that as far as we know, it is all-pervading?

The leader of your cult says evolution happened.

If you say it didn't, you are on your own. 

[Vod]

Cause and effect are effect are the way this universe works. C&E doesn't necessarily apply to God, Who was outside this universe at least when He made it.

I was also not a part of this universe when your fairy tale made it, so C&E doesn't apply to me, or to anyone born in the last 6,000 years. 

Did I huwt youw itty bitty feewings?     

Nice troll answer, but nope.  I am above your fairy tale. 

[BADecker]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

[Vod]

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

[BADecker]

You can Google "evolution is impossible" to see all the reasons why evolution is impossible.

You can google "evolution pope" to see how someone who knows more about your fairy tale than you believes in evolution.  

You haven't looked into cause and effect, yet, to see that as far as we know, it is all-pervading?

The leader of your cult says evolution happened.

If you say it didn't, you are on your own. 

Science shows that evolution didn't happen. This means that everyone in authority who says it happened, is promoting a hoax.

[Vod]

Science shows that evolution didn't happen. This means that everyone in authority who says it happened, is promoting a hoax.

Science proves evolution. 

You are the only person on the planet now who doesn't believe that. 

[Astargath]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

[BADecker]

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 

[Vod]

You are so funny.

I guess when your life is a joke, everything is funny, right BD?

You've lost the argument.  Even the brainwashed fools in your church believe in evolution now.

[BADecker]

Science shows that evolution didn't happen. This means that everyone in authority who says it happened, is promoting a hoax.

Science proves evolution. 

You are the only person on the planet now who doesn't believe that. 

I don't have to believe. If I did, it would take me into that religion. Rather, I know by science that evolution has been scientifically proven to be false.

Since there are some evolution promoters who know this, too, evolution is one of their hoaxes.

[Astargath]

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

[Vod]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing. 

[BADecker]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

[BADecker]

You are so funny.

I guess when your life is a joke, everything is funny, right BD?

You've lost the argument.  Even the brainwashed fools in your church believe in evolution now.

Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

[bluefirecorp_]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

[BADecker]

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

What you don't seem to understand is that mutations cause by lab work are not in the same category as those caused in nature, and neither of them are in the same category of those caused by evolution theory methods. In other words, until we actually find a natural beneficial mutation that is not a simple change programmed into nature, evolution belongs to the realm of science fiction, or hoax, depending on who the perpetrator of it is.

[Astargath]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.