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December 17, 2017, 12:32:47 PM
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I do not believe in the theory of evolution , Because the theory is not clear

The theory of evolution is really clear man, which is the part that you doubt about ?
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December 17, 2017, 12:39:44 PM
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I don't believe in evolution theory because they're not true.. I cannot accept that human evolve from ape.. I'm fearfully and wonderfully made by God himself..yes if human came from them why there's monkey around.
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December 17, 2017, 01:12:30 PM
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He will stop replying soon anyways, he knows he lost. Cool

That is an impossibility - chances of that happening are less than 1 in 10 to the fortieth power.  He lost when he couldn't explain dogs.  Undecided

From his point of view, everything is sand, so sand is what he means when he capitalizes god.


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December 17, 2017, 02:07:37 PM
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When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

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''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

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December 17, 2017, 02:22:31 PM
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When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

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''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.

Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.

Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.

Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

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December 17, 2017, 04:38:01 PM
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my opinion is evolution hoax, because the creature will not change shape, for example chicken will remain its shape and will not change.
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December 17, 2017, 08:49:55 PM
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When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

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''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.
It doesn't say "must." It says "does" implied. A is the cause. B is the effect.

Did you notice your word "exert?"  "Exert" isn't in Newton's 3rd Law. Action and re-action are. In order to stop all action within even a single atom, or within an energy wave or particle, it would have to hit absolute zero. Investigate absolute zero. When you do, you will find that there isn't any evidence of the existence of absolute zero, just like there isn't any evidence of the existence of pure random.



Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.
C&E is not random. Wherein Newton's 3rd Law is there allowance for pure random? Nowhere. C&E, itself is cause for effect, not randomness for effect. Mutations are not random as in pure random. C&E is the opposite of pure random.

But if mutations are random to people because people simply can't follow what is happening in the mutation process, then the evolution theory is, itself, saying that it does not know that evolution is real. How is evolution theory saying this? By using the term "random" when people would not have used that term if they knew the process. Rather, if they knew the process, they would have expressed the process rather than saying "random." This is the way that evolution theory, itself, says that evolution is not known to be real. Why are there so many people who say that evolution and evolution theory are real, when even the evolution theory that they express says that they don't know?



Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.
The fact that everything has a cause, beyond all the billions of causes that are known, is the fact that there is no evidence for absolute zero, as stated above in this post. Research it. The fact that a photon of light travels throughout the universe shows that it is at least slightly above absolute zero.

Thank you for admitting that evolution is not known to be real. How are you admitting it? Because there would have to be randomness for there to be the kind of mutations that evolution requires for it to exist. But if Q&E can't be proven to be all-inclusive, then it can't be proven to NOT be all-inclusive. This means that evolution people don't know that evolution is true.

This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it. And, it takes us back to the few strong evidences for evolution - which are not proofs because they can fit things other than evolution, as well - and the story of evolution which has nothing to back it up other than words without facts behind them.

In other words:
1. Lots of speculation;
2. Lots of C&E;
3. Essentially no evolution.



Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

Now you are finally getting it. There is not an infinity of no cause. God is the Great First Cause. Entropy shows us that there was a beginning... a beginning to the cause and effect nature of the universe.

Thank you, again for helping to show us all that evolution is a great big fat hoax. Evolution is NOT a hoax because people are innocently making a mistake about it. It's a hoax because they absolutely know about the existence of the Great First Cause, but are attempting to bypass "Him" in their knowledge. How are they attempting to bypass Him? By touting evolution as truth, even though they admit that they really don't know that it is truth.

Evolution is a hoax.

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December 17, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
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Evolution is a hoax.

A lot of text, proving once again you evolved from someone smarter than you are.

Thanks brainwashed buddy!  Smiley

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December 17, 2017, 09:14:38 PM
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Evolution is a hoax.

A lot of text, proving once again you evolved from someone smarter than you are.

Thanks brainwashed buddy!  Smiley

Very little text, proving that you still haven't evolved at all!

If evolution existed, you would have evolved into someone who could post more than trivial blabber by now.

Evolution is a hoax.

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December 17, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
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If evolution existed, you would have evolved into someone who could post more than trivial blabber by now.

Love the burden of proof you give to these arguments.

But what else can you do?  You've lost the arguments many times now.

BADecker is a hoax.

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My guess is that the beginner of this thread has a very little understanding of the theory of evolution. It may be not perfect, but to call it a hoax makes no sense.

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When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

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''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.
It doesn't say "must." It says "does" implied. A is the cause. B is the effect.

Did you notice your word "exert?"  "Exert" isn't in Newton's 3rd Law. Action and re-action are. In order to stop all action within even a single atom, or within an energy wave or particle, it would have to hit absolute zero. Investigate absolute zero. When you do, you will find that there isn't any evidence of the existence of absolute zero, just like there isn't any evidence of the existence of pure random.



Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.
C&E is not random. Wherein Newton's 3rd Law is there allowance for pure random? Nowhere. C&E, itself is cause for effect, not randomness for effect. Mutations are not random as in pure random. C&E is the opposite of pure random.

But if mutations are random to people because people simply can't follow what is happening in the mutation process, then the evolution theory is, itself, saying that it does not know that evolution is real. How is evolution theory saying this? By using the term "random" when people would not have used that term if they knew the process. Rather, if they knew the process, they would have expressed the process rather than saying "random." This is the way that evolution theory, itself, says that evolution is not known to be real. Why are there so many people who say that evolution and evolution theory are real, when even the evolution theory that they express says that they don't know?



Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.
The fact that everything has a cause, beyond all the billions of causes that are known, is the fact that there is no evidence for absolute zero, as stated above in this post. Research it. The fact that a photon of light travels throughout the universe shows that it is at least slightly above absolute zero.

Thank you for admitting that evolution is not known to be real. How are you admitting it? Because there would have to be randomness for there to be the kind of mutations that evolution requires for it to exist. But if Q&E can't be proven to be all-inclusive, then it can't be proven to NOT be all-inclusive. This means that evolution people don't know that evolution is true.

This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it. And, it takes us back to the few strong evidences for evolution - which are not proofs because they can fit things other than evolution, as well - and the story of evolution which has nothing to back it up other than words without facts behind them.

In other words:
1. Lots of speculation;
2. Lots of C&E;
3. Essentially no evolution.



Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

Now you are finally getting it. There is not an infinity of no cause. God is the Great First Cause. Entropy shows us that there was a beginning... a beginning to the cause and effect nature of the universe.

Thank you, again for helping to show us all that evolution is a great big fat hoax. Evolution is NOT a hoax because people are innocently making a mistake about it. It's a hoax because they absolutely know about the existence of the Great First Cause, but are attempting to bypass "Him" in their knowledge. How are they attempting to bypass Him? By touting evolution as truth, even though they admit that they really don't know that it is truth.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So now you are saying that not everything has a cause? What is it then lol. ''This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it'' I already told you about radioactive decay several times, do you have alzheimers?
''The fact that everything has a cause'' How is it a fact, there is no scientific evidence for that and you said yourself that not everything has a cause, make up your mind. So now, we can see that evolution is actually real.


You talking about huge problems here and your claims are absolutely insane because no one fucking knows.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.

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When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

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''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.
It doesn't say "must." It says "does" implied. A is the cause. B is the effect.

Did you notice your word "exert?"  "Exert" isn't in Newton's 3rd Law. Action and re-action are. In order to stop all action within even a single atom, or within an energy wave or particle, it would have to hit absolute zero. Investigate absolute zero. When you do, you will find that there isn't any evidence of the existence of absolute zero, just like there isn't any evidence of the existence of pure random.



Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.
C&E is not random. Wherein Newton's 3rd Law is there allowance for pure random? Nowhere. C&E, itself is cause for effect, not randomness for effect. Mutations are not random as in pure random. C&E is the opposite of pure random.

But if mutations are random to people because people simply can't follow what is happening in the mutation process, then the evolution theory is, itself, saying that it does not know that evolution is real. How is evolution theory saying this? By using the term "random" when people would not have used that term if they knew the process. Rather, if they knew the process, they would have expressed the process rather than saying "random." This is the way that evolution theory, itself, says that evolution is not known to be real. Why are there so many people who say that evolution and evolution theory are real, when even the evolution theory that they express says that they don't know?



Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.
The fact that everything has a cause, beyond all the billions of causes that are known, is the fact that there is no evidence for absolute zero, as stated above in this post. Research it. The fact that a photon of light travels throughout the universe shows that it is at least slightly above absolute zero.

Thank you for admitting that evolution is not known to be real. How are you admitting it? Because there would have to be randomness for there to be the kind of mutations that evolution requires for it to exist. But if Q&E can't be proven to be all-inclusive, then it can't be proven to NOT be all-inclusive. This means that evolution people don't know that evolution is true.

This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it. And, it takes us back to the few strong evidences for evolution - which are not proofs because they can fit things other than evolution, as well - and the story of evolution which has nothing to back it up other than words without facts behind them.

In other words:
1. Lots of speculation;
2. Lots of C&E;
3. Essentially no evolution.



Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

Now you are finally getting it. There is not an infinity of no cause. God is the Great First Cause. Entropy shows us that there was a beginning... a beginning to the cause and effect nature of the universe.

Thank you, again for helping to show us all that evolution is a great big fat hoax. Evolution is NOT a hoax because people are innocently making a mistake about it. It's a hoax because they absolutely know about the existence of the Great First Cause, but are attempting to bypass "Him" in their knowledge. How are they attempting to bypass Him? By touting evolution as truth, even though they admit that they really don't know that it is truth.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So now you are saying that not everything has a cause? What is it then lol. ''This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it'' I already told you about radioactive decay several times, do you have alzheimers?
''The fact that everything has a cause'' How is it a fact, there is no scientific evidence for that and you said yourself that not everything has a cause, make up your mind. So now, we can see that evolution is actually real.


You talking about huge problems here and your claims are absolutely insane because no one fucking knows.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.

There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause. But there is proof that radioactive decay can be an effect of a causal group.

The only thing against C&E not being an all-inclusive fact is that not everything has been examined. But in scientific talk, enough has been examined, and enough understanding about C&E is available, that science considers C&E an all-inclusive fact.

Since evolution doesn't have anything in favor of it in reality, and since the few things that seem to be in favor of it can be applied to other things better, and since there are at least several major ways in which evolution is impossible, evolution is not real.

Thank you for your, above highlighted, statement. It shows that even you understand that evolution is not known to be real, even though you said evolution is real in the highlighted area above it. How readily you contradict yourself, almost in the same sentence! But, that's the way of political science.

Just because you are unwilling to understand how things work, doesn't mean there is no free will.

Keep on yacking. All you have is political science... which is yacking and blabbing and nothing more.

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December 17, 2017, 11:56:58 PM
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When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven, even in scientific realms, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be something else. I expect that there are a few people living in the heart of Chicago, who go get a bucket of water, and fish out of that bucket when there is nothing in it but water. In the same way, there are always going to be scientists who will be trying to find something other than cause and effect for things.

Cool

''When you find enough C&E things, and nothing else, then C&E has been proven'' No it hasn't. What is ''enough''? I already told you scientists have found things that have no cause or at least they cannot be proven to have a cause, C&E IS PROVEN, WHAT'S NOT PROVEN IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE LIKE YOU CLAIM. There is no scientific law or theory claiming that everything must have a cause, that's something you invented and something you cannot prove. You keep saying the same shit which is not going to prove your point.

EVEN IF I AGREE and everything has a cause, what does that mean? Everything has a cause so we just go back forever? Has everything existed since forever then?

Admit it badecker, you lost.

LOL! I lost.  Cry  But not about cause and effect.  Cheesy

What did I lose at? I lost in a number of ways, in explaining to you. You won at remaining in ignorance in the face of knowledge.

Cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. Evolution is destroyed by C&E at least regarding the way evolution theory says mutations come about. C&E is opposed to evolution theory because C&E allows for no pure random, while evolution mutations must have pure random to fit evolution theory.

You may have won in political science - constantly talking around reality - but I have won in the pure and hard sciences. And, I have given you such a run for your money regarding political science, that your PS winning is barely winning at all... except to show your ignorance.

You and evolution scientists may not like C&E, but take it up with Newton and those other scientists who understand that C&E is all-pervading. At this stage of the game, regarding C&E, you lose.

Cool

Newton's third law: If an object A exerts a force on object B, then object B must exert a force of equal magnitude and opposite direction back on object A. Where does it say that everything must have a cause exactly? I would like you to tell us.
It doesn't say "must." It says "does" implied. A is the cause. B is the effect.

Did you notice your word "exert?"  "Exert" isn't in Newton's 3rd Law. Action and re-action are. In order to stop all action within even a single atom, or within an energy wave or particle, it would have to hit absolute zero. Investigate absolute zero. When you do, you will find that there isn't any evidence of the existence of absolute zero, just like there isn't any evidence of the existence of pure random.



Mutations are ''random'' in the way that we can't figure out the cause of them because we don't know the variables but deep down somethings might be totally random so no, cause and effect does not destroy evolution.
'' C&E allows for no pure random'' Lie, newtons 3rd law never says everything must have a cause. Human behavior could be truly random, we don't know and we can't prove it either way.
C&E is not random. Wherein Newton's 3rd Law is there allowance for pure random? Nowhere. C&E, itself is cause for effect, not randomness for effect. Mutations are not random as in pure random. C&E is the opposite of pure random.

But if mutations are random to people because people simply can't follow what is happening in the mutation process, then the evolution theory is, itself, saying that it does not know that evolution is real. How is evolution theory saying this? By using the term "random" when people would not have used that term if they knew the process. Rather, if they knew the process, they would have expressed the process rather than saying "random." This is the way that evolution theory, itself, says that evolution is not known to be real. Why are there so many people who say that evolution and evolution theory are real, when even the evolution theory that they express says that they don't know?



Cause and effect exists but it doesn't mean that everything has a cause and you can't prove it. I can't prove that something doesn't have a cause to an 100% degree because it might have a cause that we don't know of but you can't prove that everything has a cause either. We are stuck in the same place.
The fact that everything has a cause, beyond all the billions of causes that are known, is the fact that there is no evidence for absolute zero, as stated above in this post. Research it. The fact that a photon of light travels throughout the universe shows that it is at least slightly above absolute zero.

Thank you for admitting that evolution is not known to be real. How are you admitting it? Because there would have to be randomness for there to be the kind of mutations that evolution requires for it to exist. But if Q&E can't be proven to be all-inclusive, then it can't be proven to NOT be all-inclusive. This means that evolution people don't know that evolution is true.

This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it. And, it takes us back to the few strong evidences for evolution - which are not proofs because they can fit things other than evolution, as well - and the story of evolution which has nothing to back it up other than words without facts behind them.

In other words:
1. Lots of speculation;
2. Lots of C&E;
3. Essentially no evolution.



Something with no cause makes no sense to us just like everything with infinite causes makes no sense, the truth is that we don't know and you don't know either and you can't prove that everything has a cause so why are you still saying the same thing over and over again. Either prove that everything has a cause or admit that you don't know.

Now you are finally getting it. There is not an infinity of no cause. God is the Great First Cause. Entropy shows us that there was a beginning... a beginning to the cause and effect nature of the universe.

Thank you, again for helping to show us all that evolution is a great big fat hoax. Evolution is NOT a hoax because people are innocently making a mistake about it. It's a hoax because they absolutely know about the existence of the Great First Cause, but are attempting to bypass "Him" in their knowledge. How are they attempting to bypass Him? By touting evolution as truth, even though they admit that they really don't know that it is truth.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

So now you are saying that not everything has a cause? What is it then lol. ''This takes us back to the billions of C&E proofs without any proof against it'' I already told you about radioactive decay several times, do you have alzheimers?
''The fact that everything has a cause'' How is it a fact, there is no scientific evidence for that and you said yourself that not everything has a cause, make up your mind. So now, we can see that evolution is actually real.


You talking about huge problems here and your claims are absolutely insane because no one fucking knows.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.

There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause. But there is proof that radioactive decay can be an effect of a causal group.

The only thing against C&E not being an all-inclusive fact is that not everything has been examined. But in scientific talk, enough has been examined, and enough understanding about C&E is available, that science considers C&E an all-inclusive fact.

Since evolution doesn't have anything in favor of it in reality, and since the few things that seem to be in favor of it can be applied to other things better, and since there are at least several major ways in which evolution is impossible, evolution is not real.

Thank you for your, above highlighted, statement. It shows that even you understand that evolution is not known to be real, even though you said evolution is real in the highlighted area above it. How readily you contradict yourself, almost in the same sentence! But, that's the way of political science.

Just because you are unwilling to understand how things work, doesn't mean there is no free will.

Keep on yacking. All you have is political science... which is yacking and blabbing and nothing more.

Cool

You said that not everything has a cause a few posts ago, what is it? Does everything have a cause or not, quit contradicting yourself.

Science has never answered the question of whether the universe is deterministic or not, stop fucking lying or show me the evidence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.

''There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause.'' There isn't any proof that it is an effect of a cause either.

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December 18, 2017, 12:30:35 AM
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You said that not everything has a cause a few posts ago, what is it? Does everything have a cause or not, quit contradicting yourself.
When you read it in context, there is no contradiction.



Science has never answered the question of whether the universe is deterministic or not, stop fucking lying or show me the evidence.
You haven't explained what determinism has to do with the things that I have said.


Quantum this and that is theory. Theory has not been proven to be fact, because opposing theory can be proposed.



https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5mfsbf/eli5_does_true_randomness_exist/

Furthermore your claims make no sense with the rest of your beliefs if the human behavior is deterministic then there is no free will.
Again, God is the one Who maintains the free will of mankind.



''There isn't any proof that radioactive decay is not an effect of a cause.'' There isn't any proof that it is an effect of a cause either.

The proof for radioactive decay is that there is no radioactive decay for an element that doesn't exist. Then, some scientists and engineers build equipment that makes a radioactive element - using C&E, by the way - that didn't exist a moment ago. Then the new element decays because of its radioactivity, and is gone, often in less than a second. Scientists are the cause. The new element and its radioactivity are the effect.


Furthermore. If you don't think that C&E is all-inclusive in the face of all the billions of operations that exist that show it to exist, why would you even begin to think that evolution exists when scientists have barely produced anything that they can feel even reasonably sure that it is evolution? Since you doubt that overwhelmingly massive evidence of C&E, why would you even focus on the one or two things that might show evolution as a possibility, to say nothing about acknowledging them, and then to state for a fact that they exist?

You are a bit backwards in this.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you are helping to prove it.

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December 18, 2017, 05:16:02 AM
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Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you are helping to prove it.

Imagine if you could prove evolution was a hoax.  You would be generally considered the next Einstein.

Is this you BD?  Is there a giant ticker tape parade in your head as millions chant your name?   Wink

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December 18, 2017, 05:21:29 AM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

we are cousins and our ancestors separate ways when we humans fully addopt to the environment and develop skills that other apes dont get. the creator may do some identical touch on human and apes because we share the same creator

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December 18, 2017, 09:26:24 AM
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Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you are helping to prove it.

Imagine if you could prove evolution was a hoax.  You would be generally considered the next Einstein.

Is this you BD?  Is there a giant ticker tape parade in your head as millions chant your name?   Wink

What about you? Do you have a political science ticker tape in your future? Obviously, you don't qualify to have any other kind of science ticker tape parade.

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December 18, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
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I agree evolution is a mere trick is still a theory and research that there is no scientific evidence of one creature created for one species no homosapian turned into a monkey and then a human
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December 18, 2017, 10:24:07 AM
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I agree evolution is a mere trick is still a theory and research that there is no scientific evidence of one creature created for one species no homosapian turned into a monkey and then a human

Seems to me that people who think that monkeys could turn into people, are simply making monkeys of themselves.

In this one way, alone, evolution is proven not to exist. After all, it is monkeys who think that evolution exists... not people.

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