Evolution is a hoax

[Astargath]

So what? Are you saying a lion and a tiger are the same species?

Yes. Only specialised and adapted to different type of enviroment I would say more - they are all cats or felines or how ever you want to call all of those organism that can produce offsprings. That is what the Bible says as well. I know you can say OMG he is talking about the Bible again. Im just saying that it is in line with reality that the organisms that can bring forth from themselves life - are the same kind.

And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here. It is very much in line with reality.

Ofcourse it is not the reason I believe creationism. I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true. Ofcourse you can say you do not have to believe in science. Actually yes you do have to believe they play fair.

I will talk about evolution soon but let me just point out some funny comments you just made.

''And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here.'' You have no reason to believe he is right either, in fact you have no reason to believe god exists in the first place.

''I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true.'' What can you even say about this, not much really. I'm just laughing a bit.

[Przemax]

So what? Are you saying a lion and a tiger are the same species?

Yes. Only specialised and adapted to different type of enviroment I would say more - they are all cats or felines or how ever you want to call all of those organism that can produce offsprings. That is what the Bible says as well. I know you can say OMG he is talking about the Bible again. Im just saying that it is in line with reality that the organisms that can bring forth from themselves life - are the same kind.

And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here. It is very much in line with reality.

Ofcourse it is not the reason I believe creationism. I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true. Ofcourse you can say you do not have to believe in science. Actually yes you do have to believe they play fair.

I will talk about evolution soon but let me just point out some funny comments you just made.

''And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here.'' You have no reason to believe he is right either, in fact you have no reason to believe god exists in the first place.

''I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true.'' What can you even say about this, not much really. I'm just laughing a bit.

If reality would prove me otherwise I would have revise my beliefs. True.

Yeah ok. Lets just assume a John Doe had said - you will find an envelop there and there and you would find a money there. When you would - You could assume that John Doe could exist because his words were true.

He ofcourse doesn't have to exist - but someone actually did. So ok. God might not exist. But for a God imposter who may wrote what it is assumed to be God inspired - it makes a very good impression that the person that wrote it had amazing insight into everything and that person wanted to share that with us.

Call him what ever you like. It could be just Moses... but it is highly unlikely that is was just Moses. Moses and mister x - that you yourself find laughable - Im not sure why.

[Astargath]

So what? Are you saying a lion and a tiger are the same species?

Yes. Only specialised and adapted to different type of enviroment I would say more - they are all cats or felines or how ever you want to call all of those organism that can produce offsprings. That is what the Bible says as well. I know you can say OMG he is talking about the Bible again. Im just saying that it is in line with reality that the organisms that can bring forth from themselves life - are the same kind.

And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here. It is very much in line with reality.

Ofcourse it is not the reason I believe creationism. I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true. Ofcourse you can say you do not have to believe in science. Actually yes you do have to believe they play fair.

I will talk about evolution soon but let me just point out some funny comments you just made.

''And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here.'' You have no reason to believe he is right either, in fact you have no reason to believe god exists in the first place.

''I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true.'' What can you even say about this, not much really. I'm just laughing a bit.

If reality would prove me otherwise I would have revise my beliefs. True.

Yeah ok. Lets just assume a John Doe had said - you will find an envelop there and there and you would find a money there. When you would - You could assume that John Doe could exist because his words were true.

He ofcourse doesn't have to exist - but someone actually did. So ok. God might not exist. But for a God imposter who may wrote what it is assumed to be God inspired - it makes a very good impression that the person that wrote it had amazing insight into everything and that person wanted to share that with us.

Call him what ever you like. It could be just Moses... but it is highly unlikely that is was just Moses. Moses and mister x - that you yourself find laughable - Im not sure why.

The bible has an extreme amount of scientific errors, I wouldn't call that god inspired.

[o_e_l_e_o]

are the same kind.

It is worth noting the word "kind" is a completely nonsense term, made up by creationists, that has no bearing whatsoever on proper scientific taxonomy. Not surprising that you would use it, since we know you don't understand science at all.

[Przemax]

So what? Are you saying a lion and a tiger are the same species?

Yes. Only specialised and adapted to different type of enviroment I would say more - they are all cats or felines or how ever you want to call all of those organism that can produce offsprings. That is what the Bible says as well. I know you can say OMG he is talking about the Bible again. Im just saying that it is in line with reality that the organisms that can bring forth from themselves life - are the same kind.

And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here. It is very much in line with reality.

Ofcourse it is not the reason I believe creationism. I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true. Ofcourse you can say you do not have to believe in science. Actually yes you do have to believe they play fair.

I will talk about evolution soon but let me just point out some funny comments you just made.

''And as long as reality is proven otherwise I have no reason to believe God has lied here.'' You have no reason to believe he is right either, in fact you have no reason to believe god exists in the first place.

''I believe it is true because it is a reality. Just because God have said so just make it super awesome that its true.'' What can you even say about this, not much really. I'm just laughing a bit.

If reality would prove me otherwise I would have revise my beliefs. True.

Yeah ok. Lets just assume a John Doe had said - you will find an envelop there and there and you would find a money there. When you would - You could assume that John Doe could exist because his words were true.

He ofcourse doesn't have to exist - but someone actually did. So ok. God might not exist. But for a God imposter who may wrote what it is assumed to be God inspired - it makes a very good impression that the person that wrote it had amazing insight into everything and that person wanted to share that with us.

Call him what ever you like. It could be just Moses... but it is highly unlikely that is was just Moses. Moses and mister x - that you yourself find laughable - Im not sure why.

The bible has an extreme amount of scientific errors, I wouldn't call that god inspired.

Like?

It is worth noting the word "kind" is a completely nonsense term, made up by creationists, that has no bearing whatsoever on proper scientific taxonomy. Not surprising that you would use it, since we know you don't understand science at all.

Well Im sorry I am not peer-reviewed. Go read the peer-review please.

[BADecker]

nobody has ever seen something evolving that they can prove is evolution and not something else

Apart from Shaposhnikov over 70 years ago, which was where I started this discussion, and the countless other examples I have provided you with.


I'm done with this argument. I have provided mountains and mountains of evidence which you have both failed to counter even once. The very fact you use words like "accident" and "random" shows that you have a deep, deep ignorance about science and evolution, and zero willingness to learn. You can play your word games and make stupid points about World of Warcraft and students as long as you like, but until I see a single piece of evidence that evolution is a hoax, I'll consider this argument won.

Exactly. Your ignorance about evolution, and your unwillingness to learn.

The failure of evolution is in two parts:
1. All the foundational evolution scientists always say in their basic, foundational evolution papers, wording to the effect of: "if, maybe, it looks like, possibly, probably," etc.  This means that they do not know, and that they do not have proof;
2. All the scientists and people who build on this foundation of: "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc., are saying that they don't know and don't have proof, right along with the foundational papers they build on..

That's all there is for evolution. There is "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc., and those who base their stuff on the "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc.

There is no proof that says "definitely," that is not based on "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc.

Forget it.

Evolution is a hoax.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Well Im sorry I am not peer-reviewed. Go read the peer-review please.

Well, I'm sorry I'm telling lies instead of facts. - This is how you sound.

[BADecker]

But you haven't provided even one concretely factual piece of evidence for evolution. Not even one! Sll evolution evidence fits something else (like adaptation) better than it fits evolution.

So unlike Przemax, who tries and spectacularly fails to discredit the evidence, you choose just to completely ignore it even exists. I suppose that's almost a smarter way of approaching it, since you know your factless arguments will get utterly destroyed if you engage with the evidence.

Actually, it sounds like you are ignoring that evolution doesn't exist.

Evolution theory exists. All kinds of (mostly) contradictory ideas exist about evolution. But since there isn't any proof for evolution - nobody has ever seen something evolving that they can prove is evolution and not something else - everything that you hear or read about evolution is hearsay or the like.

Evolution is a hoax... or do you have some proof that you can show us?

Evolution is proven, do you have any evidence suggesting is a hoax?

Why, of course. Evolution is a hoax, because it has not been proven. My previous post explains the way in which it has not been proven.

[o_e_l_e_o]

The failure of evolution is in two parts:
1. All the foundational evolution scientists always say in their basic, foundational evolution papers, wording to the effect of: "if, maybe, it looks like, possibly, probably," etc.  This means that they do not know, and that they do not have proof;
2. All the scientists and people who build on this foundation of: "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc., are saying that they don't know and don't have proof, right along with the foundational papers they build on..

That's all there is for evolution. There is "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc., and those who base their stuff on the "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc.

There is no proof that says "definitely," that is not based on "if, maybe, it looks like, possibley, probably," etc.

Forget it.

Evolution is a hoax.

THAT'S your argument? That scientific papers don't use the word definitely? I would probably believe creationism as well if I was this uneducated. You are even more clueless than the other guy. If the two of you could go back to elementary science classes for a couple of years, then come back and message me, that would be great.

[Astargath]

But you haven't provided even one concretely factual piece of evidence for evolution. Not even one! Sll evolution evidence fits something else (like adaptation) better than it fits evolution.

So unlike Przemax, who tries and spectacularly fails to discredit the evidence, you choose just to completely ignore it even exists. I suppose that's almost a smarter way of approaching it, since you know your factless arguments will get utterly destroyed if you engage with the evidence.

Actually, it sounds like you are ignoring that evolution doesn't exist.

Evolution theory exists. All kinds of (mostly) contradictory ideas exist about evolution. But since there isn't any proof for evolution - nobody has ever seen something evolving that they can prove is evolution and not something else - everything that you hear or read about evolution is hearsay or the like.

Evolution is a hoax... or do you have some proof that you can show us?

Evolution is proven, do you have any evidence suggesting is a hoax?

Why, of course. Evolution is a hoax, because it has not been proven. My previous post explains the way in which it has not been proven.

No one has seen god creating the world therefore he doesn't exist.

[Przemax]

Well Im sorry I am not peer-reviewed. Go read the peer-review please.

Well, I'm sorry I'm telling lies instead of facts. - This is how you sound.

Im sorry I am just a moron to you. Too bad for you. You were beaten intellectually a lot of times by a moron.

[BADecker]

Why not use google instead of saying the stupidest shit ?

You never heard of fake news? It's all the rage right now. Well, fake news goes a lot deeper than what is all the rage right now. Your assignment, should you decide to accept it, is to find out what is fake... evolution news for the last couple hundred years? Or the Bible for the las3,500 years?

[BADecker]

But you haven't provided even one concretely factual piece of evidence for evolution. Not even one! Sll evolution evidence fits something else (like adaptation) better than it fits evolution.

So unlike Przemax, who tries and spectacularly fails to discredit the evidence, you choose just to completely ignore it even exists. I suppose that's almost a smarter way of approaching it, since you know your factless arguments will get utterly destroyed if you engage with the evidence.

Actually, it sounds like you are ignoring that evolution doesn't exist.

Evolution theory exists. All kinds of (mostly) contradictory ideas exist about evolution. But since there isn't any proof for evolution - nobody has ever seen something evolving that they can prove is evolution and not something else - everything that you hear or read about evolution is hearsay or the like.

Evolution is a hoax... or do you have some proof that you can show us?

Evolution is proven, do you have any evidence suggesting is a hoax?

Why, of course. Evolution is a hoax, because it has not been proven. My previous post explains the way in which it has not been proven.

No one has seen god creating the world therefore he doesn't exist.

Now you sound like a flat earth person. Nobody has seen God creating the universe, so the universe is only flat earth and a dome and some lights dangling on wires, right?

You are acting as stupid as the FE people you denounce.

[BADecker]

Sigh. I thought, for a second, we were going to get an original argument or an actual piece of evidence. Instead you have gone back to copy-pasting from some nonsensical, pseudo-scientific creationist website.

That's the problem with you evolutionists. There are tons of arguments against evolution, but when they show you that evolution is a hoax, you want a new argument rather than accepting the obvious hoax argument.

[BADecker]

Every monkey who was walking around is human already. And evolution is also already happen to our species. This question is very strange and obvious to answer.

And every human who walks around believing in evolution, is trying to become a monkey.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Every monkey who was walking around is human already. And evolution is also already happen to our species. This question is very strange and obvious to answer.

And every human who walks around believing in evolution, is trying to become a monkey.

I'm now convinced this guy is simply trolling. There is no way someone is this stupid. All his comments become pretty funny when you consider the other creationists are lapping up his trolling.

[BADecker]

Saying that they also found that the bluish and reddish cichlids interbreed is saying nothing, that's not an argument against my evidence.

There is no point trying. He does not understand and refuses to learn.

Yes. People are religious beings. So, check out which religion matches hard science... evolution or non-evolution. When you get into it in detail, you will find that the only science that matches evolution is political science... where lying, and "talk, talk, talk" is science.

[BADecker]

Every monkey who was walking around is human already. And evolution is also already happen to our species. This question is very strange and obvious to answer.

And every human who walks around believing in evolution, is trying to become a monkey.

I'm now convinced this guy is simply trolling. There is no way someone is this stupid. All his comments become pretty funny when you consider the other creationists are lapping up his trolling.

It's nice to see someone who is convicted about his religion, even if it is a false religion. You, in other words.

[Astargath]

Every monkey who was walking around is human already. And evolution is also already happen to our species. This question is very strange and obvious to answer.

And every human who walks around believing in evolution, is trying to become a monkey.

I'm now convinced this guy is simply trolling. There is no way someone is this stupid. All his comments become pretty funny when you consider the other creationists are lapping up his trolling.

You don't know badecker yet? I destroyed every single one of his arguments for the existence of god and he keeps coming back to post the same shit after a few months, over and over again, humans...

[BADecker]

Well Im sorry I am not peer-reviewed. Go read the peer-review please.

Well, I'm sorry I'm telling lies instead of facts. - This is how you sound.

But if you are telling evolution as fact, you are telling lies rather than fact. The problem isn't making a lie by mistake. The problem is voluntarily continuing in it, as you are.