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people should come on the linux side seems to have more support now and faster performance yeah, i like linux and i should be on it... but i love to play, and i hate to use some emulator (wine) to play, cause the lower performance... Lots of progress made - some games actually run faster. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
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May 10, 2013, 12:45:19 PM |
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I got 24 YAC for 8hr mining on arround 700khs. So no solomining 4 me. And I see on pool some ppl have realy big hashrates, makes me wonder is it possable someone actually has so much power without being a botnet? Does it mean diff is rapidly increasing cos of 10 miners in the world, and 10000 other have 10% of coins? Maybe I am making mistake, but it makes me wonder if I can make 400yac with 24PC mining pool, and someone is making 40000YAC mining on that same pool, do I have chance to ever make some money? So sorry I have to insist on money, but I do not mine for fun. I did folding and seti for fun, here I am helping few ppl earn 5000$ per day. Or maybe I am wrong?
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Discuss Yacoin on AltcoinForumsAltcoinForums.org is the Bitcointalk of alt coins. Discuss and trade Yacoin in a better and more organized way: http://www.altcoinforum.org/index.php#c4
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May 10, 2013, 12:53:56 PM |
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is it possable someone actually has so much power without being a botnet?
Yes, some people rent servers as their business, and it's pretty normal that they would have 400x the hashing power of a home desktop. If cryptocoins were mined with pickaxes a pickaxe retailer would have a lot more than I do.
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May 10, 2013, 12:57:42 PM |
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I got 24 YAC for 8hr mining on arround 700khs. So no solomining 4 me. And I see on pool some ppl have realy big hashrates, makes me wonder is it possable someone actually has so much power without being a botnet? Does it mean diff is rapidly increasing cos of 10 miners in the world, and 10000 other have 10% of coins? Maybe I am making mistake, but it makes me wonder if I can make 400yac with 24PC mining pool, and someone is making 40000YAC mining on that same pool, do I have chance to ever make some money? So sorry I have to insist on money, but I do not mine for fun. I did folding and seti for fun, here I am helping few ppl earn 5000$ per day. Or maybe I am wrong?
All those people who have very high hash rates have have access to servers with hundreds of cores. Of course they are going to make way more than you.
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May 10, 2013, 01:40:12 PM |
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May 10, 2013, 01:40:39 PM |
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The early days of Litecoin followed a very similar path as YACoin is doing right now. A CPU only coin is a very good idea because it makes mining for most of the world with a computer a no brainer. The designer's intentions are genuine but we also have to take into account the realities of the world we live in. Early Litecoin adoption by botnet operators made them all rich. And truth be told, they are once again glad a CPU only coin is back in play.
Next up for YAC will be a discussion of how decentralized the network is when large groups own the majority of hashing power. Resistance to 51% attacks is limited if non existent. Will the community step up? Do the majority of new "crypto-bugs" even know what any of this means?
The LTC Community fought at least 2 such attacks and won (1st by Luke-Jr & 2nd by BCX) No other coin has survived even one (including Bitcoin - there have been worries with pools getting too big, but no planned attacks to take the currency down). Litecoin also owes a little bit of gratitude to Solid:facepalm:Coin for building the Reaper protocol. While their intention was yet again to take down Litecoin by turning it into a GPU coin, they actually strengthened the base and helped to make it a stronger DE-centralized network. Botnets using CPU power lost their strong advantage over miners armed with GPUs.
While we all love the idea of a CPU only coin at what cost do we see if it is worth trying AGAIN. One thing is for sure... The Botnets aren't complaining.
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May 10, 2013, 01:42:00 PM |
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Any chance of a pool server on port 80?
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May 10, 2013, 01:51:30 PM |
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The early days of Litecoin followed a very similar path as YACoin is doing right now. A CPU only coin is a very good idea because it makes mining for most of the world with a computer a no brainer. The designer's intentions are genuine but we also have to take into account the realities of the world we live in. Early Litecoin adoption by botnet operators made them all rich. And truth be told, they are once again glad a CPU only coin is back in play.
Next up for YAC will be a discussion of how decentralized the network is when large groups own the majority of hashing power. Resistance to 51% attacks is limited if non existent. Will the community step up? Do the majority of new "crypto-bugs" even know what any of this means?
The LTC Community fought at least 2 such attacks and won (1st by Luke-Jr & 2nd by BCX) No other coin has survived even one (including Bitcoin - there have been worries with pools getting too big, but no planned attacks to take the currency down). Litecoin also owes a little bit of gratitude to Solid:facepalm:Coin for building the Reaper protocol. While their intention was yet again to take down Litecoin by turning it into a GPU coin, they actually strengthened the base and helped to make it a stronger DE-centralized network. Botnets using CPU power lost their strong advantage over miners armed with GPUs.
While we all love the idea of a CPU only coin at what cost do we see if it is worth trying AGAIN. One thing is for sure... The Botnets aren't complaining.
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May 10, 2013, 01:55:08 PM |
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The early days of Litecoin followed a very similar path as YACoin is doing right now. A CPU only coin is a very good idea because it makes mining for most of the world with a computer a no brainer. The designer's intentions are genuine but we also have to take into account the realities of the world we live in. Early Litecoin adoption by botnet operators made them all rich. And truth be told, they are once again glad a CPU only coin is back in play.
Next up for YAC will be a discussion of how decentralized the network is when large groups own the majority of hashing power. Resistance to 51% attacks is limited if non existent. Will the community step up? Do the majority of new "crypto-bugs" even know what any of this means?
The LTC Community fought at least 2 such attacks and won (1st by Luke-Jr & 2nd by BCX) No other coin has survived even one (including Bitcoin - there have been worries with pools getting too big, but no planned attacks to take the currency down). Litecoin also owes a little bit of gratitude to Solid:facepalm:Coin for building the Reaper protocol. While their intention was yet again to take down Litecoin by turning it into a GPU coin, they actually strengthened the base and helped to make it a stronger DE-centralized network. Botnets using CPU power lost their strong advantage over miners armed with GPUs.
While we all love the idea of a CPU only coin at what cost do we see if it is worth trying AGAIN. One thing is for sure... The Botnets aren't complaining.
you make valid and solid points, but therz always a catch, m speciality is networks, but the little i know about crypto coins shows that with current implementations, its either you go the cpu way and deal with botnets or you go gpu and hash it out with 100000 people who have this. http://www.btcpedia.com/list-of-bitcoin-mining-pools/i think the community will watch this coin beacuse it had a fair launch and it is still not too late to jump on the train, and looking at the difficulty figures i think someone will compile cgminer for this within a month.
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May 10, 2013, 02:04:09 PM |
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The early days of Litecoin followed a very similar path as YACoin is doing right now. A CPU only coin is a very good idea because it makes mining for most of the world with a computer a no brainer. The designer's intentions are genuine but we also have to take into account the realities of the world we live in. Early Litecoin adoption by botnet operators made them all rich. And truth be told, they are once again glad a CPU only coin is back in play.
Next up for YAC will be a discussion of how decentralized the network is when large groups own the majority of hashing power. Resistance to 51% attacks is limited if non existent. Will the community step up? Do the majority of new "crypto-bugs" even know what any of this means?
The LTC Community fought at least 2 such attacks and won (1st by Luke-Jr & 2nd by BCX) No other coin has survived even one (including Bitcoin - there have been worries with pools getting too big, but no planned attacks to take the currency down). Litecoin also owes a little bit of gratitude to Solid:facepalm:Coin for building the Reaper protocol. While their intention was yet again to take down Litecoin by turning it into a GPU coin, they actually strengthened the base and helped to make it a stronger DE-centralized network. Botnets using CPU power lost their strong advantage over miners armed with GPUs.
While we all love the idea of a CPU only coin at what cost do we see if it is worth trying AGAIN. One thing is for sure... The Botnets aren't complaining.
you make valid and solid points, but therz always a catch, m speciality is networks, but the little i know about crypto coins shows that with current implementations, its either you go the cpu way and deal with botnets or you go gpu and hash it out with 100000 people who have this. http://www.btcpedia.com/list-of-bitcoin-mining-pools/i think the community will watch this coin beacuse it had a fair launch and it is still not too late to jump on the train, and looking at the difficulty figures i think someone will compile cgminer for this within a month. I have to agree with you on this one. I've been hearing quite a chatter about YAC. more than usual. If this trend continues, it might well be the 3rd coin in line (or 4th probably). People should also get used to the idea that, no matter the implementation, there are very rich people with a lot of hardware, compared to you, they mine like they breath. anyways.... there's always the trading to trade, you don't need much hardware most phones today will do the job. And if you trade well, you might just get more than the miners.... just saying...... lots of options
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May 10, 2013, 02:05:45 PM |
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you make valid and solid points, but therz always a catch, m speciality is networks, but the little i know about crypto coins shows that with current implementations, its either you go the cpu way and deal with botnets or you go gpu and hash it out with 100000 people who have this. http://www.btcpedia.com/list-of-bitcoin-mining-pools/i think the community will watch this coin beacuse it had a fair launch and it is still not too late to jump on the train, and looking at the difficulty figures i think someone will compile cgminer for this within a month. So I'll ask you 2 questions: 1. Isn't YACoin a Scrypt based coin? 2. Are those miners in that picture Scrypt hashing? For sake of argument let's say the YACoin wasn't a scrypt based coin and that the picture was of 1 person's mining farm. Wouldn't you want 100000 people having the same set up for your coin? Decentralization is good right?
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May 10, 2013, 02:09:31 PM |
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Guess the first ppl got cgminer running with scrypt-jane, payout rate with CPU reached "Not worth my watt"
Isn't mined with GPU's yet, but ther is a lot of people with botnets... why are windows 64 users dumped with an inferior miner?
You can't get binaries for win 64 but you have to compile CPUMiner for that. (I tryed and failed) Also seems that people with linux has a better performance by some tecnologies that can't be used on the windows 32 miner (Cause there isn't any compiled for x64 windows based systems, so the miner can't use those technologies) I'm getting hardly 40 kh/s with my phenom II x4 955 on windows and people wth lowe proc than mine can get 100 kh/s on linux, cuase the 64 version. Optimised version of minerd for Windows 7 x64 u can find here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201027.0
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May 10, 2013, 02:20:19 PM |
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you make valid and solid points, but therz always a catch, m speciality is networks, but the little i know about crypto coins shows that with current implementations, its either you go the cpu way and deal with botnets or you go gpu and hash it out with 100000 people who have this. http://www.btcpedia.com/list-of-bitcoin-mining-pools/i think the community will watch this coin beacuse it had a fair launch and it is still not too late to jump on the train, and looking at the difficulty figures i think someone will compile cgminer for this within a month. So I'll ask you 2 questions: 1. Isn't YACoin a Scrypt based coin? 2. Are those miners in that picture Scrypt hashing? For sake of argument let's say the YACoin wasn't a scrypt based coin and that the picture was of 1 person's mining farm. Wouldn't you want 100000 people having the same set up for your coin? Decentralization is good right? yacoin is scrypt, no denying but its the first to do a hard fork on the algo, its not jus scrypt, tz scrypt-jane which significantly threw the pumpers and dumpers out , at least for a while. if i did make a coin, it would be along the lines of ONC, insane idea, but it just might work. i understand the need for decentralization, i applaud the idea. i would enjoy the initial attention, but wen you get red flagged by the community, life gets tough.
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May 10, 2013, 02:48:30 PM |
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how many blocks have been mined so far?
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May 10, 2013, 02:57:41 PM |
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how many blocks have been mined so far?
45,881, for a total of 2,403,052 coins.
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May 10, 2013, 03:00:53 PM |
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thx
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May 10, 2013, 03:35:51 PM |
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but the diff will increase will so fast. look at the only one big pool i´m mining at. a block is found in 3-5 sec so this pool i think catches about 90% or more of all blocks.
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May 10, 2013, 03:42:13 PM |
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any1 got a line on that GPU idea?
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