[ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now.

[markm]

The starting difficulty setting is the indicator, they know damn well that setting it insanely low will cause a few minutes to an hour or few of insanely fast raking in of blocks, before the target difficulty that the initial difficulty should have been set to achieve from the outset can be reached.

Starting difficulty is not as much of a problem as intentionally or unintentionally badly designed difficulty retargeting, both ways. Difficulty ramps up very slowly and ramps down very slowly
as well. First issue has to do with maximum difficulty multiplier set too low and second issue has to do with no code at all to reduce difficulty if block is not found after prolonged period of
time. Check FTC now, it is absolute proof of using outdated code.

"Time to Retarget 18 day(s), 16 hour(s), 24 min, 23 sec"

http://benhohner.com/feathercoin/statistics.php

The only altcoin that has working solution for the second issue is Terracoin. And yet those lanching new altcoins keep on failing with adding the same or similar code to their coins. Funny.

Take a look at GRouPcoin and DeVCoin and whichever other coins use the same difficulty adjustment and timetravel exploit fix that they do. So far it seems to have been working.

It is one of the couple or more of fixes that people came up with back when namecoin demonstrated that the problem existed.

-MarkM-

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[WindMaster]

Just hold for the next N++ event, difficulty will drop and reward will raise. You'll get to "pre-mine" it again.

On the other hand, changing N=32 to N=64 in modified cgminer GPU kernels on May 14 won't be particularly challenging to anyone that already made the changes the first time, and then they'll be good again until May 17 when N=128.  About 5 minutes or less of work, from my own poke at it?  Agree, Taco?

[svennand]

Ive been busy on the scrypt mining front with my GPUs. its a fun gamble where to place the power. recently had a good payday after early mining feathercoin while difficulty was under 10 and hype hadnt started=)
So far ive used around 5200USD in equipment cost. and it has all paid for itself in the two months ive been mining diffent coins=).
So everything from now is gravy=), hope this currency will add some value and not be a power waste.

Every time you set up a GPU rig, also set up, with "nice", a minerd using its spare cycles on some under the radar coin or even throw one core at each of several, and forget about them.

Some day one pops into the limelight again, like BBQ recently did, and checking your wallet you find holy cow those things add up to more money than all the coins all the GPUs raked in combined.

-MarkM-

that is a nice tip, will certainly do this from now on=)

[Mhash pipe]

should i just give up mining with my phenom ii 955?

[seleme]

Unfortunately, technology and amount of cheap computing power won't help mining of any coin to be a fair game for all. Those times are finished.

I'd point out that Amazon's AWS / EC2 resources are available to (almost) anyone.  

Agree. I was talking about most creative people too. I planned to include some of my VPSes but Azure decided to cut my trials few hours before and I never thought about Amazon.

Even if I did I'd do it with Windows because I don't have a clue about Linux and failed, so yeah, it's not only about availability, it's about creativity, some knowledge etc... that's why I don't have bad blood about anyone who takes the chance and do great stuff. I do it too when I have a chance, on a level my resources make that possible, some other do it on higher, some other on lower level etc... it's a life.

[Adamlm]

It seems that Windows binaries were set to produce 90% orphans from the beginning.... 
Only linux users had chance to mine with decent orphan rate...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200345.0

[larkstongues]

having issue with
-Then git clone the client. In this instance git clone https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git-



you@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package https
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'https://github.com/pocopoco'

please help,
I will donate my first block for anyone that can help a tried and true windows user.

do:
# git clone https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin
# cd yacoin/src
# make -f makefile.unix

[kalgecin]

A lot of people are asking me about this so - for Ubuntu 12 +

Go to http://novacoin.org/install/ and follow the instructions  substitute libdb4.8++-dev for libdb5.3++-dev for Ubuntu 12.10 +

Next sudo apt-get install bitcoind to load the rest of the libs you need.

Then git clone the client. In this instance git clone https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git

Edit net.cpp in yacoin/src on line 28 and change
static const int MAX_OUTBOUND_CONNECTIONS = 8;
to
static const int MAX_OUTBOUND_CONNECTIONS = 1000; <--- or whatever you want 200 is probably a bit more conservative  

Once compiled run the client and set the yacoin.conf 

to do that run   editor /home/"YOURUSERNAME"/.yacoin/yacoin.conf and copy the rpcuser and pass that is generated on the screen

Then run the client in daemon mode.   ./yacoind -daemon -gen -addnode=82.211.30.212

Then you can run the commands from here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list
to check the state.   The only one you really need is ./yacoind getstatus   

P.S. since 82.211.30.212 is in the EU, it would help to run a VPN etc that is in or near Germany...

If you found this useful 

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having issue with
-Then git clone the client. In this instance git clone https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git-



you@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package https
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'https://github.com/pocopoco'

please help,
I will donate my first block for anyone that can help a tried and true windows user.

sudo apt-get install git
pm if you face problems

[Adamlm]

PoolMinor, read instructions carefully: the command is git clone <link to repository>
first install git: sudo apt-get install git

[msm595]

[2013-05-09 16:28:30] thread 0: 28332 hashes, 5.64 khash/s
[2013-05-09 16:28:30] thread 1: 28604 hashes, 5.73 khash/s
[2013-05-09 16:28:30] thread 3: 28120 hashes, 5.61 khash/s
[2013-05-09 16:28:31] thread 2: 25720 hashes, 5.23 khash/s

is my 3570k broken?
3600MHz stock

why so low ?

I think the difference is the 64bit AVX and XOP instructions. This binary is 32bit and can't use them. I'm working on a 64bit binary now.

Any update on the 64bit version?

+1

I've gotten it to compile, but it doesn't run. There is some error....

[dooferorg]

but tecnically is not pre-mine, i think it shoul be given another name.

Agree.  Rather than pre-mining, perhaps ready-mining?

i'd call it being-at-the-right-place-at-the-right-time-mining

Or just 'frantic land grab'

[Caesar V]

So - you guys mining on linux now, How much yac per block for 1 cpu?

[WeissJT]

[2013-05-09 16:28:30] thread 0: 28332 hashes, 5.64 khash/s
[2013-05-09 16:28:30] thread 1: 28604 hashes, 5.73 khash/s
[2013-05-09 16:28:30] thread 3: 28120 hashes, 5.61 khash/s
[2013-05-09 16:28:31] thread 2: 25720 hashes, 5.23 khash/s

is my 3570k broken?
3600MHz stock

why so low ?

I think the difference is the 64bit AVX and XOP instructions. This binary is 32bit and can't use them. I'm working on a 64bit binary now.

Any update on the 64bit version?

+1

I've gotten it to compile, but it doesn't run. There is some error....

  what kind of error?

[WindMaster]

So - you guys mining on linux now, How much yac per block for 1 cpu?

Current reward is:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 29.54000000,
        "confirmations" : 399,
        "generated" : true,
        (remainder censored)
    },

[bitdwarf]

fatal error: miniupnpc/miniwget.h: No such file or directory

sudo apt-get install libminiupnpc-dev

[gudmunsn]

having issue with
-Then git clone the client. In this instance git clone https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git-



you@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin.git
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package https
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'https://github.com/pocopoco'

please help,
I will donate my first block for anyone that can help a tried and true windows user.

do:
# git clone https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin
# cd yacoin/src
# make -f makefile.unix

First of all thank you for your help..
I had not installed <git> yet, that made a difference.
I input the make -f makefile.unix command- and received this error afterwards

fatal error: miniupnpc/miniwget.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/net.o] Error 1

sudo apt-get install miniupnpc

[Caesar V]

So - you guys mining on linux now, How much yac per block for 1 cpu?

Current reward is:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 29.54000000,
        "confirmations" : 399,
        "generated" : true,
        (remainder censored)
    },

Thanks  

[Balthozar]

So I am running the wallet on Windows 8, I fired it up with the command to enable mining, I threw 4 threads at it off my i7 3630. Is there no output to display? Like hashrate or accepted/rejected shares? I know it's doing something because my temps shot up to ~170 F and my fan kicked into high gear.

[markm]

There was no exploit of special kind with FTC, it is just classic old "mine it until it's the most profitable then abandon the train" issue. Terracoin experienced that and got hurt badly
but it is fixed, which is not true for any other coin. Not sure if developers are affraid of hard-forking blockchain or not, but lack of action will inevitably lead to catastrophic outcome
sooner or later. Even BTC developers are playing with fire there.

You don't seem familiar with the history.

We are not talking about any special exploit, it is just that while one is in there fixing the problem namecoin ran into, which Terracoin and Feathercoin recently also ran into due to not having already had the fix ahead of time, you might as well also fix the timetravel exploit.

If Terracoin's and/or Feathercoin's fix for the problem they recently experienced, that namecoin experienced before them so long ago, does not include also fixing the timetravel exploit while they are in there changing stuff, then they are simply setting themselves up to be hit by the timetravel exploit. Just like they set themselves up for what they just experienced, which is simple chain-hopping, the same thing namecoin experienced, the same thing nearly all the coins that existed back when namecoin experienced it promptly fixed so that it would not happen to them.

If Terracoin and/or Feathercoin left out the fix that would have prevented them suffering the way they did when chain-hopped, how confident can one be that they included a fix for the timetravel exploit?

So, again: chain-hopping has been known to cause what Terracoin and Feathercoin stupidly suffered, which is why almost all coins put in fixes years ago so they would not suffer like Terracoin and Feathercoin recently did.

Terracoin and Feathercoin are thus way late to the party when it comes to fixing chainhopping, they are NOT the only chains that have fixed it, they are the idiots that left out the fix in the first place.

Are they going to wait until they are attacked by the time travel exploit before fixing that too, or did they at least include the timetravel fix along with the chain-hopping fix like most coins did way back when most coins fixed chainhopping?

-MarkM-

[WindMaster]

fatal error: miniupnpc/miniwget.h: No such file or directory

sudo apt-get install libminiupnpc-dev

Alternatively, if you don't need/want uPnP in your client, then you can just omit it:

make -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=-