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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 703945 times)
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July 31, 2017, 10:49:09 AM
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like all other airdrop coins and this one will last shortly, many will rush to sell it immediately. What will be after few months this is different story, this will be only best known altcoin, possibly. It will be very hard to see 1/10 rate. Undecided
If BTC goes over 3k which is very possible during this summer, just do not expect much from BCC, nor any other coin.

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July 31, 2017, 10:53:07 AM
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So will there be two coins immediately on 12:20 UTC time on August 1. or is there some sort of lock in period or something of that sort ?

BCC will exist once the first Bitcoin Cash block has been found. This can not be before 12:20 UTC time on August 1 but it could be hours or days later depending on how much hashing power there is.

Also how exactly do I use the Bitcoin ABC client to split the coins? I send a transaction with some flag and then another without the flag?

You just copy the wallet.dat file to your Bitcoin ABC data folder after the fork has happened and any transaction you will do will be only with your BCCs.

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July 31, 2017, 10:55:10 AM
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Thanks for information. I was waiting for release specifically this wallet. I expect there is no critical bugs.

What is this all about?

https://www.virustotal.com/el/file/66fc16d1d9782f32d0f73bd5cd109a3a9b89003b2eb70daa18d4205235d7f40a/analysis/

the file was downloaded from http://www.electroncash.org

Yea windows wont let me install and chrome warns of being a virus not the best start lol
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July 31, 2017, 10:57:05 AM
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Thanks for information. I was waiting for release specifically this wallet. I expect there is no critical bugs.

What is this all about?

https://www.virustotal.com/el/file/66fc16d1d9782f32d0f73bd5cd109a3a9b89003b2eb70daa18d4205235d7f40a/analysis/

the file was downloaded from http://www.electroncash.org

Yea windows wont let me install and chrome warns of being a virus not the best start lol
I cannot download on my chrome too, its blocking by chrome. Why is that? What should i do to install the wallet? That is just a false flag doesnt it?

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July 31, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
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Thanks for information. I was waiting for release specifically this wallet. I expect there is no critical bugs.

What is this all about?

https://www.virustotal.com/el/file/66fc16d1d9782f32d0f73bd5cd109a3a9b89003b2eb70daa18d4205235d7f40a/analysis/

the file was downloaded from http://www.electroncash.org

Yea windows wont let me install and chrome warns of being a virus not the best start lol
I cannot download on my chrome too, its blocking by chrome. Why is that? What should i do to install the wallet? That is just a false flag doesnt it?

I can decide to keep the file then windows stops it running and needs extra steps to say you want to run it

Since im only wanting to transfer my bcc to kraken after ive moved my btc to a another wallet seems a waste to download the entire blockchain although im 2 thirds done now
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July 31, 2017, 11:04:18 AM
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This from the original electrum-2.9.0.exe Smiley
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July 31, 2017, 11:05:30 AM
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Damn chinese miners, I wouldn't refuse to mine it too if it was asic resistant coin(would be nice feature guess).
So BCC not trading yet anywhere?

it doesn't exist yet so no. there are futures options on the chinese exchanges like okex and viabtc. i don't know how much possible relevance those prices will have when it's real.
I see thanks, will be watching for future of this coin.

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July 31, 2017, 11:09:24 AM
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Damn chinese miners, I wouldn't refuse to mine it too if it was asic resistant coin(would be nice feature guess).
So BCC not trading yet anywhere?

it doesn't exist yet so no. there are futures options on the chinese exchanges like okex and viabtc. i don't know how much possible relevance those prices will have when it's real.
I see thanks, will be watching for future of this coin.

So far its near its all time low even before it launched and will just keep dropping
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July 31, 2017, 11:32:34 AM
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so presumably we have to wait for a block to be mined before we move our bitcoins?
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July 31, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
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so presumably we have to wait for a block to be mined before we move our bitcoins?

I would have thought so unless you have already moved it to an exchange that will support it and tbh that would be a stupid move

Looking at futures https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/ its currently down to $292 and every time i look its another $20 or more
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July 31, 2017, 11:48:28 AM
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I would have thought so unless you have already moved it to an exchange that will support it and tbh that would be a stupid move

Looking at futures https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/ its currently down to $292 and every time i look its another $20 or more

hmm. i wonder how long it's gonna take to get a block.

kudos to anyone who had the balls to lock up btc on viatbtc. i don't think it'll ever reach those prices again.
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July 31, 2017, 12:47:12 PM
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They didn't specify a Block Number, just a time right?
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July 31, 2017, 12:56:24 PM
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They didn't specify a Block Number, just a time right?

it doesn't exist until someone actually mines it. until then it remains an idea and nothing else.
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July 31, 2017, 12:59:40 PM
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What about bcc value?

I mean if for exemple btc is 2700 dollars the 1st of august , BCC can't be 300dollars or btc should decrease at 2400?

Is this the right way of looking at BCC?
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What about bcc value?

I mean if for exemple btc is 2700 dollars the 1st of august , BCC can't be 300dollars or btc should decrease at 2400?

Is this the right way of looking at BCC?

Once a coin "breaks off" from another coin, it's value is free to be set or manipulated independent of the original coin.

So "no" (to your question), b/c these prices are "perceived" value (short-term, sometimes "in-the-emotion"). They have been set by individuals/bots/exchanges, which are then bought by other individuals/bots who are "willing" to pay that price.

But "yes" to your assessment toward total real market value (long-term, when hindsight is more 20/20). Because this UAHF will be in "direct" competition with the originating coin.

What they/we are actually getting can be a different story, which usually plays out in-time vs in-the-moment.

It's not too unlike some of these exchanges or ICOs we've see, with little -- if any -- history. Some of them make massive gains, only to disappear with people's money into a black hole of private, privileged vacations or unending "extended" stays in remote locations such as Caribbean Islands or even China (Big Vern). But trust me, that value -- that "money" -- came from somewhere. Whereas other exchanges or ICOs are (or show themselves to be) more legitimate.
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July 31, 2017, 01:20:10 PM
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like all other airdrop coins and this one will last shortly, many will rush to sell it immediately. What will be after few months this is different story, this will be only best known altcoin, possibly. It will be very hard to see 1/10 rate. Undecided
If BTC goes over 3k which is very possible during this summer, just do not expect much from BCC, nor any other coin.

Really dont like the BCC idea, but will look with interest, how quickly people will sell this free coins. Many people with BTC will move back to altcoins after hard fork and maybe we'll see a good rally.

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July 31, 2017, 01:21:12 PM
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What about bcc value?

I mean if for exemple btc is 2700 dollars the 1st of august , BCC can't be 300dollars or btc should decrease at 2400?

Is this the right way of looking at BCC?

in theory yes. Value cannot be generated from thin air. So the BCC value is likely to be deducted from its origin (BTC) - at least at the very first moments of its existence. After that markets take over.
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July 31, 2017, 01:32:21 PM
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What about bcc value?

I mean if for exemple btc is 2700 dollars the 1st of august , BCC can't be 300dollars or btc should decrease at 2400?

Is this the right way of looking at BCC?

in theory yes. Value cannot be generated from thin air. So the BCC value is likely to be deducted from its origin (BTC) - at least at the very first moments of its existence. After that markets take over.
so BCC is Between  300 AND 1000 Shocked

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July 31, 2017, 01:32:31 PM
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What about bcc value?

I mean if for exemple btc is 2700 dollars the 1st of august , BCC can't be 300dollars or btc should decrease at 2400?

Is this the right way of looking at BCC?

What is the value of something what doesn't exist? 0,00 (BCH will only start to exist after 1.8. 12:20 when somebody mines there the first block)

After that the dump of the free BCH coins will start and the price what you will see after this first major dump will be the value of the BCH coin.

BTC value is independent of that or did any other new alt coin really affect BTC value? (maybe ETH a bit but that's no new coin and in majority ETH follows BTC and not vice-versa).

If you like you can just create your own coin and start with a copy of BTC chain with a free airdrop to all BTC holders - would be the same Smiley
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July 31, 2017, 01:41:16 PM
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i just hold my btc and plan to do nothing, i dont know how will the market go, maybe like eth and etc, maybe bcc will go to zero. perhaps this is just a small thing to btc many years later

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