[NLG] The great Gulden thread

[RiseandFall]

A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.

[RichPissman]

A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.

And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency.

[RiseandFall]

A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.

And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency.

Do you hold a lot of Gulden, I don't hold enough to get that involved , it will change if the price drops below 400 sat.

It's a good coin but I own less then $2000 worth at these prices.

I don't believe for 1 second that people are censored from slack without good reason.

[RichPissman]

A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.

And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency.

Do you hold a lot of Gulden, I don't hold enough to get that involved , it will change if the price drops below 400 sat.

I own enough, but Gulden is only a small part of my portfolio, so I could care less atm.

I don't believe for 1 second that people are censored from slack without good reason.

Well, lets do this fun experiment then! You register on the official slack and ask any one of these legit questions:

- "Can we get insight into the remaining part of the premine, an address perhaps?"
- "Can you tell us what is left of the 650 BTC the community paid in return for "shares" that you later described as just BTC traded for Gulden from that premine?"
- "Are there any records of funds spend this far on development, including salaries of the team?"
- "In October 2016 Rijk lend over 4 million Gulden out to Nocks due to their "low supply" in the big rally. How was that paid back and to whom?"

I know the outcome already, but I think it would be a good learning curve for you!

[RichPissman]

Meanwhile Nocks is outselling Bittrex again. Sub 500 incoming folks. But, of course, this is all the fault of BTC and the evil crypto people! Sweet dreams Gulden sheep! Eyes shut and "snaveltjes toe" 

[RiseandFall]

A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.

And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency.

Do you hold a lot of Gulden, I don't hold enough to get that involved , it will change if the price drops below 400 sat.

I own enough, but Gulden is only a small part of my portfolio, so I could care less atm.

I don't believe for 1 second that people are censored from slack without good reason.

Well, lets do this fun experiment then! You register on the official slack and ask any one of these legit questions:

- "Can we get insight into the remaining part of the premine, an address perhaps?"
- "Can you tell us what is left of the 650 BTC the community paid in return for "shares" that you later described as just BTC traded for Gulden from that premine?"
- "Are there any records of funds spend this far on development, including salaries of the team?"
- "In October 2016 Rijk lend over 4 million Gulden out to Nocks due to their "low supply" in the big rally. How was that paid back and to whom?"

I know the outcome already, but I think it would be a good learning curve for you!

I couldn't care less because Rijk owes me nothing and I owe him nothing. In some of the ICOs I have invested in I know the risks and those devs are getting 100% of the funding. I have also invested in scams and lost money but I have also invested in ETH at $3 and made enough money to waste time to reply to this thread.

None of the investors who invested in ETH cared about the funding aslong as the projects were delivered.

What I am seeing here is blind hatred like Trump gets from the communists here in the USA.

[RichPissman]

somehow you get the feeling that RichPissman thinks (part of) the premine is public property. Like Rijk owe's him part of it. Which of course is not the case. I don't care what Rijk does with the money. So far all i can say is that great development has been made by the devs. So what if they lend 4 million NLG to Nocks. The Nocks teams is great. How they create an easy to use layer between Gulden and fiat money is amazing. I think they deserve to keep the 4m NLG for all their hard work ;-).

I don't need any part of the premine. I do think however the premine was falsely turned from being community funds to Rijks private asset.

In the beginning (even during the selloff where community members bought premine for BTC (shares)) Rijk was very aware of the fact that selling premine for personal gain would have meant the end of his reign (or even Gulden as a whole). He therefor sneakily created the plan together with Roel from Nocks to "help out" their shop (remember, they had no exchange back then!). with 4.5mm G from the premine. After they sold that for prices from 7K sat all the way up to 13K sat in Euro's, they didn't buy it back from the market as they should have, no they just kept the proceeds and shared it with Rijk. Back then we called that stealing from the community. They lied intensively about it ever since and even erased it from all the sites and timelines and banned everyone that raised questions about it. Hell, they even lied about having been contacted by Slack to setup a new account with heavy redactions due to scammers (never happened to any other slack channel!) This obviously was done to control the masses, by making them identify themselves with Linked in or... Nocks accounts!

Development (tech wise) and Nocks (tech wise) are indeed very promising. But who are responsible for that? Gulden=Malcolm, Nocks=Patrick. Not Rijk and Roel, yet they are the ones that cashed out millions by fooling the community!

Oogjes dicht, snaveltjes toe!

[RichPissman]

looks like a great deal. Nice cartoon btw, not too creative on the account name though, but that is an issue you have more often.

Losing track of your suck-puppet accounts as well?

[RichPissman]

I do like your creativity btw Johnny!



What was that saying again? Something with split tongues?

[flappie]

Rich Pismann, would you like to start a conversation with the real Rijk Plasman? I can arrange that for you.

[TomPetty]

A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.

And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency.

Do you hold a lot of Gulden, I don't hold enough to get that involved , it will change if the price drops below 400 sat.

I own enough, but Gulden is only a small part of my portfolio, so I could care less atm.

I don't believe for 1 second that people are censored from slack without good reason.

Well, lets do this fun experiment then! You register on the official slack and ask any one of these legit questions:

- "Can we get insight into the remaining part of the premine, an address perhaps?"
- "Can you tell us what is left of the 650 BTC the community paid in return for "shares" that you later described as just BTC traded for Gulden from that premine?"
- "Are there any records of funds spend this far on development, including salaries of the team?"
- "In October 2016 Rijk lend over 4 million Gulden out to Nocks due to their "low supply" in the big rally. How was that paid back and to whom?"

I know the outcome already, but I think it would be a good learning curve for you!

I couldn't care less because Rijk owes me nothing and I owe him nothing. In some of the ICOs I have invested in I know the risks and those devs are getting 100% of the funding. I have also invested in scams and lost money but I have also invested in ETH at $3 and made enough money to waste time to reply to this thread.

None of the investors who invested in ETH cared about the funding aslong as the projects were delivered.

What I am seeing here is blind hatred like Trump gets from the communists here in the USA.

This!  Which state ?

[Morbs]

so you think what you are doing here is helping Gulden make it? And since all the anonymous complainers are the same , this is probably not the only place were your spill out the trash. Some fake twitter accounts, telegram, etc. And then you telling other people here what they should do to make Gulden bigger? So it won't costs you your money? You really live in a selfcentric bubble mate. You can go ask on the Gulden slack yourself.

I just want the truth to be told and sometimes the truth is hard.  You really think that the reason why Gulden goes down that hard is what we say here?  So if we all talked positive here Gulden would be 3000 sat now?  You do not really believe that yourself do you?

And the anonymous again.  So i have to post my real name, address and telephone number and then i can say something?

Yes this is the only place i say things because i have other things to do in live

I only saw that Spooly posted the same post for the 20th time and i asked him to tell people why or why not.  That's al.  That's not so bad i guess?

If i am not going to lie to make money then i rather lose my money.

And for the 1000th time i cannot ask it myself because i am banned ......

[johnnybraveau]

Reading and understanding what other people say seems a bit hard for you

Nowhere did i say Gulden would be at 3000 sat without this forum, you just made that up and pinned it on me

I agree with you that this forum probably doesn’t have a big influence on Gulden

We cannot say with certainty that it has any influence, that is why i said something that we CAN say with certainty:

It is not helping Gulden. That is what we can say for sure. Not helping Gulden makes sense for people who sold all their Gulden and are doing it to get back at somebody. Getting back at somebody while still having a personal interest in the value of Gulden doesn’t make sense at all. That is the last thing i am going to say on this forum. Adios

[Reallist]

Will Nocks hire Malcolm to continue development on Gulden if Rijk had to lose or spend all the premine?
I am prepared to get more people invested if a backup plan is in place for the development team.

[flappie]

Rich Pismann, would you like to start a conversation with the real Rijk Plasman? I can arrange that for you.

Not even a reaction?

[RichPissman]

Rich Pismann, would you like to start a conversation with the real Rijk Plasman? I can arrange that for you.

Not even a reaction?

Some people do sleep you know 

[BioMike]

Well, apparently it had to come to this.