[NLG] The great Gulden thread

[KrustyTheClown]

wouldn't it be better if the crew did advertising and cognizance on stepping into high volume exchanges in place of high-quality improvement? The pinnacle 2 hundred cash on coinmarketcap reveals that doing no improvement but promoting their blockchain to uneducated hundreds reaps within the investments?

At least someone else here gets it.

Make no mistake it must be hard for Rijk and his team to see lies with marketing win the day, but the people able to do this do have some capital behind them. Once you market you also need to fake volume and manipulate prices at the same time. Other coins are also setup just to do money laundering and these people don't give a fuck about the coin , all it has to do is be able to transfer coins from exchange to exchange. They will still have to market these coins to make it seem legitimate.

To sum up what is guaranteed success in today's market when money laundering is not involved.
 
1. Marketing (Truth or Not)
2. Fake volume
3. Manipulate price

The above 3 ingredients will always beat innovative development hands down while crypto is still in the wild west stage. Move forward 5 years and I believe this will be the time Gulden will shine for the following reasons.

1. Longevity and always improving what they have.
2. Gulden will have the moral high ground with no lying or faking to be used against them. Suffer now by not faking and have peace of mind in the future that the media can't use it against you.
3. They have proven multiple times they can push development to new heights, the coin has been getting better with time, not worse.

The person investing in Gulden today shouldn't expect any stable ROI for another 5 years. The people who should invest in Gulden should be those people who have money they can do without. Not traders who trade to pay the rent off each month with profits.

I still stand by my comment in the other post, MARKETING will need to be done because Gulden will one day have competition in development.

Of course marketing has to be done someday. It's just impossible to compete against the ICO marketing in current market with their false promises and money literally being handed over for NOTHING in return.All of that money can be used to spend on hookers and invest more in marketing, to sell more tokens and spend that money on hookers aswell (this is basically what is happening right now with ICO's).

As soon as the cancer called ICO's has been eliminated by governments, then marketing would actually be a worthy investment.

The difference between a good ICO and a bad ICO is Meth vs Coke. Sacrifices have to be made but hookers have to remain.

[Jean.Luc]

Can we stop comparing Gulden to ICO’s! It’s like comparing apples to pears. Completely different products.

Gulden is a blockchain based payment system. One of the few projects worldwide with their own blockchain. And probably the safest ever build.

Let’s compare Gulden to Euro or Dollar, that’s where it is targeting at. To make it easier, faster and cheaper than those paymentsystems.

[BigDikBTC]

Can we stop comparing Gulden to ICO’s! It’s like comparing apples to pears. Completely different products.

Gulden is a blockchain based payment system. One of the few projects worldwide with their own blockchain. And probably the safest ever build.

Let’s compare Gulden to Euro or Dollar, that’s where it is targeting at. To make it easier, faster and cheaper than those paymentsystems.

I might have to start investing in this coin again. Notice the mining rewards are still 100, is it not meant to be going down to 80?

[BioMike]

Can we stop comparing Gulden to ICO’s! It’s like comparing apples to pears. Completely different products.

Gulden is a blockchain based payment system. One of the few projects worldwide with their own blockchain. And probably the safest ever build.

Let’s compare Gulden to Euro or Dollar, that’s where it is targeting at. To make it easier, faster and cheaper than those paymentsystems.

That's why you have to market it, not to get the ICO crowd on board, but to Henk and Ingrid so they can spend it at stores. I'm not a marketing guy, but even I can understand this. This sponsoring of that gocart dude is nice, but without some solid backup it's pissing away money.

[Jean.Luc]

There is a difference between marketing and promoting. The marketing is actually not the problem, the product is great, does what it should. Now we have to promote it. To companies and consumers. So where can we bring those in contact with the product the easiest way? Payment system fairs? Shopping centres?
Any ideas?

[Hansey]

I might have to start investing in this coin again. Notice the mining rewards are still 100, is it not meant to be going down to 80?

Not yet, PoW2 is being rolled out in phases. When witnessing starts, the mining reward will go down to 80.

[BigDikBTC]

I might have to start investing in this coin again. Notice the mining rewards are still 100, is it not meant to be going down to 80?

Not yet, PoW2 is being rolled out in phases. When witnessing starts, the mining reward will go down to 80.

This is good news for Gulden investors.

[Morbs]

We made it! The crowdfunding of Max’s sponsorship has been completed

http://guldenbites.com/2018/06/19/crowdfunding-racingteamgulden-with-kartchampion-max-tubben/

http://crowdfunding.gulden.social/campaign.php?name=racingteam

That was/is very good news by the way !!  

I forgot to donate this time but i am raining Gulden a few times a day in the chat on the casino site that is in my signature below so every time i do that 25 more people get in touch with Gulden and maybe some people are going to buy it after that.  I had allrdy someone who was interested in Gulden and asked me for information so everything helps i guess

[FantoNas]

Can we stop comparing Gulden to ICO’s! It’s like comparing apples to pears. Completely different products.

Gulden is a blockchain based payment system. One of the few projects worldwide with their own blockchain. And probably the safest ever build.

Let’s compare Gulden to Euro or Dollar, that’s where it is targeting at. To make it easier, faster and cheaper than those paymentsystems.

I have a great respect to you JeanLuc, but I do not think that gulden should be compared to Euro or Dollar. I know with knock a good system is in place, but to be realistic , gulden already lost the war to be a easier payment system. GAFA are already the winners. (Google, Apple, Facebook , ...) you can send money very easily to anyone in a message. And local payment system are also very developed.  In Canada by example we send money to everyone only with his email or phone number. It's used by all the canadian bank , and the fees is 0.00$ !!!
Why do I would registered on a website (like Nock if i was European) bittrex for North Am citizen , buy Btc , change my btc for Gulden, and pay in gulden. If I do that I pay directly in BTC that's all. That what all the miners did to pay for L3+. Btc with another third party like nock could be changed to prepaid visa or mastercard so you can virtually spend it everywhrere.
For sure BTC it's not a good idea for a coffe or small direct transaction.
I used Gulden only for wire to Europe IT WAS very good, but it's not anymore. They removed, the possibilty to send money to a iban which is not registered on nock. Officialy because you can not put name of the recipient on the gulden wallet. I think rather it's for cause of money laudering.
For sure Gulden has a place in payment system , but it will stay marginal and use only by few geeks or altermondialists.

[Luuk]

Can we stop comparing Gulden to ICO’s! It’s like comparing apples to pears. Completely different products.

Gulden is a blockchain based payment system. One of the few projects worldwide with their own blockchain. And probably the safest ever build.

Let’s compare Gulden to Euro or Dollar, that’s where it is targeting at. To make it easier, faster and cheaper than those paymentsystems.

I have a great respect to you JeanLuc, but I do not think that gulden should be compared to Euro or Dollar. I know with knock a good system is in place, but to be realistic , gulden already lost the war to be a easier payment system. GAFA are already the winners. (Google, Apple, Facebook , ...) you can send money very easily to anyone in a message. And local payment system are also very developed.  In Canada by example we send money to everyone only with his email or phone number. It's used by all the canadian bank , and the fees is 0.00$ !!!
Why do I would registered on a website (like Nock if i was European) bittrex for North Am citizen , buy Btc , change my btc for Gulden, and pay in gulden. If I do that I pay directly in BTC that's all. That what all the miners did to pay for L3+. Btc with another third party like nock could be changed to prepaid visa or mastercard so you can virtually spend it everywhrere.
For sure BTC it's not a good idea for a coffe or small direct transaction.
I used Gulden only for wire to Europe IT WAS very good, but it's not anymore. They removed, the possibilty to send money to a iban which is not registered on nock. Officialy because you can not put name of the recipient on the gulden wallet. I think rather it's for cause of money laudering.
For sure Gulden has a place in payment system , but it will stay marginal and use only by few geeks or altermondialists.

This is the reason witnessing is important, you can start earning Gulden(interest) with your Gulden. Besides the other security benefits and instant transactions. The other advantage which all crypto coins have is that the money is in your control in the event something happened with the banks. The difference with Gulden is they do have a payment system in place which 99% of the other cryptos don't.

The other big disadvantage with fiat is that it becomes more worthless with time. Gulden will either maintain value or increase if the team keep things up and a marketing angel comes and saves the day.

[Jean.Luc]

Can we stop comparing Gulden to ICO’s! It’s like comparing apples to pears. Completely different products.

Gulden is a blockchain based payment system. One of the few projects worldwide with their own blockchain. And probably the safest ever build.

Let’s compare Gulden to Euro or Dollar, that’s where it is targeting at. To make it easier, faster and cheaper than those paymentsystems.

I have a great respect to you JeanLuc, but I do not think that gulden should be compared to Euro or Dollar. I know with knock a good system is in place, but to be realistic , gulden already lost the war to be a easier payment system. GAFA are already the winners. (Google, Apple, Facebook , ...) you can send money very easily to anyone in a message. And local payment system are also very developed.  In Canada by example we send money to everyone only with his email or phone number. It's used by all the canadian bank , and the fees is 0.00$ !!!
Why do I would registered on a website (like Nock if i was European) bittrex for North Am citizen , buy Btc , change my btc for Gulden, and pay in gulden. If I do that I pay directly in BTC that's all. That what all the miners did to pay for L3+. Btc with another third party like nock could be changed to prepaid visa or mastercard so you can virtually spend it everywhrere.
For sure BTC it's not a good idea for a coffe or small direct transaction.
I used Gulden only for wire to Europe IT WAS very good, but it's not anymore. They removed, the possibilty to send money to a iban which is not registered on nock. Officialy because you can not put name of the recipient on the gulden wallet. I think rather it's for cause of money laudering.
For sure Gulden has a place in payment system , but it will stay marginal and use only by few geeks or altermondialists.

Thanks for the insights on the Canadian situation. We also have a ‘sent direct to friends’ system called Tikkie (Netherlands). But it stil involves banks or as you mention big corporate companies like Facebook, parties I really do no trust, they are even worse than banks and governments. So what we need is a truly decentralised payment system. Fast, secure and still easy to use.
By the way Alias is on the Gulden roadmap to make it more easy to send Gulden directly to friends.

Nocks is great, but I can forsee that more of those kind of companies will enter the Gulden Eco system.
Maybe one from Canada? Or China? Who knows. Anyone can develop on top of the Gulden Blockchain.

P.S.  the IBAN limitation is something from the EU, so not Nocks induced. It will be solved in one of the next wallet updates.

[BioMike]

Gulden will either maintain value or increase if the team keep things up and a marketing angel comes and saves the day.

Marketing angels have been shot down by the dozen over the past few years. As for increasing value, not in it's current implementation. The reward drop was removed and replaced with a single drop to 0 in a long time to go. The ECB is reducing the flow of new money into the European market... Gulden just keeps printing.

[RichDadPoorDad]

Gulden will either maintain value or increase if the team keep things up and a marketing angel comes and saves the day.

Marketing angels have been shot down by the dozen over the past few years. As for increasing value, not in it's current implementation. The reward drop was removed and replaced with a single drop to 0 in a long time to go. The ECB is reducing the flow of new money into the European market... Gulden just keeps printing.

Coins that had a high output at the start with rewards halving left a lot of coins in the hands of a few and it's far worse with ICOs.

[Jean.Luc]

Gulden in Figures: June. Including new merchants and some headlines.

http://guldenbites.com/2018/07/05/gulden-in-figures-june-2/

[mammon]

Hi Guys,

Really like all the work and effort that Malcolm and the other developers have put in releasing this update.
I dislike a lot of coins but this one has my full confidence.

The wallets, both Android and Desktop, work fine. (Not tried 2.0 right now, but will definitly try this the next days)
Also the option to pay in NLG (in euro) to IBAN is something that BTC and LTC for example cannot direct match!

I am full in Solo mining NLG, for a while now and damn it pays good
LTC cannot even come close in the mining rewards right now.

There seem some people having a pushing Marketing Fetish and I think NLG (for now) doesn't need this.
Stronger acceptance comes by time if the product is good, I have no doubt.
(And I think the product is good and keeps getting better...)
Even to much marketing can look like a desparate CRY for attention.

I do think this coins can gain the best succeses on the Dutch market (Duh?) because the Dutch might aware of the History connection to there old Gulden. As I understand there are a lot of shops in NL accepting NLG.
My goal is set for mining 100k NLG. If this coin will succeed as I think, this will be nice future profit!!

Keep up the great work!

[Jean.Luc]

New Retailers over the last two Month:

Handelsonderneming Reitsma BV– Metal Recycling Company Reitsma BV
Blockchain Denim – Crypto fashion
The Proof – Hairstyling in Groningen
Cafe de Toeter – Café in Groningen
Dinercafé Soestdijk – Diner in Groningen
Café De Kale Jonker – Café in Groningen
Cappuvino – Café and Wines in Groningen
Eetcafé Diep – Diner in Groningen
Café ‘t Vaatje – Café in Groningen
Café de Klikspaan – Café in Groningen
Stardust – Vintage Fashion in Groningen
Kokotoko – Fashion in Groningen
Pragmotion – Webdesign
Webcartoonsstudio – Cartoon Studio

Mannl Schilderwerken – Painter
Bananenboxer – Market stall.

[Spooly]

Up we go! 

[Morbs]

Hi Guys,

Really like all the work and effort that Malcolm and the other developers have put in releasing this update.
I dislike a lot of coins but this one has my full confidence.

The wallets, both Android and Desktop, work fine. (Not tried 2.0 right now, but will definitly try this the next days)
Also the option to pay in NLG (in euro) to IBAN is something that BTC and LTC for example cannot direct match!

I am full in Solo mining NLG, for a while now and damn it pays good
LTC cannot even come close in the mining rewards right now.

There seem some people having a pushing Marketing Fetish and I think NLG (for now) doesn't need this.
Stronger acceptance comes by time if the product is good, I have no doubt.
(And I think the product is good and keeps getting better...)
Even to much marketing can look like a desparate CRY for attention.

I do think this coins can gain the best succeses on the Dutch market (Duh?) because the Dutch might aware of the History connection to there old Gulden. As I understand there are a lot of shops in NL accepting NLG.
My goal is set for mining 100k NLG. If this coin will succeed as I think, this will be nice future profit!!

Keep up the great work!

Good to hear you are mining NLG and it pays well

Also good to hear that you keep your mined Guldens because you have full confidence in the coin.

I honoustly do not understand why people want to sell @ these prices but maybe someone can explain that to me?  

There has to come a time that a lot of people see how good this coin is and invest in it to never sell them again and that is the time it moons  

Edit:  cleaning my portfolio now and looking @ all my coins again and there are some shitcoins in it with almost no development this year and no future so i sell those and buy Gulden that has development and a future .....

[RichPissman]

There is a difference between marketing and promoting. The marketing is actually not the problem, the product is great, does what it should. Now we have to promote it. To companies and consumers. So where can we bring those in contact with the product the easiest way? Payment system fairs? Shopping centres?
Any ideas?

It's amazing to see how deeply you Gulden fanboys have been doctrined into this "marketing is evil, only development is good" paradigm of Rijk! It's starting to look like a bad remake of the movie The Wave!

The 2.0 release is out for for a week now and Gulden is trading below 1k sat. At what point are you dumb facks going to realize good development needs good marketing as well? And that also means it's going to cost (good marketing that is). So spare everyone the trouble of sponsoring a footgolf tournament that had ZERO exposure and start putting pressure on your fuhrer to use some of YOUR money (that 650BTC he got in return for "shares") and hire descent marketeers.

I said it before, Rijk is going to deliver the best DVD player in the world in a couple of years and maybe a few retro-tech-heads would want one for it's sublime design. The rest of us will have moved on to Netflix.

MARKETINGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

[BioMike]

I honoustly do not understand why people want to sell @ these prices but maybe someone can explain that to me?  

Because you can make a nice profit with trading.