[NLG] The great Gulden thread

[RichPissman]

If indeed a lot of people hear of the 3-8% interest they get vs 0.4% they get with their banks a lot of people could choose for Gulden as an investment.

According to this article https://www.apparata.nl/nieuws/nederlandse-gulden-eerste-cryptomunt-met-spaarsysteem-27335  (in Dutch) 150.000 people have Gulden @ this moment so if they buy on average 1.000 Gulden extra ( That is <60,- euro now) you talk about 150.000.000 Gulden bought extra.

I, for instance, bought already a lot more and will buy more for this prices because i am going to witness and buying @ these prices just makes it more interesting.

Although the price of Gulden goes down the future after the 2.0 update looks more bright then it ever was is in my opinion but as always think about it yourself and make up your own mind.

And here I get accused of telling half truths and spreading false info 

There have been 150k wallets created over time, that's something else than 150k users my friend! I alone must have created over 100 different Gulden wallets over time, so it's safe to say in the most positive approach no more than 10k wallets are active and even then most active Gulden users have multiple wallets, so I'd say there are 5.000 active users.

Still not bad, but please stop calculating with this fake-news data!

Hahaha and yet you make the weirdest calculation ever. Piss off man.

People would have max 2 wallets, 1 mobile wallet and 1 desktop wallet.

Just for arguments sake, how much is 10.000 wallets divided by 5.000 users? Mr. Fraction of a brain?

150.000 Wallet / 2 Per Person = Free Math Lesson for you

No you libtard! Volkswagon sold over 150 million cars in The Netherlands over time. You really think there are still 150 million of them driving around here?

[Jean.Luc]

Google play store. New Gulden wallet for Android 2.0.0.3. Already over 10k downloads in days...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.wallet&referrer=utm_source%3Dandroidworld.nl%26utm_content%3Dbatch

[RichPissman]

Google play store. New Gulden wallet for Android 2.0.0.3. Already over 10k downloads in 1.700 days...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.wallet&referrer=utm_source%3Dandroidworld.nl%26utm_content%3Dbatch

More fake data sentiment, that 10k+ includes all previous versions, people that redownloaded after resetting/losing their phone etc.

[Jean.Luc]

Google play store. New Gulden wallet for Android 2.0.0.3. Already over 10k downloads in 1.700 days...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.wallet&referrer=utm_source%3Dandroidworld.nl%26utm_content%3Dbatch

More fake data sentiment, that 10k+ includes all previous versions, people that redownloaded after resetting/losing their phone etc.

Let me remind you that the previous version was released by Nocks, current version is released by Gulden.com.
So it is indeed a new counting that started.

But I agree with you that the actual number of users is unknown to us. Nocks might have Numbers on active users which would be more accurate.

P.S. Please refrein from calling names here The Fraction and Richpissman.

[KrustyTheClown]

“On July 12th 2018 - 16::00 UTC upgraded miners will be able to begin signalling their upgrade status in the blocks they mine.”

So just a few more days, and with a bit of luck we can start phase two....
..after that I think entering into phase 3 is just a matter of hours until everybody fills their witness accounts.

(P.S. if not enough miners did upgrade another checkpoint is in three and a half days again, so on July 14th)

12th July the PoW reward will drop to 80 if the miners have upgraded?

IF. Than, Yes.

Thanks, I know a few traders waiting for this drop to take place.

The 80 PoW reward drop is going to teach Rijk a lesson that myself and Biomike been trying to teach. The more scarce the supply the better the value, if the price goes down after the reward drop then Biomike and I are wrong.

When the price goes up then the devs must consider introducing halving of reward even if every 5 years.

EFL doesn't have a cheap dev team from South Africa which is why we can't compete but if we had the SA Elon Musk type development with our scarce supply we would be top 20 on CMC.

Your one strange cracker.

[Spooly]

The only way Gulden is going is UP

Honestly, any one that have a brain and is smart can see that Gulden is the best coin out there, hands down.

If you want to profit for sure in the mid/long term, and not bet in a scam coin, that is.

Go Gulden!

[FantoNas]

The only way Gulden is going is UP

Honestly, any one that have a brain and is smart can see that Gulden is the best coin out there, hands down.

If you want to profit for sure in the mid/long term, and not bet in a scam coin, that is.

Go Gulden!

I agree with you that is the best coin out there , but ...

I could speak about the oldest coin , and the less advanced : since the begining no line of code has change. But guess what BTC is the 1st coin, the highest volume, marketcap etc ... So even if NLG is the best coin, best advanced technically it is not a promise of succes. User does not care about techno.

[Jean.Luc]

Plz Rich P.  i respect your opinion so please respect mine.  I shall never try to spread fake news on purpose so please do not accuse me of doing that  

I read that article and took that number not knowing if it is true or not but just for calculating sake. What i do know for sure is that more and more people are interested in crypto coins and also bought Gulden so my assumption that if more people could buy Gulden if they hear about 3-8% interest is not a wrong one and creates a new demand.

A lot of small users buying extra Gulden is the same as one Whale buying a lot of extra Gulden

Relax, not accusing you of anything, I just referred to the accusations I get all the time for trying to tell the truth that gets blocked in the heavily moderated world of Rijk.

And I agree with you that if more and more people get involved and invest small amounts that would be a good thing. But that's not going to happen with foot golf sponsorships alone.

Over time so many people have left Gulden for the nazi style run community, that it's safe to say most of the wallets ever created are obsolete ones residing on old servers and laptops.



You really think this few peers would be online if 150k users were active?

Because a lot of Pi nodes have been added, the full nodes have fewer visitors.
A side effect is that the nodes that report to Guldennodes.com miss out on a lot of visitors, so Guldennodes.com records a far too low number of nodes/peers.  

Good for the Network, but not so, if you base your investments on these ‘low’ numbers.

[FornaxNLG]

Especially if somebody 'roeptoetert' these numbers as 'proof' without understanding them.   Bare numbers are factual, but they are not always the whole story.

[PeterPicker]

Plz Rich P.  i respect your opinion so please respect mine.  I shall never try to spread fake news on purpose so please do not accuse me of doing that  

I read that article and took that number not knowing if it is true or not but just for calculating sake. What i do know for sure is that more and more people are interested in crypto coins and also bought Gulden so my assumption that if more people could buy Gulden if they hear about 3-8% interest is not a wrong one and creates a new demand.

A lot of small users buying extra Gulden is the same as one Whale buying a lot of extra Gulden

Relax, not accusing you of anything, I just referred to the accusations I get all the time for trying to tell the truth that gets blocked in the heavily moderated world of Rijk.

And I agree with you that if more and more people get involved and invest small amounts that would be a good thing. But that's not going to happen with foot golf sponsorships alone.

Over time so many people have left Gulden for the nazi style run community, that it's safe to say most of the wallets ever created are obsolete ones residing on old servers and laptops.

https://image.ibb.co/f8kZ6o/Schermafbeelding_2018_07_09_om_13_23_02.png

You really think this few peers would be online if 150k users were active?

Because a lot of Pi nodes have been added, the full nodes have fewer visitors.
A side effect is that the nodes that report to Guldennodes.com miss out on a lot of visitors, so Guldennodes.com records a far too low number of nodes/peers.  

Good for the Network, but not so, if you base your investments on these ‘low’ numbers.

Thanks for all your updates Jean.luc and can't wait to start witnessing. I have been really busy with some projects that haven't had much time to keep track of things but it looks like some free time is coming back at a good time.

Well done to the development team!!

The Low nodes is more to do with the low price, I remember seeing over 20000 in December when the price was high. I am sure people were glued to their wallets looking at the ticker and buying coins.

[RichPissman]

Especially if somebody 'roeptoetert' these numbers as 'proof' without understanding them.   Bare numbers are factual, but they are not always the whole story.

So it’s ok to “roeptoeter” false numbers like 150k users, based on the assumption that all wallets ever created represent a unique user. But assuming factual numbers presented by a Gulden website is not?

Oh wait! It has to be positive geroeptoeter only! Got it.

[Morbs]

User does not care about techno.

I think more and more people will do care in the future.

After they have been scammed and see that other coins are not delivering they want a safe haven and then they come to ...........  Gulden 

[Danuberiver]

A good price for this coin is 0.03 , I will fill my bags at this price.

[flappie]

good shitcoin. it went from 18k to under 1k.

I think you need some new glasses because according to my information it was never 18k but 10769 sat the highest

And if that is your definition of a shitcoin, when it is going down, then it is true but my definition is  different.  Unfortunately Gulden did not rise but you have to keep Gulden for the long run and then it passes all the real shitcoins and a lot of good coins but choose yourself.

I can't say anything, but I expect it to hit 1,80€ before Sep

BTC is going to increase so much that all the locked NLG cause not enough sell power to drop it further. :-D

Imagine if 1 of the major news outlets shares a banks destroying story on Guldens interest rates

If indeed a lot of people hear of the 3-8% interest they get vs 0.4% they get with their banks a lot of people could choose for Gulden as an investment.

According to this article https://www.apparata.nl/nieuws/nederlandse-gulden-eerste-cryptomunt-met-spaarsysteem-27335  (in Dutch) 150.000 people have Gulden @ this moment so if they buy on average 1.000 Gulden extra ( That is <60,- euro now) you talk about 150.000.000 Gulden bought extra.

I, for instance, bought already a lot more and will buy more for this prices because i am going to witness and buying @ these prices just makes it more interesting.

Although the price of Gulden goes down the future after the 2.0 update looks more bright then ever is my opinion but as always think about it yourself and make up your own mind.

Sorry about 18k. But it went from 14k8 to 500sat

Haha another stupid crypto boy who cannot see the right values and is only focused on the BTC value.
The 14k8 point was reached in October 2016. The average euro value of Gulden in Oct. 2016 was then €0,0317.
The 500 sat was reached in December 2017. The average Euro value of Gulden in Dec. 2017 was €0,1127
Shortsighted crypto-dick 

[Bokito1987]

Low today of 4.7 cents, hope you are right about what you have mentioned for people currently invested in Gulden

Sell gulden. €0,04 soon more likely...

Look at any chart on CMC, latest developments of the coin are not being appreciated enough by the market, though the technological aspects seem to be there, again there is no marketing, active FIAT pairings would also benefit the amount of people that could utilize and trade with gulden.

Buy Gulden. € 1,80 soon possibly.

Feel free to think so. I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely to hit €1,80 than €0,04.

[The Fraction]

Low today of 4.7 cents, hope you are right about what you have mentioned for people currently invested in Gulden

Sell gulden. €0,04 soon more likely...

Look at any chart on CMC, latest developments of the coin are not being appreciated enough by the market, though the technological aspects seem to be there, again there is no marketing, active FIAT pairings would also benefit the amount of people that could utilize and trade with gulden.

Buy Gulden. € 1,80 soon possibly.

Feel free to think so. I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely to hit €1,80 than €0,04.

0,04 is less than 0,047 (like 20% to go still)

[Luuk]

Looking at the rankings drop on CMC I am beginning to think the trolls are correct about marketing being greater then development. I bet the price would be much higher if they didn't do any development and only advertised Gulden on the interwebs.

[Bokito1987]

Low today of 4.7 cents, hope you are right about what you have mentioned for people currently invested in Gulden

Sell gulden. €0,04 soon more likely...

Look at any chart on CMC, latest developments of the coin are not being appreciated enough by the market, though the technological aspects seem to be there, again there is no marketing, active FIAT pairings would also benefit the amount of people that could utilize and trade with gulden.

Buy Gulden. € 1,80 soon possibly.

Feel free to think so. I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely to hit €1,80 than €0,04.

0,04 is less than 0,047 (like 20% to go still)

1.8 Eur... 3600% to go...

[RichPissman]

Haha another stupid crypto boy who cannot see the right values and is only focused on the BTC value.
The 14k8 point was reached in October 2016. The average euro value of Gulden in Oct. 2016 was then €0,0317.
The 500 sat was reached in December 2017. The average Euro value of Gulden in Dec. 2017 was €0,1127
Shortsighted crypto-dick  

The only reason for the Euro price so rise was BTC, nothing to do with NLG. I dare to give it one more shot to explain:

If you spend $ 1,000 on BTC on Oct-18 2016, you'd get 0.180 BTC
If you sold that on Dec-18 2017, you'd get $ 3,441,- in return.

If you invested that 0.18 BTC on Oct-18 2016 in NLG, that would have bought you G 1,370
If you sold that G 1,370 on Dec 18 2017 it would have brought you 0.009 BTC, at that time worth $ 170,-

Conclusion? If you stayed with BTC in your timeframe, you would have made a 344% profit!
Invested it in NLG? You would have made a 83% Loss!



Sub 900sat now. I wonder at what price level the fanboys start to worry Marketing may be a bit overdue indeed?

[RichPissman]

If.. If.. If..

We get it, you missed out on the NLG 40cents. Bye.

No if's, facts!

And you are absolutely right! I sold most of my Gulden in October 2016, so made one hell of a lot more than that lousy 40cts on them, thanks to BTC!  

10/18/2016: Sell G 1,000,000,- @ 13,000sat = 130 BTC
10/18/2017: Sell 130 BTC @ $ 19,000 = $ 2,470,000

$ 2,47 per Gulden yeahhhh!!!

But please keep cheering when Gulden gets back to 7ct's boys!