MICRO
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October 12, 2014, 10:09:51 PM |
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I got bit nostalgic about faucet.
If it wasn't for faucet i probably wouldn't be here today.
Primedice faucet and community is what got me started. And about year later im mod on pd and earning 1+ btc per month .
But this is also a business , if faucet is costing to much and causing to much problems for support , well got to do what u got to do.
Great thing is that Stunna is asking for community to give suggestions , to say what it has to say , and maybe give solution. And im sure we can come up with some compromise that will benefit everybody.
I don't use faucet anymore but it got me started long time ago. So i can understand people that rly doesn't want it to be removed.
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BBmmBB
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October 12, 2014, 10:13:02 PM |
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bring back the .0001 faucet for everyone !!!! problem solved!!!
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danksheeet
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October 12, 2014, 10:15:03 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
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Seketsuna
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October 12, 2014, 10:17:05 PM |
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Its time to say goodbye to your faucets and thats enough charity/generosity PD have been doing.
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Stunna (OP)
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October 12, 2014, 10:18:45 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters.
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danksheeet
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October 12, 2014, 10:19:38 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. o ya forgot about that
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YosemittySAM
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October 12, 2014, 10:23:34 PM |
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not even giving us bits. we get .00000001 of a penny like that is anything to blink at. Fuck it, it is the governments way of reminding us they have control over us, and we're allowing it. Primedice will do whatever they want anyay.
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Anony
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October 12, 2014, 10:27:14 PM |
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As I was saying, removing faucet completely is a bad move, totally going to lose like half of the players you currently have to sites that still offer faucets.
Simple solution: Active members faucets remain the same, new comers have 1-2 claims per day so they are allowed to "test" the site, tell support to deal with the emails because that's their job, that's what they get paid to do. Not like they are urgently replying to emails anyway.
Just my 2 cents.
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MICRO
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October 12, 2014, 10:28:02 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. o ya forgot about that And as i said it was to subjective . We could give it to anybody who doesn't deserve it , or not give to somebody that deserves it but we don't like him. It wasn't good system.
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hee-ho.
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October 12, 2014, 10:35:13 PM |
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There probably are plenty of best case scenarios but the faucet is what causes the majority of spam on the website and account level farming/sales. How about an alternative that still rewards leveling up but in a less spammy and more difficult to game way?
ok this might sound a bit ridiculous, but bear with me. how about implementing a new feature called faucet points or something like that, 1 point for 1 faucet. we get 1 point for every 50k (or something) that we gambled starting from 1btc (or something). there you go
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Anony
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October 12, 2014, 11:22:35 PM |
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Don't sacrifice the players enjoyment over "I can't read all these damn emails!!!".
Is adding more support an option? One who only deals with faucet/chat/stupid problems. I will volunteer.
Yeah seriously, isn't it their job in the first place to deal with all the emails anyway? I would assume they get paid? Mods deal with the exact same thing as support only without pay, and I don't see any of them complaining.
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danksheeet
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October 12, 2014, 11:33:59 PM |
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ok then what about "support tickets" like you open a support ticket on the site and provide your email to them to respond to. and just have it set up with a required subject field with a dropbox of options like "missing deposit" "faucet" "missing cashout" "other" so that way support could filter out all the emails about faucet
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Reynaldo
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October 12, 2014, 11:35:18 PM |
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I could contribute with the support emails..
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galbros
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October 12, 2014, 11:38:41 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. What about making it not be a permanent whitelist? If mods see accounts sold (and you think that is an abuse) or you think they are botters take them off the whitelist? I'm actually amazed more accounts are not sold, but that is a different issue. We keep coming back to the problem that it is not the faucet per se but the abuse of it. Sure a whitelist may be subjective, so what, there is no substitute for human judgement. Use that to stop abuse, especially since abuse is so hard to define in advance. I think you've taken a lot of intermediate steps that have improved things and I'm all for a "less spammy and gameable" system, maybe you'll get a better discussion on here if you layout some specific ideas? Set up a cool poll or something. I think this is a hard thing though, if any system like that was obvious you or some other dice operator would have tried it already. Thanks again for discussing it and for PrimeDice!
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ttman
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October 12, 2014, 11:43:26 PM |
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I think faucet should remain to prevent disappointment & unhappiness of the Majority . As from my POV . more & more so call " freeloaders & beggars " including spam chat "bot" are increasing in the chat community even tho without faucet , due to generous & huge amount of tippings "rains" going on either by other users & your "Mod" . My suggestions : 1) tips at min 10k (as b4) , due to current tips 50k above most "beggars" gets the tip & withdraw . 2) min 1 deposit from user 3) min withdrawal set 0.005 ~ 0.01 4) tips from users ( voluntary ) to funding foundation *** set a user name for it
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hee-ho.
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October 12, 2014, 11:54:35 PM |
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decreasing the minimum tip to 10k will increase the site's expenses...
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Anony
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October 13, 2014, 12:04:13 AM |
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Another thing that could help out with faucet, is to allow users to contribute to faucet funds. Allow us to tip "faucet" when we are up, it would lower your costs on faucet.
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Stunna (OP)
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October 13, 2014, 12:05:53 AM |
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Don't sacrifice the players enjoyment over "I can't read all these damn emails!!!".
Is adding more support an option? One who only deals with faucet/chat/stupid problems. I will volunteer.
I'm not looking for either extra help or sympathy. It's annoying but not a massive deal to get 50+ emails a day simply from people complaining about having lost free money. If this is the type of community the faucet will encourage that is my principle concern though. The cost is no longer a major issue either as it was prior. I'm sure the people who actually claim the faucet would prefer something different to take its place as well provided the reward was still equal. Still looking for suggestions on that.
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Anony
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October 13, 2014, 12:12:07 AM |
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Don't sacrifice the players enjoyment over "I can't read all these damn emails!!!".
Is adding more support an option? One who only deals with faucet/chat/stupid problems. I will volunteer.
I'm not looking for either extra help or sympathy. It's annoying but not a massive deal to get 50+ emails a day simply from people complaining about having lost free money. If this is the type of community the faucet will encourage that is my principle concern though. The cost is no longer a major issue either as it was prior. I'm sure the people who actually claim the faucet would prefer something different to take its place as well provided the reward was still equal. Still looking for suggestions on that. Is that not supports job though? I understand that yeah it's annoying as hell to read basically the same email from multiple members complaining about losing their free money, but you're going to deal with that no matter what decision you make honestly. If you remove it the emails will switch from "my faucet was lowered, why?? D:" to "I now hate your site for not having a faucet, you are dumb for removing it. Me and everyone I know will now move to this other site because they still offer faucet." You are running a multi million dollar "company" there will always be someone who is unhappy with something you are doing, its inevitable.
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danksheeet
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October 13, 2014, 12:20:42 AM Last edit: October 13, 2014, 04:19:54 AM by danksheeet |
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Don't sacrifice the players enjoyment over "I can't read all these damn emails!!!".
Is adding more support an option? One who only deals with faucet/chat/stupid problems. I will volunteer.
I'm not looking for either extra help or sympathy. It's annoying but not a massive deal to get 50+ emails a day simply from people complaining about having lost free money. If this is the type of community the faucet will encourage that is my principle concern though. The cost is no longer a major issue either as it was prior. I'm sure the people who actually claim the faucet would prefer something different to take its place as well provided the reward was still equal. Still looking for suggestions on that. -different color chat usernames you unlock depending on your lvl -house edge lowers the higher lvl you are -get a certain % back of your losses if your negative and have the % you get back depends on your lvl -0 confirm deposits for higher lvl members -you could limit chat to like 1 msg per 10 seconds and remove a second from that limit every lvl you go up -no cashout fee once you hit a certain level
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