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October 13, 2014, 12:30:26 AM |
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honestly im not much of a gambler in fact I only have .0105 btc to my name. This faucet needs to stay for amusement and to help people that don't have much extra income to spend on bitcoin.
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October 13, 2014, 12:39:59 AM |
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Don't sacrifice the players enjoyment over "I can't read all these damn emails!!!".
Is adding more support an option? One who only deals with faucet/chat/stupid problems. I will volunteer.
I'm not looking for either extra help or sympathy. It's annoying but not a massive deal to get 50+ emails a day simply from people complaining about having lost free money. If this is the type of community the faucet will encourage that is my principle concern though. The cost is no longer a major issue either as it was prior. I'm sure the people who actually claim the faucet would prefer something different to take its place as well provided the reward was still equal. Still looking for suggestions on that. You could just hire a regular CSR to deal with emails @ minimum wage. Assuming they aren't completely overwhelmed by 200 emails a day, they probably have time to continue on as the sole CSR as PD continues to grow, even if you are fostering a non-paying community (who may have value just in talking about PD every now and then, or being more receptive to ways they can advertise it now that they've vetted it). Hi, Stunna. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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October 13, 2014, 01:43:11 AM |
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I'm sure the people who actually claim the faucet would prefer something different to take its place as well provided the reward was still equal. Still looking for suggestions on that.
I still think the faucet is necessary, but throwing some suggestion around won't hurt... here's some of my suggestions with their cons (in my opinion, anyway), they are ridiculous as usual. 1. the only thing that I can think as an "equal" to faucet is rakeback. but it'll lost the one important feature that faucet has, helping newcomers get used to the site. 2. a level-based tip rains is also equal. but there's a big problem with that (alts, acc selling, and maybe some more) 3. you can also reward users for getting achievements and leveling up, that will reduce the account selling problem; but it'll make the chat spammy unless you remove the chat achievements. there you go, now I can sleep in peace
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October 13, 2014, 02:00:16 AM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. you can just delist them if it happens again
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October 13, 2014, 02:04:20 AM |
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I'm pondering the removal of the faucet more seriously now, the cost of it has significantly decreased but the incredible amount of support emails that center around the faucet itself or amounts under 0.0005 from faucet bettors along with a much larger userbase has decreased the quality of the support we can offer severely. Many argue that it must be removed as it lowers the quality of the chat and community as well.
What are the thoughts of everyone and if faucet is removed what should levels be used for?
Thanks
its simple stunna, if u wager 2 or 3 bitcoins, u can use the faucet and also im this is your first week on primedice
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October 13, 2014, 02:05:45 AM |
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I'm pretty sure this is a textbook example of irresponsible advertising. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlHq4DDl.jpg&t=665&c=HMhnZBfVGLN2-w) Nope, we definitely had that ad made unfortunately. Obviously this is in extreme poor taste, and will be swapped out ASAP. I take full responsibility for that super unethical ad given my lack of involvement in marketing lately. I will be more involved in what limited marketing we do from now on and something like this won't happen again. Sorry guys There really is nothing wrong with it, trading and gambling is the same thing And this was the only ad i didn't block ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . hey micro, remember a while back when i was trying to rent my signature to you to say that you are the best mod in the world but u said my sig space was too small?how about you making an offer now, im a jr.member Its still to small ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . When u get to Full member we can negotiate ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . another month or so i guess
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October 13, 2014, 02:08:05 AM |
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I have messaged stunna countless times since months now to IP ban me from he's website as I have a some how sort of addiction to the game. Whenever I get bitcoins, I usually lose them to he's site and all he does is ignore the request.
I feel that this is extremely imature and that a gambling website should not treat their customers like this, he talks all about playing fair and everything but when a customer can't control he's self and its behind the scenes from the public. He doesn't give a shit basically if you lose, just ip ban me already jezus.
If you use Linux or a Mac, run this command: sudo bash -c "echo \"127.0.0.1 primedice.com\" >> /etc/hosts" Stunna hates what you do that shit, and will instant ban you. In Windows, the file is at c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.txt open it as an admin and append the line: and Stunna's wrath will be instant and permanent Honestly, we don't keep persistent track of IP's nor do we have an easy mechanism to ban IP's. Please take steps to ban yourself from the website. I can lock your account if you wish. is this guy asking to be banned?
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October 13, 2014, 02:14:07 AM |
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I have messaged stunna countless times since months now to IP ban me from he's website as I have a some how sort of addiction to the game. Whenever I get bitcoins, I usually lose them to he's site and all he does is ignore the request.
I feel that this is extremely imature and that a gambling website should not treat their customers like this, he talks all about playing fair and everything but when a customer can't control he's self and its behind the scenes from the public. He doesn't give a shit basically if you lose, just ip ban me already jezus.
If you use Linux or a Mac, run this command: sudo bash -c "echo \"127.0.0.1 primedice.com\" >> /etc/hosts" Stunna hates what you do that shit, and will instant ban you. In Windows, the file is at c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.txt open it as an admin and append the line: and Stunna's wrath will be instant and permanent Honestly, we don't keep persistent track of IP's nor do we have an easy mechanism to ban IP's. Please take steps to ban yourself from the website. I can lock your account if you wish. is this guy asking to be banned? seems like it.
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October 13, 2014, 02:31:40 AM |
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I think one way to address this problem would be to limit the faucet to accounts with <0 profit. It would cut down on the support emails by simply cutting down on the amount of people who have access to the faucet.
Unlike PD2, PD3 does not count faucet claims against your profit, so a new account would be allowed to use the faucet as much as they want until they cashout (or tip away the profits) for the first time. After this, however, they could only play with deposits, as their profit would be over 0. To access the faucet multiple times, which is the group who clogs up support with unnecessary emails, you would either need to lose the coins yourself or buy an account with negative profit. People who use the faucet solely to try and make the minimum cashout to gain a profit are unlikely to intentionally lose coins, since that would be counterproductive, leaving the faucet free for those who use it "normally". Once again, as with PD2, there is the issue of account selling, however, using this system, the house could never lose more to botters than the amount the accounts themselves had already lost to the house, leaving a sold account at worst as a 0 profit to the house, never negative. You also already mentioned that the motives for removing the faucet were not economic ones, but more related to customer service and the atmosphere of the chat, so this should not be a concern anyway. I doubt botters are going to be emailing support anyway, since they don't want to draw attention to themselves.
Finally, you claim that the faucet reduces the quality of the chat, while I believe the reverse to be true. Removing the faucet entirely would have a strong adverse affect on the chat, since it would cause people to beg from others much more, since other players would now be their only source of free btc.
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October 13, 2014, 04:58:00 AM |
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Seems like most would agree with my suggestions but dont bother reading ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 13, 2014, 05:01:03 AM |
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anyone pvp 0.5 - 15 btc bets?
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October 13, 2014, 05:07:44 AM |
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You should make suggestion box email. Where people ship their ideas. So they won't collaborate with other idiotic opinions.
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October 13, 2014, 05:16:56 AM |
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Seems like most would agree with my suggestions but dont bother reading ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think you wrote too many words for most people to read. People have short attention spans. Your suggestions seem to be: * give faucet to people only if they deposit * give faucet to people only on Sunday I don't think either helps. The faucet's primary purpose seems to be to attract new players and give them a way of testing the site before depositing. If you require a deposit, or make them wait until Sunday, you probably lose them. If you don't, then how do you prevent people farming it? Basically there's no way of telling the difference between 100 curious newbies who might become good customers if you let them have a few free bits and a single botter who is cynically taking your bits with no intention of playing. So you're stuck with either eating the cost, or removing the faucet. If I missed anything in your post, please point it out.
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October 13, 2014, 07:18:58 AM |
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stunna i would get rid of faucet. or if you keep, only to people who deposit.
soon you will have a chat room filled with underage teenagers begging for spare change
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October 13, 2014, 07:52:13 AM |
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why can't i enter the site?
sometimes, initial windows is " loding the world most ......" . i can't enter the site??
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October 13, 2014, 08:09:03 AM |
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why can't i enter the site?
sometimes, initial windows is " loding the world most ......" . i can't enter the site??
use chrome and update it into final version
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October 13, 2014, 08:10:07 AM |
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Do you have a lite version of the website? Currently its hard to run bot to set bets and click on the buttons.
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October 13, 2014, 09:38:27 AM |
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why can't i enter the site?
sometimes, initial windows is " loding the world most ......" . i can't enter the site??
Use this link https://primedice.com/play or link in my signature.
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October 13, 2014, 11:09:55 AM |
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I don't think either helps. The faucet's primary purpose seems to be to attract new players and give them a way of testing the site before depositing.
If you require a deposit, or make them wait until Sunday, you probably lose them.
dooglus makes some good points. The faucet is definitly a big draw for the site as newbs love to get some free coins to play with and it can entice them into gambling, but obviously the botting is a problem that's going to have to be solved somehow, but I can offer no solution to that. Maybe there isn't one as people will always find a way to abuse something like this.
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October 13, 2014, 11:20:53 AM |
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blame it on the bots, make many accounts and use faucet to lvl up after reaching a certain lvl sell the account. its an easy money
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