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August 21, 2017, 05:00:48 PM
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I'd like to ask owners of rx 570 4gb. anyone has tested beta drivers on higher DAG epoch like #180?

I doubt wether mount 2 rx 570 rigs or one with gtx 1070

because rx 570 are 4gb model and maybe in future it will be too low to mine anything...

which would be your recommendation?

thanks in advance

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2092279.msg20905036#msg20905036

The Dag size is not an issue for 4GB cards. Even 3GB cards will be OK until November 2018 and the Dag size won't reach 4GB until something like 2020. ETH will move to POS long before that.
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August 21, 2017, 05:29:22 PM
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The official AMD blockchain driver for windows 7 x64 does not work (miners crash).
The leaked driver from robinh00d works but nothing can undervolt my RX570's, only OverdriveNTool  works for a few seconds before reverting.

The solution that worked best is to use the leaked driver and the wattman from the official driver:

1.  Install the official amd driver with amd settings
2.  Without reboot install the leaked driver via device manager by going the "i have a disk" route (for all cards - one by one)
3.  If you have a modified bios, run atikmdag-patcher and reboot 
4.   Use wattman to apply your mem clock and volt settings
5. Open miner, everything will be ok except undervolt, now with miner running make a small change to wattman and reapply (for each card one by one)

The voltages appear to be sticking for as long as the miner is running , except for the main card that reverts occasionally.
 



everything is works now. except the power with eth+SC almost sucks 140W.



Using OverdriveNTool from here: https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/overdriventool-tool-for-amd-polaris-gpus.416116
you can disable all power states except P7 for gpu and P2 for memory, that way the undervolt will be retained since gpu will always be at the highest performance state
and never throttle down.
The cards will consume more power when idle that way but for a mining ring that is irrelevant. 
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August 21, 2017, 05:40:54 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2092279.msg20905036#msg20905036

The Dag size is not an issue for 4GB cards. Even 3GB cards will be OK until November 2018 and the Dag size won't reach 4GB until something like 2020. ETH will move to POS long before that.
Only Dual mining is problem with 3GB.

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August 21, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
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Has anyone gotten the Afterburner 4.4.4 beta version to work with the blockchain driver? I find that wattman to be a pain when tweaking OC settings because crashes always reset all the settings for each and all GPUs. Any advise will be appreciated.

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August 21, 2017, 07:46:40 PM
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Tryid it on 280x
Got 12-13mh per one(8.1x64, cm9.Cool...nothing change from 15.12 driver. Stupid amd didn't applied their fix to truly good cards Sad

 It didn't change because the R9 280x didn't suffer from the issue that the driver was intended to fix.
 The 280x was never a "truely good" ETH card in the first place - that was the 290 and to a lesser degree the 290x.

 Tahiti is arguably the best performance/price ratio for FP64 anyone ever released, but ETH doesn't use floating point....


The 7970/280x was actually very good at ETH only at the beginning. With DaggerCoins at Epoch #0 or #1 or so it can get like 28MH/s. And a year ago you could of found them on Craigslist for $100 second hand. The R9 290 while it was a little faster was always expensive to buy because it had high demand for gamers and was hard to find for less than $200. So the 280x was a better choice if it wasn't for the DAG bug.

 R9 290 wasn't hard to find at under $200 a year ago - MUCH under, yes, mine were $179 from NewEgg when I bought them last spring (Sapphire reference design, I think they were factory refurb cards).
 It's going to be an academic point in a few months though since the R9 280x is a 3GB card (I don't think anyone made them with a different memory capacity, but I MIGHT have missed a model somewhere).

 I don't remember ever seeing a R9 280x for $100 or less on craigslist, but I do remember seeing some in the $120-$140 range so I wouldn't be shocked if they were less in other locations at times - especially in or near large cities with more competition and more supply of used parts for sale.


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August 21, 2017, 08:59:46 PM
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Hi,

I have faced issues after upgrading/updating to the blockchain driver. I am suspecting 1 of my gpus might be bricked.

I have 4x identical powercolor rx 580 8gbs, they were running around 64C+- degrees. After the blockchain driver one of the gpus started functioning unstable.

After trying many things I have realized that power draw of this card is lowering down to 80w sometimes 40w and back to 110w as it should be. so the graph is up and down all the way. Normally gpu only power draw for each card is 110w, as the others run and draw constantly.

So there is something wrong with this cards, heat is higher than the others, power draw is unstable and it causes watchdog gpu hang error.

What do you guys think might be the issue with this card?
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August 21, 2017, 09:02:20 PM
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I went back to the old drivers.  Without undervolt tools this has to be changed in Bios which is a pain and hard to edit on the fly.   It will be worth it when the DAG becomes a bigger issue, but not right now.

It's really surprising how many people think this is great though.  You should really undervolt...
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August 21, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
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I went back to the old drivers.  Without undervolt tools this has to be changed in Bios which is a pain and hard to edit on the fly.   It will be worth it when the DAG becomes a bigger issue, but not right now.

It's really surprising how many people think this is great though.  You should really undervolt...

I have undervolted my cards from bios as I have faced the issue like most people with latest driver. Reverting back to previous driver does not change anything. I still have 1 card functioning unstable. I am afraid it might be related to hardware issue
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August 21, 2017, 11:06:14 PM
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windows 7 don't work on official drivers (black skreen), but work on robinh00d drivers. watttools don't work, new version msi AB is work. Heshrate good, more, than standart drivers on 4-5%. and in the future it's more. But without wattols is shit - energy consumption is very hight
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August 21, 2017, 11:31:22 PM
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Tryid it on 280x
Got 12-13mh per one(8.1x64, cm9.Cool...nothing change from 15.12 driver. Stupid amd didn't applied their fix to truly good cards Sad

 It didn't change because the R9 280x didn't suffer from the issue that the driver was intended to fix.
 The 280x was never a "truely good" ETH card in the first place - that was the 290 and to a lesser degree the 290x.

 Tahiti is arguably the best performance/price ratio for FP64 anyone ever released, but ETH doesn't use floating point....


The 7970/280x was actually very good at ETH only at the beginning. With DaggerCoins at Epoch #0 or #1 or so it can get like 28MH/s. And a year ago you could of found them on Craigslist for $100 second hand. The R9 290 while it was a little faster was always expensive to buy because it had high demand for gamers and was hard to find for less than $200. So the 280x was a better choice if it wasn't for the DAG bug.

 R9 290 wasn't hard to find at under $200 a year ago - MUCH under, yes, mine were $179 from NewEgg when I bought them last spring (Sapphire reference design, I think they were factory refurb cards).
 It's going to be an academic point in a few months though since the R9 280x is a 3GB card (I don't think anyone made them with a different memory capacity, but I MIGHT have missed a model somewhere).

 I don't remember ever seeing a R9 280x for $100 or less on craigslist, but I do remember seeing some in the $120-$140 range so I wouldn't be shocked if they were less in other locations at times - especially in or near large cities with more competition and more supply of used parts for sale.



Maybe in your area you had better luck but I also got them refurbished from NewEgg last year and it was the best deal out of anything I found on Craigslist. On Craigslist alone it was at least >$200 and they were rare and hard to come by. I think since they were flagship models they were made in smaller quantities than the Tahiti.

The Tahiti were flooded on Craigslist, probably due to Litecoin mining days as I found that almost 50% of the ones I bought off Craigslist were mined at some point in their life.





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August 22, 2017, 02:16:40 AM
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new version Crimson ReLive Edition 17.8.1, who will test it?
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August 22, 2017, 03:48:00 AM
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I'd like to ask owners of rx 570 4gb. anyone has tested beta drivers on higher DAG epoch like #180?

I doubt wether mount 2 rx 570 rigs or one with gtx 1070

because rx 570 are 4gb model and maybe in future it will be too low to mine anything...

which would be your recommendation?

thanks in advance

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2092279.msg20905036#msg20905036

The Dag size is not an issue for 4GB cards. Even 3GB cards will be OK until November 2018 and the Dag size won't reach 4GB until something like 2020. ETH will move to POS long before that.

Thanks man I was worried about the dag difficulty, knowing this I might consider the 1060 6gb because the rx 580 8gb are hard to find and expensive.

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August 22, 2017, 07:33:53 AM
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Hi guys,
today I've installed a new card, re-installed driver and started miner.

Here is what I've seen:
http://imgur.com/Vu39VGJ

It looks like that new drivers simply emulate the dag 128 and by this way miner gives high hashrate.
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August 22, 2017, 07:38:49 AM
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Hi guys,
today I've installed a new card, re-installed driver and started miner.

Here is what I've seen:


It looks like that new drivers simply emulate the dag 128 and by this way miner gives high hashrate.

Is that screen shot for ants to read?  Are you telling us about the DAG fixed drivers we already know about?   Huh
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August 22, 2017, 07:48:11 AM
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Hi guys,
today I've installed a new card, re-installed driver and started miner.

Here is what I've seen:
https://thumb.ibb.co/fFUvCQ/Untitled_1.jpg

It looks like that new drivers simply emulate the dag 128 and by this way miner gives high hashrate.

Is that screen shot for ants to read?  Are you telling us about the DAG fixed drivers we already know about?   Huh

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The link was updated.

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August 22, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
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Has anyone gotten the Afterburner 4.4.4 beta version to work with the blockchain driver? I find that wattman to be a pain when tweaking OC settings because crashes always reset all the settings for each and all GPUs. Any advise will be appreciated.

I have installed Afterburner 4.4 beta 16 with the blockchain driver and my rig is still stable after 48 hrs. Do not alter the wattman mclock and cclock settings, only use Afterburner to find the stable mclock and cclock settings for each GPU. I also re-installed windows 10 and disabled windows updates and windows defender.
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August 22, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
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Hi guys,
today I've installed a new card, re-installed driver and started miner.

Here is what I've seen:
http://imgur.com/Vu39VGJ

It looks like that new drivers simply emulate the dag 128 and by this way miner gives high hashrate.

Hi,

what cards do you have?
Is the mh/s stable or bouncing?

Thank you.
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August 22, 2017, 10:41:52 AM
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Hi, first post.

I waste a such of hours trying to install on W7 without results (claymore crash)

Finally i decided install on W10 and with my Rx570 got a bouncing 28 eth and 700 dcr.


-Rx 570 Asus Strixx 4GB
--Straps 1:1500->1:2000 // 2:1500->2:2000
--Mem. Elpida
--Mem. clock 1950 mhz
--Core clock 1100 mhz
--Power draw 150w avg  Cry

So, the drivers almost works, the power draw and the bouncing its a problem, but my eth avg increase in almost 2 mh/s in comparation with W7 and lasted drivers, and the electricity in my country is pretty cheap, like 0.03 usd per k/w. So i will use this drivers for now.
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August 22, 2017, 10:45:42 AM
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Hi,

I have faced issues after upgrading/updating to the blockchain driver. I am suspecting 1 of my gpus might be bricked.

I have 4x identical powercolor rx 580 8gbs, they were running around 64C+- degrees. After the blockchain driver one of the gpus started functioning unstable.

After trying many things I have realized that power draw of this card is lowering down to 80w sometimes 40w and back to 110w as it should be. so the graph is up and down all the way. Normally gpu only power draw for each card is 110w, as the others run and draw constantly.

So there is something wrong with this cards, heat is higher than the others, power draw is unstable and it causes watchdog gpu hang error.

What do you guys think might be the issue with this card?

I have the same issue with a MSI Gaming X 4G. It heats up too quickly and the fan does not ramp it up. Afterburner beta will control it only when it is open but it crashed the computer after a few minutes. Wattman crashes after 20 minutes. I haven't tried claymore controlling the fan yet.
The only way to make it work is put a big fan in front of it so the fan doesn't do anything.
If anyone has ideas I'm open to trying.

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August 22, 2017, 01:44:05 PM
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Hi, first post.

I waste a such of hours trying to install on W7 without results (claymore crash)

Finally i decided install on W10 and with my Rx570 got a bouncing 28 eth and 700 dcr.


-Rx 570 Asus Strixx 4GB
--Straps 1:1500->1:2000 // 2:1500->2:2000
--Mem. Elpida
--Mem. clock 1950 mhz
--Core clock 1100 mhz
--Power draw 150w avg  Cry

So, the drivers almost works, the power draw and the bouncing its a problem, but my eth avg increase in almost 2 mh/s in comparation with W7 and lasted drivers, and the electricity in my country is pretty cheap, like 0.03 usd per k/w. So i will use this drivers for now.
Not a good bios mod! You can undervolt in bios, I've showed how in the guide, link in my signature. Then you can undervolt more in AB. 1100MHz should be like 800-850mV even less.

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