Baikal Giant X10

[Longsnowsm]

Where is this info coming from about more algo's on the X10?  Baikal never promised additional algo's beyond the 5 so I am wondering where everyone is hearing this from. 

https://twitter.com/baikalminer/status/983943280009273345

Thank you for the link.  I wasn't aware they had mentioned more algo's for this miner. 

[tomwrx]

Where is this info coming from about more algo's on the X10?  Baikal never promised additional algo's beyond the 5 so I am wondering where everyone is hearing this from. 

https://twitter.com/baikalminer/status/983943280009273345

Thank you for the link.  I wasn't aware they had mentioned more algo's for this miner. 

Well they mentioned more algo's, but it doesn't mean they are going to release those algo's for x10. Maybe it's only marketing to push declining sales for x10, as miner becoming older and older. Also if they release one or two new algo's, don't expect a good profit or big gains. Will be the same situation like with nist5 and x11ghost...

[MiCoSa]

About CE Certificate:

I got a reply from baikal, they told me they do have now CE-Labels and Certificate. I asked them to send me one but they refuse, I already have some X10‘s which they can confirm.
They only send it out with the tracking number.

I don’t know why? Anybody can confirm getting these and can upload one example (hide your details if there are some).
I don’t know if they just say it to force customers to buy it or if there is a serialnumber thing about this? I really don’t know.

Please tell me what you think about this. CE Certificates/Labels are pretty necessary to get it into EU.
Maybe you are lucky and it got through but what about next products.
For me I want to know, otherwise it could be costly play in the future.

Thx

I agree with MiCoSa, I don't think they have a CE certification.
Maybe they have CE label, but it's "China Export" instead, similar to European CE label, but nothing to do with that.

Well i probably think the same way, but how do reseller get them. I had contact with people selling 30 or more units in Germany.
That’s strange and does not make sense, this was end last year / early this year.

If you are lucky and customs dont look exactly, you will get them. If you are not -> No Money and no Miners

[xxmetalmartyrxx]

According to Nicehash the x10 is making 12$/day. Isn't that good? That's an ROI of 4-5 months.

[Selector79]

According to Nicehash the x10 is making 12$/day. Isn't that good? That's an ROI of 4-5 months.

If the coin prices stay the same and no new miner go to net and shot difficulty to the moon, you can earn about 0.0015 btc now.
In Januar it was 0,007 BTC a day.

All market goes down.

DGB want to change algos.  Sibcoin the same.  Verge is dropped.

What do you want to mine next month?

And if more new X10 goes to net, how much will you earn next month?

Think about, before order new X10!   

There is no guarantee that you reach the ROI and that you will earn next month like today.

[Luminaryxi]

is true that x10 gonna be able to mine skunk and keccak?  :

[KaydenC]

According to Nicehash the x10 is making 12$/day. Isn't that good? That's an ROI of 4-5 months.

Indeed it's 4-5 months ROI if things hold. Major risk is asics coming for any of the X10 algos. To my understanding X10 is fpga, it's possible to get 10x speedup with asics.

Another risk is coins switching algorithm.

Nothing risked nothing gained though. Imo just be diversified, have some x10s, some innosilicon a5s, gpus, etc.

[Goool]

According to Nicehash the x10 is making 12$/day. Isn't that good? That's an ROI of 4-5 months.

If the coin prices stay the same and no new miner go to net and shot difficulty to the moon, you can earn about 0.0015 btc now.
In Januar it was 0,007 BTC a day.

All market goes down.

DGB want to change algos.  Sibcoin the same.  Verge is dropped.

What do you want to mine next month?

And if more new X10 goes to net, how much will you earn next month?

Think about, before order new X10!  

There is no guarantee that you reach the ROI and that you will earn next month like today.

-Verge had a halving that why is not so profitable ...as a newbie that you are google 'halving' to understand.
- I thought you knew that BAIKAL is cheating with custom papers and CE ... TAX Fraud at 100% .. IF they proper check what you import then goodbye product + tickets and jail (in some countries)
- The new algos for x10 are filling BAIKAL's wallets first and when the sales will be close to zero they will give them to the public
- You should be lucky if in 1 month from now you can make $5-7 with the X10 BAIKAL

BAIKAL what happened with your high tech miners : BAIKAL B , BAIKAL-N , BAIKAL-N+ ?? This is what's happening when you overprice 10x your products.
WHEN YOU RELEASED YOUR FIRST MINER 'BAIKAL MINI' you was respecting the clients and your dream was to help crypto + technology + the environment with low consumption miner .... now the goal is to fill your wallets. 

[tomwrx]

Baikal x10 is not fpga. It's just has programed algo's in chips. Baikal releases new software and it unlocks those programmed algos. All planed algo's were already in a chips before releasing batch1. They just introduce algorithms step by step with releasing software with needed changes.

[bittawm]

Baikal x10 is not fpga. It's just has programed algo's in chips. Baikal releases new software and it unlocks those programmed algos. All planed algo's were already in a chips before releasing batch1. They just introduce algorithms step by step with releasing software with needed changes.

correct, asic chips not fpga

[bitcoinexplorer]

Baikal x10 is not fpga. It's just has programed algo's in chips. Baikal releases new software and it unlocks those programmed algos. All planed algo's were already in a chips before releasing batch1. They just introduce algorithms step by step with releasing software with needed changes.

Good analysis, what you think are the remaining 3 algos?

[rogerthat55]

Baikal x10 is not fpga. It's just has programed algo's in chips. Baikal releases new software and it unlocks those programmed algos. All planed algo's were already in a chips before releasing batch1. They just introduce algorithms step by step with releasing software with needed changes.

Good analysis, what you think are the remaining 3 algos?

I'm pretty sure Groestl is at least one of them.

[Rhamon]

Hmm.. all this things about customs and CE-Labels.

I don‘t know if it would be a good idea to buy again from them. Maybe if a new product will come one day.

It worked all good for me but to hear these things are really bad. Probably they destroy it and your money is lost??

[Longsnowsm]

If the BK-X is not an FPGA miner then why would Baikal ask customers which algo's they wanted to see next?  If the algo's are already baked into the hardware they should have said "which of the following do you want to see released next".  Not a wish list of algo's you want to see. 

[bitcoinexplorer]

As far as i have seen baikal delivers what they commit

[cryptonitro]

If the BK-X is not an FPGA miner then why would Baikal ask customers which algo's they wanted to see next?  If the algo's are already baked into the hardware they should have said "which of the following do you want to see released next".  Not a wish list of algo's you want to see.  

where did you see , they ask that ?

If i can choose , in this range of H/s (5gh ~10gh) , without hesitations, the best are phi1612 and Timetravel10

But as Lux ever pretenting can fork , even against FPGA, think it's pretentious but probably they dont want fpga and asic. so may be skunkhash instead of phi1612

[Longsnowsm]

If the BK-X is not an FPGA miner then why would Baikal ask customers which algo's they wanted to see next?  If the algo's are already baked into the hardware they should have said "which of the following do you want to see released next".  Not a wish list of algo's you want to see.  

where did you see , they ask that ?

If i can choose , in this range of H/s (5gh ~10gh) , without hesitations, the best are phi1612 and Timetravel10

But as Lux ever pretenting can fork , even against FPGA, think it's pretentious but probably they dont want fpga and asic. so may be skunkhash instead of phi1612

Quite some time back Baikal posted this question about what algo's we wanted supported next.  You wouldn't expect them to ask us what we wanted and vote on it if it were already baked into the chips.  I am sure someone will dig up that post where they asked us. 

[cryptonitro]

If the BK-X is not an FPGA miner then why would Baikal ask customers which algo's they wanted to see next?  If the algo's are already baked into the hardware they should have said "which of the following do you want to see released next".  Not a wish list of algo's you want to see.  

where did you see , they ask that ?

If i can choose , in this range of H/s (5gh ~10gh) , without hesitations, the best are phi1612 and Timetravel10

But as Lux ever pretenting can fork , even against FPGA, think it's pretentious but probably they dont want fpga and asic. so may be skunkhash instead of phi1612

Quite some time back Baikal posted this question about what algo's we wanted supported next.  You wouldn't expect them to ask us what we wanted and vote on it if it were already baked into the chips.  I am sure someone will dig up that post where they asked us. 

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ok i missed that, will see , i think long time will go before we see new algos.
Is your L3+ run fine in oil ?

[tomwrx]

If the BK-X is not an FPGA miner then why would Baikal ask customers which algo's they wanted to see next?  If the algo's are already baked into the hardware they should have said "which of the following do you want to see released next".  Not a wish list of algo's you want to see.  

where did you see , they ask that ?

If i can choose , in this range of H/s (5gh ~10gh) , without hesitations, the best are phi1612 and Timetravel10

But as Lux ever pretenting can fork , even against FPGA, think it's pretentious but probably they dont want fpga and asic. so may be skunkhash instead of phi1612

Quite some time back Baikal posted this question about what algo's we wanted supported next.  You wouldn't expect them to ask us what we wanted and vote on it if it were already baked into the chips.  I am sure someone will dig up that post where they asked us. 

Yes, I remember they asked about algo's. It was before shipping batch1, in September - October. So maybe they were just playing nice or programing of x10 has not been done at that time. The known algo is Groestl. I remember in another thread there was information which algo's were found in baikal software, but know don't remember were there more algo's despite nist5, groestl and x11ghost.

[pikachuy]

If the BK-X is not an FPGA miner then why would Baikal ask customers which algo's they wanted to see next?  If the algo's are already baked into the hardware they should have said "which of the following do you want to see released next".  Not a wish list of algo's you want to see.  

where did you see , they ask that ?

If i can choose , in this range of H/s (5gh ~10gh) , without hesitations, the best are phi1612 and Timetravel10

But as Lux ever pretenting can fork , even against FPGA, think it's pretentious but probably they dont want fpga and asic. so may be skunkhash instead of phi1612

Quite some time back Baikal posted this question about what algo's we wanted supported next.  You wouldn't expect them to ask us what we wanted and vote on it if it were already baked into the chips.  I am sure someone will dig up that post where they asked us. 

Yes, I remember they asked about algo's. It was before shipping batch1, in September - October. So maybe they were just playing nice or programing of x10 has not been done at that time. The known algo is Groestl. I remember in another thread there was information which algo's were found in baikal software, but know don't remember were there more algo's despite nist5, groestl and x11ghost.

Found the post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2336088.msg23852562#msg23852562

Would be great if they would accept crypto as payment...

They actually accept crypto for shipping cost...

wondering what the rest two algorithms would be? .... since X13, X14, and X15 are out of option...
Blake 2B? LBRY? X11Gost? Pascal? or NeoScrypt? or Lyra2REv2?

I would prefer Blake 2B, which would be 6 month before Sia ASIC by Sia team... not bad

What two algorithms you guys are perfer to see ?

I'd like to see Blake2s and Lyra2v2! Would support multiple coins that way, and higher market cap coins too. 

will see!
Actually, We have been collecting all feedbacks about algo from customers before a quite long period of time when we are not so busy, we recorded the algo that was mentioned on conversations, sorted them out, and emailed to our boss. So, now, I assume some of guys can see their "algo wishing list"  come true.