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January 23, 2018, 09:23:31 AM |
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Pretty crazy Baikal is charging 7K x 6 miners when return per day has gone down. According to what to mine $45 per day. Then is you factor in Market volatility you may be waiting for ROI for a year or more. Greed is a terrible thing. Maybe Baikal is just trying to cash in.
It's mining much more than that. That is why. No it isn't. At least anymore. Right at this moment getting $80 on nice hash with bitcoin at a lowly $10k. |
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January 23, 2018, 09:25:02 AM |
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it will come down like a stone, rest assured.
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DigitalCruncher
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January 23, 2018, 11:25:57 AM |
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Baikal miners use an FPGA, what makes you think they could run two algo's simultaneously?
Hello everybody. What kind of the FPGA is used in Baikal's Giant products? I have built some FPGA miners that became obsolete after release of the Giant X10. But if Baikal Giant is not true ASIC, it becomes possible to develop alternative FPGA miners for altcoins, as well as to write custom bitstreams. |
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burnsauce
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January 23, 2018, 11:33:25 AM |
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Same here. I am very disapointed from Baikal. ... But 7000$, that is 5 time higher then second batch and more then 6 times higher then first batch. This is just ridicoulous
....It would also not surprise me, if they would sell more and more batches until the device is useless like the Antminer D3.
c'mon guys, I really do not understand why are you all complaining about the price.. 7kUSD is still cheaper than the market price. Why do you expect to get it from them 10 times cheaper than the market price. Do not forget - 1st and 2nd batch were pre-oders with the waiting time of several months(!) and it was completely new unknown product with only 3 algos - so it was also some kind of risk considered in that low price. And again you are contradicting yourself - you want to get it cheap, but on the same time you do not want manufacturer to sell too much of them, like it was with D3. But how manufacturer shall keep his profit target in this case? I find this price fair enough..at least for the existing X10 owners. I got my X10 in the "first batch" from a reseller at $2500. I've been pretty happy with it, and I'm starting to see ROI. That said, there is NO WAY I would buy another one at this stage of the game for as much money as they want now (unless I was going to immediately resell it to some sap), or even $2500 for that matter. No way. At what they are charging now, you are looking at a very tough time to see ROI once these new units come online. As an example: DBG Skien and MG are already down well over 50% in terms of daily payout in a little over a month since I've had the unit (after the second batch came out). While that is still plenty good for me (as my miner has all but paid for itself already), that's definitely not good for someone getting in to the game late (less than half the payout) at more than twice the initial cost. If I had $50,000 to throw around, and thought that the price might stay inflated on ebay, I might consider buying a bunch to flip. I would not intend to mine with them and expect to recoup that cost any time in the near future. To be clear: I'm not complaining at all about the cost. It is what it is for a reason. It's just too high for it to make mathematical sense for me (or anyone, I would argue) to buy more for the purpose of mining. I understand why the price is what it is, though. If my units that I built were suddenly selling for $10,000 on the secondary market (ebay) at a good clip, I'd be pissing money away by not increasing my initial price. |
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tomwrx
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January 23, 2018, 11:52:57 AM |
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Pretty crazy Baikal is charging 7K x 6 miners when return per day has gone down. According to what to mine $45 per day. Then is you factor in Market volatility you may be waiting for ROI for a year or more. Greed is a terrible thing. Maybe Baikal is just trying to cash in.
It's mining much more than that. That is why. No it isn't. At least anymore. Right at this moment getting $80 on nice hash with bitcoin at a lowly $10k. Let's wait till the beginning of February, when majority of batch1 is delivered and let's see the roi then  |
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darkly spectre
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January 23, 2018, 02:03:02 PM |
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Man did you guys know you can see all stats of a miner without logging in just add miner.php behind the ip adress and bam all the info is out there. You can even fucking restart cgminer through it.
The security on these things are horrible
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January 23, 2018, 02:04:13 PM |
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Man did you guys know you can see all stats of a miner without logging in just add miner.php behind the ip adress and bam all the info is out there. You can even fucking restart cgminer through it.
The security on these things are horrible
Why would anyone put them open on the internet? Don't ever forward a port to something like this. Setup a vpn if you need access to your home. |
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XrayHunter7
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January 23, 2018, 04:58:03 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
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kryptolarz
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January 23, 2018, 06:00:40 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
I have the same issue with one of my Giant Bs |
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Truthchanter
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January 23, 2018, 07:30:38 PM |
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What pool are you guys using for verge (groestl algo)?
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January 23, 2018, 07:35:40 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
The same problem. Always another machine out of eight. No solution to the problem yet. |
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Truthchanter
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January 23, 2018, 08:28:58 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
The same problem. Always another machine out of eight. No solution to the problem yet. Reset the power to it to restart it |
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MiCoSa
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January 23, 2018, 08:38:35 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
The same problem. Always another machine out of eight. No solution to the problem yet. Sometimes i have this problem too. So i did buy a WLAN-Socket for each miner. With those i can turn on and off the power of the miners via Smartphone App and restart the miner from anywhere. I also make an automatic restart once a day. |
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Gongolo
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January 23, 2018, 09:05:10 PM |
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What pool are you guys using for verge (groestl algo)?
For Verge/myr-gr, Suprnova. Also Quark at Nicehash looks good. |
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January 23, 2018, 09:07:05 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
The same problem. Always another machine out of eight. No solution to the problem yet. Reset the power to it to restart it i can't understand how nicehash can reward so much on quark |
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Put it all on the line and go for broke
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January 23, 2018, 09:55:17 PM |
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I really like the Baikal Machines but they are really difficult to get. I am seeing pricing for $10,000 USD which is too much for a risk since by the time you get it, the ROI will drop.
Does anyone know if the Baikal can be hacked to mine even more algorithms? I don't know how they do their asics, but they seem multifunctional. Yes, I have googled it. I need someone that is more techsaavy.
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darkly spectre
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January 23, 2018, 10:20:46 PM |
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I really like the Baikal Machines but they are really difficult to get. I am seeing pricing for $10,000 USD which is too much for a risk since by the time you get it, the ROI will drop.
Does anyone know if the Baikal can be hacked to mine even more algorithms? I don't know how they do their asics, but they seem multifunctional. Yes, I have googled it. I need someone that is more techsaavy.
there are people working on stuff for the X10 but nothing really happening. overclocking seems dead since there is hardware on the board limiting the hashrate. we have seen mentions of nist5 and groestl hidden in the firmware but nothing to unlock it these are not ASICs by the way but FGPA. |
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burnsauce
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January 23, 2018, 11:17:39 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
The same problem. Always another machine out of eight. No solution to the problem yet. Reset the power to it to restart it i can't understand how nicehash can reward so much on quark I'm guessing it's from people speculating on some quark-based coin. I think I have an idea which one... |
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January 23, 2018, 11:18:22 PM |
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Can someone help me ? I think some of you guys has same problem. Giant x10 is running - after few days It disconnects from internet and start blinking. Also sometimes I cant acces to web settings. Someone know how to fix this ?
The same problem. Always another machine out of eight. No solution to the problem yet. Sometimes i have this problem too. So i did buy a WLAN-Socket for each miner. With those i can turn on and off the power of the miners via Smartphone App and restart the miner from anywhere. I also make an automatic restart once a day. Can you tell me more about it or maybe send picture ? WLAN-Socket you mean smart plug ? How can I setup automatic restart once a day ? Thanks a lot ! I cant send you PM  |
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senseless
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January 23, 2018, 11:44:09 PM |
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I really like the Baikal Machines but they are really difficult to get. I am seeing pricing for $10,000 USD which is too much for a risk since by the time you get it, the ROI will drop.
Does anyone know if the Baikal can be hacked to mine even more algorithms? I don't know how they do their asics, but they seem multifunctional. Yes, I have googled it. I need someone that is more techsaavy.
there are people working on stuff for the X10 but nothing really happening. overclocking seems dead since there is hardware on the board limiting the hashrate. we have seen mentions of nist5 and groestl hidden in the firmware but nothing to unlock it these are not ASICs by the way but FGPA. xevan or veltor is in there too.. I can't remember off hand which one I saw when I was looking, but one of those 2 is in there as well. |
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