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December 07, 2018, 09:45:01 PM
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important update for all Envion investors

www.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them.

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Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be?
I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely

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December 07, 2018, 10:50:07 PM
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important update for all Envion investors

www.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them.

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It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders).

Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be?
I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely

I hope so 2 but my mainconcern atm is that I(we) get our invested money back whats left of it and making sure the Founders/MW are not claiming any of their tokens to steal our money.
Im sure we  wont get 100% back  the missing funds i guess we can try and sue the Founders and MW for it seems like a lot of Mistakes where made on their side and probably some criminal acts but thats for the lawyers to decide.
I personally will definatly look for legal ways to make them pay other then just giving whats left of the money they stole from us back if that compensation will be in money or jail time for them i dont care to much about.
 


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December 11, 2018, 02:43:46 AM
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has anyone tried this one?
they say they are helping facilitate a refund

https://fintelegram.news/efri-funds-recovery-campaign-envion/?fbclid=IwAR3WuYvawpPSsPi6PdoK5zXf48bSQQiDeg3qTXWoT-ipB1b1q5KZm2walnQ

i also lost my private key do you think i can still refund?
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December 11, 2018, 03:20:12 AM
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important update for all Envion investors

www.envion-konkurs.ch is the officially appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them.

PS:
It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders).

Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be?
I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely

Yes, they raised more than 100 million and it is very bad to know that we don't see any special announcement from the team about their progress. I hope the government will take some legal action towards Envion team.

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December 11, 2018, 08:33:28 AM
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I think we should at least expect that Envion team will return investments to their investors. But we shouldn't even expect that they can pay rewards for bounty hunters.

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December 11, 2018, 10:35:30 AM
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important update for all Envion investors

www.envion-konkurs.ch is the officially appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them.

PS:
It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders).

Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be?
I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely

Yes, they raised more than 100 million and it is very bad to know that we don't see any special announcement from the team about their progress. I hope the government will take some legal action towards Envion team.
It's true that I personally support what you say because the team should announce its progress but until now there has been no announcement and I hope this problem can be resolved

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December 11, 2018, 01:22:09 PM
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Yes, they raised more than 100 million and it is very bad to know that we don't see any special announcement from the team about their progress. I hope the government will take some legal action towards Envion team.
more than $ 100 million USD ?? means that this is a very successful ICO because it managed to collect that much money, but then ended up being a scam project? this is very crazy, they must be punished and return investors' funds

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December 11, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.


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December 11, 2018, 11:30:11 PM
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment
when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down
so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price
is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?

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December 11, 2018, 11:44:58 PM
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment
when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down
so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price
is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?
you are right if their is refunding to the investors then i think crypto investors should not thake back their money or if they refunded then they have to hodl them for atleast for one year.
but still there is no clue that envion team will strict with the project or don't want to work on it right now iof they don't want to work on the project then refund is good.
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December 12, 2018, 01:26:58 AM
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment
when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down
so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price
is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?
you are right if their is refunding to the investors then i think crypto investors should not thake back their money or if they refunded then they have to hodl them for atleast for one year.
but still there is no clue that envion team will strict with the project or don't want to work on it right now iof they don't want to work on the project then refund is good.

Still, we don't have any news from team or from the concerned sources whether they are going to refund or not. There are many people lost hope on this envion team due to no repose from them or update from them.


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December 12, 2018, 07:12:56 AM
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment
when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down
so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price
is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?

I suggest you read up some more in the relevant Telegram channels posted earlier.

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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment
when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down
so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price
is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?
you are right if their is refunding to the investors then i think crypto investors should not thake back their money or if they refunded then they have to hodl them for atleast for one year.
but still there is no clue that envion team will strict with the project or don't want to work on it right now iof they don't want to work on the project then refund is good.

They didn't appeal its being liquidated there is no going on from here .. from here there will be liquidation and after that lawsuits for the founders&Laurent and MW.

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December 12, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
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[...] we won't get any dividends from the Envion team because they scammed the people by showing fake promises to the investors.

Sorry to day that, but the promises from envion were wrong from the start one, the math was wrong. It was calculated as the units were produced instantly - which is impossible. The more money was given to them the lower (!!) the ROI in the first year would've been, because all that money has to be converted into units first. And they were so slow in the process, that they were unable to proof any running units after months have passed.

The failure of envion was obvious in january '18 - at least IMO. Show me otherwise.

It is incredible what happened with Envion. In the middle of Europe, Germany these guys has stolen more than 100 million dollars and there is no any outcome. It is unbelievable. I put a lot of efforts for the bounty and all efforts is just wasted and a lot of investor lost their hard earned money. That is modern organized crime.

Incredible is the right word. Germany and Switzerland, where their company was registered, are supposed to be some of the most honest countries IN THE WORLD and the fact that thieves who have stolen over 100 million dollars are getting away with that instead of rotting now in some prison is simply untollerable. If the judicial system fails to actually deliver justice one cannot be surprised if and when victims end up looking for alternative ways to get justice.
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December 12, 2018, 06:33:15 PM
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment
when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down
so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price
is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?
So if investors get back their investment then they will get little amount of $$.  Tongue
In my opinion there is no chance for envion to stand up again in crypto market.
If we talk about refund then they will refund in btc or eth, let's see when investors will receive refund! we are almost in 2019. 

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December 12, 2018, 06:58:08 PM
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Is there any positive news about refund maybe I missed to read this. There is no chance for this project to make come back it has been marked as big scam. I think they have to make the refund with the same way like people invest in it.
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December 12, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
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So that refund also means if you sold at a loss? Because it is a security token.
If you bought in the ico for 1btc env then bought what was worth $ 20,000 as an example. That with the current value you get about 5 bitcoin $20,000 back?
But if you sold at a loss you have the right to get back the other amount you lost.

Paragon has also heard this in court that they must give back 27mil. It was looked at dollar and that must be paid in crypto at the current value in dollars. even if you had sold at a loss, you got that difference back
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Damn! Things are really messy here, i mean, because of fraudulent act like this that makes people scared of crypto, imagine this terrible act of dishonest on the part of the envion team, a total disregard for investors and supporters of the project, i hope the sec can do their job properly and give this perpetrators what they deserve.
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December 16, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
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important update for all Envion investors

www.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them.

PS:
It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders).

Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be?
I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely

At stake there is here also the credibility of the non-crypto society, tha same folks which breaks the balls all the time for regulating here and regulating there, but then, when it has the duty of persecuting some real and proven cheaters, becomes suddenly very inefficient.

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December 19, 2018, 01:37:33 AM
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Damn! Things are really messy here, i mean, because of fraudulent act like this that makes people scared of crypto, imagine this terrible act of dishonest on the part of the envion team, a total disregard for investors and supporters of the project, i hope the sec can do their job properly and give this perpetrators what they deserve.
this is why sec is making their move and capturing who made fraud with investor through ICOs
envion was big project and its ICOs was good enough. envion team gathered 100 millions in the ICO so defiantly envion team have to answer their participant that what they do with their money or have to refund it.
i agree that big part of crypto community is out due to fraudulent in most ICOs and it impacts on the market very negative

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