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January 15, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
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Trado has shut down all official Envion social media channels (leaving only the own founder channels for full control)
If you are stucked now, left behind without being properly informed then >>>

Join social media channel run by investors. There you will find answers, support and the right steps to protect your investment.

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January 21, 2019, 09:14:53 PM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

Free service why not? there's nothing wrong with trying it if it's free of charge   Cheesy
Or you are willing to pay when the refund is successful

Willing to pay? What are you talking about? I just said i had gave up for ever getting refund. Even if that would be possible it could take 10 years and i don't think i have time for that, and they are probably paying it with fiat money. F that.
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January 23, 2019, 08:33:45 AM
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.


You clearly have no idea what you are talking about please be quiet from now on.

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January 26, 2019, 10:59:43 AM
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Xandan would like to manipulate the masses here (but failed)

REFUND:
Investors will be refunded. That's for sure. There is no way, the money will flow somewhere else.

Some things to be done now by the guys in charge:
1. Liquidator will collect all the data, that is required to get the picture
2. Moneywise, he will make a sure, he has his hands on the pot
3. ICO data... well, let's see if Trado is cooperating
4. Legal considerations: Who will be eligible for refund (Pre-Sale, Founder, ICO Investors, Exchange buyers, ...)
5. Then, finally, let's start counting: Do the math!
6. Distribution of remaining funds
6. Case closed

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January 31, 2019, 11:43:55 PM
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Xandan would like to manipulate the masses here (but failed)

REFUND:
Investors will be refunded. That's for sure. There is no way, the money will flow somewhere else.

Some things to be done now by the guys in charge:
1. Liquidator will collect all the data, that is required to get the picture
2. Moneywise, he will make a sure, he has his hands on the pot
3. ICO data... well, let's see if Trado is cooperating
4. Legal considerations: Who will be eligible for refund (Pre-Sale, Founder, ICO Investors, Exchange buyers, ...)
5. Then, finally, let's start counting: Do the math!
6. Distribution of remaining funds
6. Case closed

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okay this is good update but i think first refund should be done to the pre-sale and ico investors because actual funding money collect by them
after that think about the exchange buyers and other staff.
exchange buyers is also important.
but what if ico investors sold their token after ico finished and take their money back almost?
that's a huge challenge for who's will going to refund the money.

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February 01, 2019, 12:05:14 AM
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.
case is in the court but what about investors and worker who workhard for envion to make it successfull
envion raised 100 million in the ICO excluding underground and unofficially sold tokens to investors
refunding should be done in a proper way to those lost money by investing in envion
refund should not for the limited number of people.
distribution of refund should be first for those who still holding envion token from its ICO time.
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February 01, 2019, 07:08:43 AM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
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February 01, 2019, 08:22:16 AM
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.
case is in the court but what about investors and worker who workhard for envion to make it successfull
envion raised 100 million in the ICO excluding underground and unofficially sold tokens to investors
refunding should be done in a proper way to those lost money by investing in envion
refund should not for the limited number of people.
distribution of refund should be first for those who still holding envion token from its ICO time.

All the millions this people raised in this ico and could not do anything with it and yet still finding it hard to do proper refund to investors, such a wast of time in this project, nothing good came out of it except for a lawsuit, with such amount raised, Envion would have been one of the most talked about project, but unfortunately greed overtook the owners.
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February 01, 2019, 09:21:37 AM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
It is better for you to be patient to wait for who knows later that you will get a refund from the company, but it depends on you, because if you lose your trust it's hard to restore your trust

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February 01, 2019, 11:56:50 AM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
It is better for you to be patient to wait for who knows later that you will get a refund from the company, but it depends on you, because if you lose your trust it's hard to restore your trust

Patient? For what exactly? If you bought from the ico with a credit card then you can wait for refund, sure...

If you bought the ico with the crypto, then you are in the yobit level of shit and your bag value is next to zero.
Even if you get the refund they won't refund it fully, and it will probably happen with the worst possible fiat/crypto conversion ratio.

If you bought from exchanges, i can't see any reason for you to have anything if there indeed has been unlawful release of the tokens. And when are you getting refund?
Could be 30 years for all we know so good luck with that.

People are angry for a reason. Don't tell us to be patient!
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February 01, 2019, 12:25:12 PM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
It is better for you to be patient to wait for who knows later that you will get a refund from the company, but it depends on you, because if you lose your trust it's hard to restore your trust

Patient? For what exactly? If you bought from the ico with a credit card then you can wait for refund, sure...

If you bought the ico with the crypto, then you are in the yobit level of shit and your bag value is next to zero.
Even if you get the refund they won't refund it fully, and it will probably happen with the worst possible fiat/crypto conversion ratio.

If you bought from exchanges, i can't see any reason for you to have anything if there indeed has been unlawful release of the tokens. And when are you getting refund?
Could be 30 years for all we know so good luck with that.

People are angry for a reason. Don't tell us to be patient!

Many people are frustrated about this Envion project because they managed to collect more than 100 million during their TGE, which seems to be very prominent and after that they failed to reach their desired roadmap with the legal isssues. Till now, they didn't comup with any solution for the investors and it is very bad to know that.
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February 01, 2019, 04:18:21 PM
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.
case is in the court but what about investors and worker who workhard for envion to make it successfull
envion raised 100 million in the ICO excluding underground and unofficially sold tokens to investors
refunding should be done in a proper way to those lost money by investing in envion
refund should not for the limited number of people.
distribution of refund should be first for those who still holding envion token from its ICO time.
I think you worked for envion project as a bounty hunter, in my opinion over whelming members were join envion bounty.
All bounty hunters really worked hard for envion, spread the word but they all got nothing because ceo caught in fraud.
Now i don't think so hunters will get any reward but investors who invested during ico, maybe they get money back from envion. Long procedure!

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Many people are frustrated about this Envion project because they managed to collect more than 100 million during their TGE, which seems to be very prominent and after that they failed to reach their desired roadmap with the legal isssues. Till now, they didn't comup with any solution for the investors and it is very bad to know that.

Many people are frustrated because so many people have invested. And because it seems to be a planned fraud from the start.
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February 04, 2019, 03:40:04 PM
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.
case is in the court but what about investors and worker who workhard for envion to make it successfull
envion raised 100 million in the ICO excluding underground and unofficially sold tokens to investors
refunding should be done in a proper way to those lost money by investing in envion
refund should not for the limited number of people.
distribution of refund should be first for those who still holding envion token from its ICO time.


Actually the Pre ico and ICO are separate and was not known to the ICO investors that there was a pre-ico the funds remaining in lockdown are the ICO funds not the Pre-ico funds that where spend on marketing and other stuff so imo the Pre-ICO investors have no claim to those funds.

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February 04, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
It is better for you to be patient to wait for who knows later that you will get a refund from the company, but it depends on you, because if you lose your trust it's hard to restore your trust

People are losing faith in Envion project due to the things they are doing because people who invested during the crowd sales are really bothering about the Envion whether they will get the refund or not?
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February 04, 2019, 05:57:23 PM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
It is better for you to be patient to wait for who knows later that you will get a refund from the company, but it depends on you, because if you lose your trust it's hard to restore your trust

People are losing faith in Envion project due to the things they are doing because people who invested during the crowd sales are really bothering about the Envion whether they will get the refund or not?

Its not a matter of losing faith .. its Over done dead .. they lied and cheated us .. hell yes its worth trying to get all we can back from the 100million they stole .. wtf do u suggest let them keep it and go ah well lesson learned .. fuck no .. these people need to be taken to court and stripped of their assets so they dont lie and cheat other people in the future.

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Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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February 13, 2019, 02:17:22 PM
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Don't be desperated folks!

I think we can do something to see money back. Switzerland is not Nigeria (sorry Nigerians). Lately the Liquidator put on a scheme where its been shown, what the next steps are. Read it all and you will understand, especially the creditors' meeting thingy.
https://www.envion-konkurs.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/Ablauf_Konkursverfahren_E_25_01_2019__6696642_.pdf

Creditors meeting:
This was announced by this efri.io initiative few weeks back, I remember. I am sure, we (the investors) can do something, if we have a seat at liquidator's table. Giving "Power of Attorney" collected by this EFRI is maybe the best option.

https://efri.io/envion-funds-recovery-case
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Last edit: February 13, 2019, 07:15:09 PM by o48o
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Don't be desperated folks!

I think we can do something to see money back. Switzerland is not Nigeria (sorry Nigerians). Lately the Liquidator put on a scheme where its been shown, what the next steps are. Read it all and you will understand, especially the creditors' meeting thingy.
https://www.envion-konkurs.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/Ablauf_Konkursverfahren_E_25_01_2019__6696642_.pdf

Creditors meeting:
This was announced by this efri.io initiative few weeks back, I remember. I am sure, we (the investors) can do something, if we have a seat at liquidator's table. Giving "Power of Attorney" collected by this EFRI is maybe the best option.

https://efri.io/envion-funds-recovery-case

I contacted them while ago, still haven't got any answer. I wonder how long does that take or if they are just ignoring me...

 
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February 14, 2019, 07:48:16 PM
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Hi o48o

I think they are overloaded or just wait for the official announcement by the liquidator. I received a response in a time manner.

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