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September 04, 2018, 11:27:08 AM |
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what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?
I think now is the worst time to sell any token. For those who want to trade EVN can use Token.Store or Yobit: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/envion/#marketsThat really depends on the token. Imho it's not foolish to sell something on where you can literally lose the whole investment, not just 95%. But generally yeah, markets seen little bit brighter now. well envion lost great value in price from its ICO price some people bought envion after ICO when price down still no news about envion next step they are so quite right now and have no idea what will be their next plan price going down day by day. volume is almost nothing I was not talking about the speculation price swings or the markets. I was talking about that this token has no use case if the Finma says so. And there are no steps that Envion can take now. It's all in Finma's hands now. Let's hope for the best outcome. It's all we can do. |
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nobytes
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September 04, 2018, 03:02:01 PM |
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what about people that want to sell Envion tokens? I mean, for the ones that accept the loss, someone can help them to sell their tokens? How they should move now that there are no opened markets?
I think now is the worst time to sell any token. For those who want to trade EVN can use Token.Store or Yobit: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/envion/#marketsThat really depends on the token. Imho it's not foolish to sell something on where you can literally lose the whole investment, not just 95%. But generally yeah, markets seen little bit brighter now. well envion lost great value in price from its ICO price some people bought envion after ICO when price down still no news about envion next step they are so quite right now and have no idea what will be their next plan price going down day by day. volume is almost nothing I was not talking about the speculation price swings or the markets. I was talking about that this token has no use case if the Finma says so. And there are no steps that Envion can take now. It's all in Finma's hands now. Let's hope for the best outcome. It's all we can do. Well that's not all we can do, we can also cut our losses an and sell. Even if they cashed out everything that's left to refund token holders, i am guessing they have to do a kyc for each and every one of them, as they can't fund anonymous people and that would took a lot of time and money. And i am not sure on how much money is even left to give back. |
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wwzsocki
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September 05, 2018, 05:54:08 PM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
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bitcircle
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September 05, 2018, 06:00:37 PM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
Only the founders know what is happening behind the scene but they are looking shy to tell the truth. I think CEO has the whole money or the founders have nothing to tell the investors and nobody knows why they are silent and not talking what progress they made. All are waiting to hear good news so let's see when this will happen. |
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MiBambino
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September 05, 2018, 07:35:07 PM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
that money is probably gone just for legal fees and insurance claims. They might have tried to run away with it, but that much money doesnt just disappear |
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nobytes
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September 06, 2018, 04:35:13 AM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
that money is probably gone just for legal fees and insurance claims. They might have tried to run away with it, but that much money doesnt just disappear Probably... buy most annoying thing is that while blockchain is transparent, no one seem to have any clue on how much is moved to fiat currency or how much is left. Well, i am sure that someone has tracked those, but i haven't seen any reporting in here. |
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chacha4twenty
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September 06, 2018, 07:10:25 PM |
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what about FINMA statement?? .. envion will be run by founders or just died project..?? investors lost enough money on this project but got nothing..  |
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mehar_gee
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September 06, 2018, 09:21:58 PM |
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what about FINMA statement?? .. envion will be run by founders or just died project..?? investors lost enough money on this project but got nothing.. i have still no clue yet that envion team will start work on the project or its a dead project waiting for news from envion team if anyone here have any info about the future planing of envion team please share. envion is a 100 million worth ICO and a 100 million ICO ends like this way that totally not right |
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majestymage
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September 06, 2018, 10:21:55 PM |
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i still cannot believe this project was a scam. i have even participated with an open heart in their ico. damn, it was such a good idea.
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oneidentity
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September 06, 2018, 10:28:31 PM |
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It is high time to realize that this project is a scum, to reconcile with this and forget about these scammers once and for all. Now I will be much more attentive to the choice of projects.
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nobytes
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September 06, 2018, 10:38:14 PM |
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i still cannot believe this project was a scam. i have even participated with an open heart in their ico. damn, it was such a good idea.
Yeah, it was a good idea, then they gave all the shares to ceo and this happened. Maybe next time they will do a background check. This was a very good example how management can screw everything up even if the idea is good. |
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frerejaak
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September 07, 2018, 07:11:48 PM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
that money is probably gone just for legal fees and insurance claims. They might have tried to run away with it, but that much money doesnt just disappear Probably... buy most annoying thing is that while blockchain is transparent, no one seem to have any clue on how much is moved to fiat currency or how much is left. Well, i am sure that someone has tracked those, but i haven't seen any reporting in here. plus there are ways to use the blockchain to cover your tracks, like Monero for example. Either way they wont get to enjoy the money, they're probably even going to be in debt after this if they get served |
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September11Myth
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September 07, 2018, 09:30:14 PM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
that money is probably gone just for legal fees and insurance claims. They might have tried to run away with it, but that much money doesnt just disappear Probably... buy most annoying thing is that while blockchain is transparent, no one seem to have any clue on how much is moved to fiat currency or how much is left. Well, i am sure that someone has tracked those, but i haven't seen any reporting in here. I wonder what the German tribunals are doing about all this. German authorities usually wouldn't take frauds as a joke. But apparently there is no news about that in the press. I wish there were. |
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September 08, 2018, 02:05:26 AM |
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I keep wondering how much money left from this 100M and where are they actually?
If anybody knows please explain and additionally I am looking for news and updates about FINMA or just anything related to Envion scam.
There are no updates lately and I am banned on Telegram fully so I can even not see what they are talking about in the founders' channel.
that money is probably gone just for legal fees and insurance claims. They might have tried to run away with it, but that much money doesnt just disappear Probably... buy most annoying thing is that while blockchain is transparent, no one seem to have any clue on how much is moved to fiat currency or how much is left. Well, i am sure that someone has tracked those, but i haven't seen any reporting in here. I wonder what the German tribunals are doing about all this. German authorities usually wouldn't take frauds as a joke. But apparently there is no news about that in the press. I wish there were. There is not much news just because German justice is a very serious one. They will say all that is necessary when the legal process is completed. Good luck. |
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chacha4twenty
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September 08, 2018, 05:59:04 PM |
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i still cannot believe this project was a scam. i have even participated with an open heart in their ico. damn, it was such a good idea.
our bad luck..this project is scam project...ceo caught in fraud.. you lost money in this project and we waste our time in this project .... bounty hunters not receive rewards..  |
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abonarea
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September 08, 2018, 06:09:51 PM |
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If anyone still think there is any hope that should be day dreaming with open eyes and waiting for miracle to happen. Some people kept repeating that nothing is wrong and those are bringing truth in the light are spreading lies but time is best judge. Every single day is opening eyes of people but by now it is too late to recover even at this price and volume.
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eprocent
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September 08, 2018, 11:18:16 PM |
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i still cannot believe this project was a scam. i have even participated with an open heart in their ico. damn, it was such a good idea.
our bad luck..this project is scam project...ceo caught in fraud.. you lost money in this project and we waste our time in this project .... bounty hunters not receive rewards.. With regard to bounty hunters, even if every bounty hunter in the future Envion team would give rewards according to engagement, the price of Envion tokens in exchange can be so small that it would not value what is being received. Good luck. |
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nobytes
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September 09, 2018, 04:41:07 PM |
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If anyone still think there is any hope that should be day dreaming with open eyes and waiting for miracle to happen. Some people kept repeating that nothing is wrong and those are bringing truth in the light are spreading lies but time is best judge. Every single day is opening eyes of people but by now it is too late to recover even at this price and volume.
Recovering has really nothing to do with the current price, it has everything to do with that speculation that finma would give go ahead... If that miracle happens i guess those invested have really earned their profits. I myself am pessimistic and am not buying until and if the finma gives some positive news. |
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Freaks
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September 09, 2018, 06:18:58 PM |
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If anyone still think there is any hope that should be day dreaming with open eyes and waiting for miracle to happen. Some people kept repeating that nothing is wrong and those are bringing truth in the light are spreading lies but time is best judge. Every single day is opening eyes of people but by now it is too late to recover even at this price and volume.
Recovering has really nothing to do with the current price, it has everything to do with that speculation that finma would give go ahead... If that miracle happens i guess those invested have really earned their profits. I myself am pessimistic and am not buying until and if the finma gives some positive news. Trading volume is almost dead it seems nobody interested to buy this token anymore and nobody want to lose more money this has been turned into gambling and this is really risky investment at this stage. I also agreed with we should if they would really bounce back. |
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frerejaak
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September 09, 2018, 09:02:27 PM |
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If anyone still think there is any hope that should be day dreaming with open eyes and waiting for miracle to happen. Some people kept repeating that nothing is wrong and those are bringing truth in the light are spreading lies but time is best judge. Every single day is opening eyes of people but by now it is too late to recover even at this price and volume.
Recovering has really nothing to do with the current price, it has everything to do with that speculation that finma would give go ahead... If that miracle happens i guess those invested have really earned their profits. I myself am pessimistic and am not buying until and if the finma gives some positive news. Trading volume is almost dead it seems nobody interested to buy this token anymore and nobody want to lose more money this has been turned into gambling and this is really risky investment at this stage. I also agreed with we should if they would really bounce back. investing now would be like investing in myspace. Face it, its not going anywhere and buying coins now would simply help investors dump their coins. Its a shame though, it had a lot of potential |
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