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February 19, 2019, 01:54:38 AM
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I contacted them while ago, still haven't got any answer. I wonder how long does that take or if they are just ignoring me...
These kind of cases take literally years to solve it or reach that point where everyone i " satisfied " with their outcome. Envion is finished, now it's just a mater of investors get their money back, as simple as that.
One thing to consider great & make investor (the ones who paid with CC or anything that can be proven) optimistic is that is based in Switzerland, anyone else that paid with crypto can say good bye to his investment.

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February 19, 2019, 11:07:21 PM
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Hey hey ansi,

Can you explain, why I should  "say good bye to his investment" when paid with crypto? Stop fudding, this is pointless here.

It is up to the liquidator to make decisions, thank god. And not a random user on btctalk
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February 27, 2019, 03:07:27 PM
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Hey hey ansi,

Can you explain, why I should  "say good bye to his investment" when paid with crypto? Stop fudding, this is pointless here.

It is up to the liquidator to make decisions, thank god. And not a random user on btctalk
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because project is dead without delivering anything. now nothing left. but investors refunds requests only. envion raised huge money in ICO but all are in vain. better leave envion and look forward for better working project with good team members

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March 12, 2019, 12:14:55 AM
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just found this on CMC stats, from their main linked page https://www.envion-konkurs.ch/
Bankruptcy is here.
Another rippoff of others btc we see
No integrity we say...

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March 12, 2019, 05:12:37 AM
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I don't understand why these refunding announcements are coming out when case is in court and there is decision for refund yet, as far as I know. Even if there will be ordered to refund limited number of people are going to claim it be sure of this. This refunding topic is being kept alive artificially and hard reality is investors have lost money for good.
case is in the court but what about investors and worker who workhard for envion to make it successfull
envion raised 100 million in the ICO excluding underground and unofficially sold tokens to investors
refunding should be done in a proper way to those lost money by investing in envion
refund should not for the limited number of people.
distribution of refund should be first for those who still holding envion token from its ICO time.
I think you worked for envion project as a bounty hunter, in my opinion over whelming members were join envion bounty.
All bounty hunters really worked hard for envion, spread the word but they all got nothing because ceo caught in fraud.
Now i don't think so hunters will get any reward but investors who invested during ico, maybe they get money back from envion. Long procedure!

Of course, we are bothering much about the bounty hunters but what about the investors who invested money Envion project. Till now, they didn't get any refund for their investment and as well as coins, most probably we have to consider this as a scam.

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March 12, 2019, 09:01:46 AM
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I remember this thread was one of the very active seeing those invested in this were having high hopes of receiving money back. Now It has been almost one and half month and same page. Here you have lot to learn that what investors are thinking about its future in regard of refunding. It was another expensive experiment for some investors. This is scam what else you want to see before accepting the reality.


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March 27, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
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Guys,

for those, who still not have reliable information outside the liars and manipulators group of Laurents gang (aka Founder channel), please consider to join the biggest Envion investor channel on telegram (700+ members): https://t.me/envioninvestors

For those, who have not received a PIN to unlock the CC paid ENV tokens:
You have front row seat as an creditor, eligible to get refunded 100% before liquidation. Check in the telegram group mentioned above and ask there for how to!

Additional powerful movement:
There is an initiative backed by tax and law experts (Laurent would say "predators"). The initiative's goal is to protect investors interests in front of the liquidator. The more investors join, the better. This service is free of charge. Read up: www.efri.io

Founders are concerned about the power of organized investors. They fear such action, because they cannot control it and it interfeers with their interests. All join!

All new projects should distribute the coins for free as it was for bitcoins in 2009 and how it was for many other successful projects that didn't need money to get started

how can we tell those at efri.io are not scammers as well

EFRI.oi Upto 10% are you fucking kidding .. that's a total ripoff that's like stealing money from people that have already been robbed DO NOT GIVE THOSE CROOKS 10%.


Cheesy you can't trust anyone on this thread, everyone has their own agenda. I have totally given up for ever getting anything back, even trough refunds.

I have lost faith in this project, i don't think so that we are going to get any refund from the company. Yes, a person has his own views about the Envion project but without any update and progress from the team will be considered as a fake project.
It is better for you to be patient to wait for who knows later that you will get a refund from the company, but it depends on you, because if you lose your trust it's hard to restore your trust

Patient? For what exactly? If you bought from the ico with a credit card then you can wait for refund, sure...

If you bought the ico with the crypto, then you are in the yobit level of shit and your bag value is next to zero.
Even if you get the refund they won't refund it fully, and it will probably happen with the worst possible fiat/crypto conversion ratio.

If you bought from exchanges, i can't see any reason for you to have anything if there indeed has been unlawful release of the tokens. And when are you getting refund?
Could be 30 years for all we know so good luck with that.

People are angry for a reason. Don't tell us to be patient!

Many people are frustrated about this Envion project because they managed to collect more than 100 million during their TGE, which seems to be very prominent and after that they failed to reach their desired roadmap with the legal isssues. Till now, they didn't comup with any solution for the investors and it is very bad to know that.


all new projects should distribute the coins for free as it was for bitcoins in 2009 and how it was for many other successful projects that didn't need money to get started
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March 30, 2019, 07:59:01 PM
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The reality is that all these people involved in returning funds and all involved instances will take a significant amount of the money as a payout.

Additionally, the price of cryptocurrencies is different today and if they still hold crypto then this is a significant loss too.

I hope that liquidator already has all funds in his possession and everything adds up because if not then this is possible that some funds will be missing in the end too.

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April 07, 2019, 03:23:35 AM
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I received an email about refund. do you think this is true?

Dear All,

 

you registered with EFRI for the Envion token refund during the past months.

 

We spoke with the Swiss liquidator of Envion. He is planning to come back beginning May and to start the refund process to the EVN token holders. That’s good news, finally.

 

So EFRI is preparing everything for the claim of the single EVN Token Holder. We still need some info from you so pls get in touch as soon as possible to enable us to get your claim ready.

 

Pls get back to us as soon as possible.

 

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April 07, 2019, 07:27:28 AM
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It is positive progress on refunding and hope this will end well this time because we have seen such announcements in past as well. At least investors those invested directly will be given money back. In all this issue investors those joined by picking up from market and bounty participants are losers. Let's see this time results are different or this is another drag of time move.
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April 07, 2019, 08:17:20 AM
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I didn't understand how they will pay the funds to all token holders this project raised very huge amount and still no progress even they stop communication with the community too. Is there any authenticated source to let know about the progress on this refund process?
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April 07, 2019, 03:24:59 PM
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I didn't understand how they will pay the funds to all token holders this project raised very huge amount and still no progress even they stop communication with the community too. Is there any authenticated source to let know about the progress on this refund process?
no funds will be returned, I think, because Envion has left everything like a bummer, just seeing bounty can't pay at all

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April 22, 2019, 08:07:27 AM
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I think bounty is the last things that need to be fixed. Let's start with the ICO investors refund issue.

I didn't understand how they will pay the funds to all token holders this project raised very huge amount and still no progress even they stop communication with the community too. Is there any authenticated source to let know about the progress on this refund process?
no funds will be returned, I think, because Envion has left everything like a bummer, just seeing bounty can't pay at all
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April 22, 2019, 09:07:39 AM
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I think bounty is the last things that need to be fixed. Let's start with the ICO investors refund issue.

I didn't understand how they will pay the funds to all token holders this project raised very huge amount and still no progress even they stop communication with the community too. Is there any authenticated source to let know about the progress on this refund process?
no funds will be returned, I think, because Envion has left everything like a bummer, just seeing bounty can't pay at all
why do you think? Envion is a long time scammer us, but I'm confused,
why aren't they removed from the market? like yobit and token store

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April 22, 2019, 09:16:07 AM
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I think bounty is the last things that need to be fixed. Let's start with the ICO investors refund issue.

I didn't understand how they will pay the funds to all token holders this project raised very huge amount and still no progress even they stop communication with the community too. Is there any authenticated source to let know about the progress on this refund process?
no funds will be returned, I think, because Envion has left everything like a bummer, just seeing bounty can't pay at all
why do you think? Envion is a long time scammer us, but I'm confused,
why aren't they removed from the market? like yobit and token store
That's right, what you say, I also think so, why has Envion not been expelled from the market until now because Envion itself has clearly deceived us, the most important thing is to monitor the progress whether Envion will be expelled from the market or not

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May 06, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
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I think bounty is the last things that need to be fixed. Let's start with the ICO investors refund issue.

I didn't understand how they will pay the funds to all token holders this project raised very huge amount and still no progress even they stop communication with the community too. Is there any authenticated source to let know about the progress on this refund process?
no funds will be returned, I think, because Envion has left everything like a bummer, just seeing bounty can't pay at all
why do you think? Envion is a long time scammer us, but I'm confused,
why aren't they removed from the market? like yobit and token store
That's right, what you say, I also think so, why has Envion not been expelled from the market until now because Envion itself has clearly deceived us, the most important thing is to monitor the progress whether Envion will be expelled from the market or not
envion will expelled from the market, there are so many scam projects that are still listed on the coin marketcap and yobit but they are dead. this will soon to be delist if not then new traders and people who put their money in such dead project without research will loss.

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May 07, 2019, 10:50:49 AM
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why do you think? Envion is a long time scammer us, but I'm confused,
why aren't they removed from the market? like yobit and token store

Why would yobit unlist any scam tokens or care if they can profit from them? I mean it has a reputation of a shadiest exchange of the older ones out there. Envion isn't even the most obvious one.

 
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I completely forgot about this project and came across this thread. Tell me, how did the trial end with these scammers? As I recall, people went to court.
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May 08, 2019, 12:37:19 AM
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Have not been here for a while, I am also curious how it all goes with the refunds.
Was also an investor myself, but don't see any news yet, or did I miss something?

Or will it even be so bad that they not only scammed with envion, but also fake the fact that the court has made a judgment.
Wall that all fakes is also very simple. Spread fake news to a few media websites and the rest of the media does take over message.

Or will there be another manupilation going on with all sorts of scam behavior from governments and scammers. That those curators also try to work with the government to put everything in their own pocket and handle everything according to their plan. That we suddenly receive a news message on the internet that you will receive 1 dollar per token if you return it to the curator. want to earn 50 million in profits.


In any case, I do not trust anyone who has anything of a connection with the government or banking or court. The whole group of people in that category are even worse if the rig in syria is chopping heads all day.

Why? because they feel supperieur and they only see power, money and they don't like ordinary people. only if you give them money they like you for 5 seconds.

Or are they too busy trading our money. Banks have been running fraud for a year through bitmex. (1 ceo formal trader for the deutche bank. The 2nd ceo was trading software developer of the JPmorgan bank. To start bitmex they are going to settle in asia so that it is not punishable in their country america and england.

Pay the refund out over 382 days. zo the hodlers get there profits on the bitcoin price inflation Grin
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May 08, 2019, 06:15:29 AM
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I completely forgot about this project and came across this thread. Tell me, how did the trial end with these scammers? As I recall, people went to court.
no one knows about the continuation of the Envion team in court,
are they in jail or maybe they are having fun enjoying money stolen by ICO  Grin Grin

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