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January 22, 2020, 05:41:53 PM
Last edit: January 24, 2020, 10:30:29 AM by wwzsocki
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For what purpose we need to submit the documents, even though we submit the documents, there is no guarantee whether we are going to get the refund from them, I hope it is better to stay away from these holy crap because the higher official is not directly involving.

Why are you commenting in this thread if you have no clue what you are talking about and you were never enrolled in any of the Envion bounty campaigns?

You have registered this account exactly on the same day (+/-) when the Envion bounty campaign started and they wanted to enroll at least Junior members for signature.

To be completely sure I have checked spreadsheets and haven't found you there, so please refrain from spreading false information and misleading people, if you don't know the subject properly.


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January 25, 2020, 10:07:49 AM
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... My bounty tokens claim will be ACCEPTED!!!...
It took literally one day and I got my answer after I submitted all the needed documents and MY CLAIM IS ACCEPTED!!!



There is still time to fill your claims bounty hunters, just read few posts above for the links and explanation.

As you can see my Envion bounty tokens claim is accepted by the authorities!!!

As mentioned in the quote there is still time to file claims if participated in any of the bounty campaigns.

I will be very happy to help if anybody needs any guidance or explanation of the claiming process, just send me a PM or even better answer in the thread if this is no problem.

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January 25, 2020, 05:10:47 PM
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I applied for the purchases at the ico stage.
can I re-submit documents for campaigns?
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January 26, 2020, 01:19:03 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2020, 10:58:34 AM by wwzsocki
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I applied for the purchases at the ico stage. can I re-submit documents for campaigns?

I am not sure if I understand you correctly?

Are you an ICO investor and already filed your claim and ask about the bounty claim now?

To be able to answer your question, you have to be more specific, please.

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I applied for the purchases at the ico stage.
can I re-submit documents for campaigns?

Whether you are an ICO investor or a campaign participant, your claim will not come into a good end with this shit project. The claim that people are talking here are claims to be submitted for legal deliberation and not claims to be accepted by the development team of this project for possible payment. There is no more envion in the first place. Everything was an absolute scam.

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January 26, 2020, 09:27:16 AM
 #4466

I applied for the purchases at the ico stage.
can I re-submit documents for campaigns?

Whether you are an ICO investor or a campaign participant, your claim will not come into a good end with this shit project. The claim that people are talking here are claims to be submitted for legal deliberation and not claims to be accepted by the development team of this project for possible payment. There is no more envion in the first place. Everything was an absolute scam.
I agree with your opinion, but I am confused that this project continues even though they have deceived the community from the very beginning. Many people who were deceived by the evion project from the start did not distribute their prize bounties to participants according to their agreement, all of them were just empty numbers and for anyone the ones who say about the ENVION project are stupid people

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January 27, 2020, 06:32:07 AM
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I applied for the purchases at the ico stage.
can I re-submit documents for campaigns?

Whether you are an ICO investor or a campaign participant, your claim will not come into a good end with this shit project. The claim that people are talking here are claims to be submitted for legal deliberation and not claims to be accepted by the development team of this project for possible payment. There is no more envion in the first place. Everything was an absolute scam.
I agree with your opinion, but I am confused that this project continues even though they have deceived the community from the very beginning. Many people who were deceived by the evion project from the start did not distribute their prize bounties to participants according to their agreement, all of them were just empty numbers and for anyone the ones who say about the ENVION project are stupid people

Is this project still moving forward? Not anymore. This project is long dead.

Not only did they fail to pay anyone promoting their project, they also failed all their investors. And even if they will pay with their tokens, it is useless because it will definitely not earn any value.

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January 28, 2020, 03:39:23 AM
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I applied for the purchases at the ico stage.
can I re-submit documents for campaigns?

Whether you are an ICO investor or a campaign participant, your claim will not come into a good end with this shit project. The claim that people are talking here are claims to be submitted for legal deliberation and not claims to be accepted by the development team of this project for possible payment. There is no more envion in the first place. Everything was an absolute scam.
I agree with your opinion, but I am confused that this project continues even though they have deceived the community from the very beginning. Many people who were deceived by the evion project from the start did not distribute their prize bounties to participants according to their agreement, all of them were just empty numbers and for anyone the ones who say about the ENVION project are stupid people

Is this project still moving forward? Not anymore. This project is long dead.

Not only did they fail to pay anyone promoting their project, they also failed all their investors. And even if they will pay with their tokens, it is useless because it will definitely not earn any value.
I don't want to see projects like this anymore, I will avoid the team leaders from the Envion project, I don't want to see them again in the future, and it's great if this project is dead, of course it won't upset the public anymore, Envion is a very cruel con artist

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January 28, 2020, 05:57:04 AM
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I applied for the purchases at the ico stage.
can I re-submit documents for campaigns?

Whether you are an ICO investor or a campaign participant, your claim will not come into a good end with this shit project. The claim that people are talking here are claims to be submitted for legal deliberation and not claims to be accepted by the development team of this project for possible payment. There is no more envion in the first place. Everything was an absolute scam.
I agree with your opinion, but I am confused that this project continues even though they have deceived the community from the very beginning. Many people who were deceived by the evion project from the start did not distribute their prize bounties to participants according to their agreement, all of them were just empty numbers and for anyone the ones who say about the ENVION project are stupid people

Is this project still moving forward? Not anymore. This project is long dead.

Not only did they fail to pay anyone promoting their project, they also failed all their investors. And even if they will pay with their tokens, it is useless because it will definitely not earn any value.
I don't want to see projects like this anymore, I will avoid the team leaders from the Envion project, I don't want to see them again in the future, and it's great if this project is dead, of course it won't upset the public anymore, Envion is a very cruel con artist

It is not enough that we do not see them anymore being part of any project in the future.

They should serve time in jail for their crimes. They have lured people into an investment that ended up in a scam exit.

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February 02, 2020, 02:11:16 PM
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Already we lost hope on this project, yes, it is completely discussing about the Envion because we have seen many companies which they have never refund the investor's investment. Instead of wasting our valuable time here, it is very good to move to others which are showing some potential credibility in the market.


This project is indeed very disappointing, there is no bounty payment and the project is dead,
try to think of something else, I know how you feel, I also experience it

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April 21, 2020, 07:55:00 PM
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News from Liquidator.

He recently posted some numbers: 6000 claims, 58m token

source:
www.envion-konkurs.ch/en/latest-news/2020-04-14-current-status-of-proceedings-convening-of-the-first-creditors-meeting/
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April 23, 2020, 01:03:29 PM
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Already we lost hope on this project, yes, it is completely discussing about the Envion because we have seen many companies which they have never refund the investor's investment. Instead of wasting our valuable time here, it is very good to move to others which are showing some potential credibility in the market.


This project is indeed very disappointing, there is no bounty payment and the project is dead,
try to think of something else, I know how you feel, I also experience it

How can you expect payment for the bounty because already the company is in the investigation which it is impossible to get the bounty payment? Even investors lost their money by investing in this company, lost their hope whether they will get back their investment or not. Simply it is waste asking questions here about the bounty payments.
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July 03, 2020, 04:46:43 PM
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Guys, there are some important news from the liquidator out. Official announcement. Read it here:
https://www.envion-konkurs.ch/en/
This is the official website. The PDF has a password. Use: 4yE?okd=%F

In another press article we can read very detailed explanations about the LUP scam (among others). Check here:
https://envionwatch.wordpress.com/2020/06/30/envion-liquidation-the-trail-of-money-and-the-missing-millions/

Overall, it looks good for the investors to get back (at least parts) invested money
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July 03, 2020, 06:53:48 PM
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How can you expect payment for the bounty because already the company is in the investigation which it is impossible to get the bounty payment?...

There is still a big chance that we indeed will get paid for the bounty campaign. You have to study the bankruptcy and claiming process, to know and understand why?

I have explained this already a few times in this thread in the past, so if you are really interested just search in older posts.

Additionally, claiming process is extended and if you are a bounty hunter or investor you can still file the claim.

Look, my claim for bounty tokens is accepted, of course, it could be rejected later on, but as for now, we are still in play.


https://portal.envion-konkurs.ch/home

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July 12, 2020, 09:44:19 PM
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These people from Envion Watch are scammers themselves. If you guys want the honest news about the progress, just join the founders telegram and ask all the questions you have.

Many investors are in that group. Lup is set up by the founders to get extra funds for the investors. Check it for yourself in their group.

Guys, there are some important news from the liquidator out. Official announcement. Read it here:
https://www.envion-konkurs.ch/en/
This is the official website. The PDF has a password. Use: 4yE?okd=%F

In another press article we can read very detailed explanations about the LUP scam (among others). Check here:
https://envionwatch.wordpress.com/2020/06/30/envion-liquidation-the-trail-of-money-and-the-missing-millions/

Overall, it looks good for the investors to get back (at least parts) invested money

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July 14, 2020, 05:50:49 AM
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Guys, there are some important news from the liquidator out. Official announcement. Read it here:
https://www.envion-konkurs.ch/en/
This is the official website. The PDF has a password. Use: 4yE?okd=%F

In another press article we can read very detailed explanations about the LUP scam (among others). Check here:
https://envionwatch.wordpress.com/2020/06/30/envion-liquidation-the-trail-of-money-and-the-missing-millions/

Overall, it looks good for the investors to get back (at least parts) invested money

The messages we got is good, but who are getting the actual payments from the concerned department, if people are really getting paid, why don't they come here and say they got their refund back, it will help many investors to feel happy.

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August 12, 2020, 07:15:21 PM
Last edit: August 13, 2020, 01:11:26 PM by wwzsocki
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The messages we got is good, but who are getting the actual payments from the concerned department, if people are really getting paid, why don't they come here and say they got their refund back, it will help many investors to feel happy.

Don't understand what you are talking about?

As for now, nobody gets paid and even the claiming process is still active. They are accepting new claims and ask everybody to fill theirs.

There is not much hope that we will get paid, especially bounty hunters, but I think that at least investors will get something back.

A significant amount of money was sized just after ICO, but taking into consideration how many parties are involved in the claiming process and the time passed, for sure this does not help and the amount of money keeps shrinking proportionally.

I never thought that it will be a fast process but almost 3 years is long enough.

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August 13, 2020, 08:21:22 AM
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The messages we got is good, but who are getting the actual payments from the concerned department, if people are really getting paid, why don't they come here and say they got their refund back, it will help many investors to feel happy.

Don't understand what you are talking about?

As for now nobody gets paid and even the claiming process is still active, They are accepting new claims and ask everybody to fill theirs.

There is not much hope that we will get paid, especially bounty hunters, but I think that at least investors will get something back.

Significant amount sized just after ICO, but taking into consideration how many parties are involved and the time passed for sure this does not help and amount of money keep shrinking proportionally.

I never thought that it will be a fast process but almost 3 years is long enough.

Agreed with you it was a dram to collect the personal information and documents around the globe. This is scam project and the whole invested money has been lost for forever there is no hope for recovery. But some people are still dreaming to get back their money and nothing happening in real world.
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August 18, 2020, 09:32:42 PM
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Agreed with you it was a dram to collect the personal information and documents around the globe...

I also agree with you that it was a hard task to collect the details but from another site, it took too long in my opinion.

As I told before the longer it takes the less money there will be because the costs of third parties involved are going higher and higher together with time.

Envion was just in the ICO stage when the first scam accusations popped out and only a few months after the funds were collected the first court case started.

They sized all accounts and the majority of the funds, so I think there is still a big possibility that investors will get something back.

Of course, the prices today are different but we are in such a happy situation that crypto prices are going up which should impact the amount of money.

I couldn't find any info on how this sized money was used so far and how much it was exactly?

Don't know either if crypto was already exchanged or is being still held in crypto wallets which would be the best for us?

If anybody could answer these questions I will appreciate it.

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January 08, 2021, 02:33:17 PM
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These people from Envion Watch are scammers themselves. If you guys want the honest news about the progress, just join the founders telegram and ask all the questions you have.

Many investors are in that group. Lup is set up by the founders to get extra funds for the investors. Check it for yourself in their group.

This is an update on the Envion story

1. Zabivelli is just a paid sheep from the scammers around Michael Luckow. Trado GmbH was a setup (soon in liquidation) and LUP is a scam, even the liquidator confirmed that.

STAY AWAY FROM LUP AND REVOKE YOUR ONCE GIVEN POA WITH THEM!

2. Furthermore, there should be an update on the proceedings by the only source that is relevant right now: the officially appointed liquidator
website: www.envion-konkurs.ch

3. Meanwhile the remaining crypto held hostage by the criminal founders around Michael Luckow was sold the last few days. You can guess, in what pockets it will flow. Hopefully German law enforcement will do what is needed to be done. Bring justice.

4. Refund is under way. It just takes time because the crime gang around Michael Luckow is slowing down on all fronts: liquidation, lawsuits* and with the help of some lawyer buddies. Read more here: https://envionwatch.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/fact-checking-who-or-what-is-delaying-the-envion-liquidation/

(*) all lawsuits against Michael Luckow and his shitty Trado were won by investors to date
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