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[plasticAiredale]

How will we actually order these?

Are you going to post a BTC and LTC address and have people send in their coins, with us signing the sending address to prove ownership? Or are you going to have an order form on a website somewhere?

I am just wondering if I can just transfer coins from one of my online accounts (that don't support signing) to buy some, or if I need to figure out a way to access signable coins at work (depending on the day you open orders) so I don't miss out.

Sorry if this has been asked already, I've been keeping up with the thread but don't recall seeing this answered.

[smoothie]

How will we actually order these?

Are you going to post a BTC and LTC address and have people send in their coins, with us signing the sending address to prove ownership? Or are you going to have an order form on a website somewhere?

I am just wondering if I can just transfer coins from one of my online accounts (that don't support signing) to buy some, or if I need to figure out a way to access signable coins at work (depending on the day you open orders) so I don't miss out.

Sorry if this has been asked already, I've been keeping up with the thread but don't recall seeing this answered.

I will not require signing. So yes, you can send BTC or LTC from your online accounts.

Keep in mind I will not be doing any refunds. Please consider that when ordering.

Thanks

[SylTi]

I will go for 2 coins as well to europe

[HowGudAmI]

How will we actually order these?

Are you going to post a BTC and LTC address and have people send in their coins, with us signing the sending address to prove ownership? Or are you going to have an order form on a website somewhere?

I am just wondering if I can just transfer coins from one of my online accounts (that don't support signing) to buy some, or if I need to figure out a way to access signable coins at work (depending on the day you open orders) so I don't miss out.

Sorry if this has been asked already, I've been keeping up with the thread but don't recall seeing this answered.

I will not require signing. So yes, you can send BTC or LTC from your online accounts.

Keep in mind I will not be doing any refunds. Please consider that when ordering.

Thanks

What value would a coin be stated at in fiat on international packages? seen as they wont be loaded with LTC during transit would it just be the silver price?
What are you going to state the packages contain?
Will you accept payment where I withdraw from BTC-E into your wallet? For this I would not know the originating address but I think BTC-E give a txid.

[smoothie]

How will we actually order these?

Are you going to post a BTC and LTC address and have people send in their coins, with us signing the sending address to prove ownership? Or are you going to have an order form on a website somewhere?

I am just wondering if I can just transfer coins from one of my online accounts (that don't support signing) to buy some, or if I need to figure out a way to access signable coins at work (depending on the day you open orders) so I don't miss out.

Sorry if this has been asked already, I've been keeping up with the thread but don't recall seeing this answered.

I will not require signing. So yes, you can send BTC or LTC from your online accounts.

Keep in mind I will not be doing any refunds. Please consider that when ordering.

Thanks

What value would a coin be stated at in fiat on international packages? seen as they wont be loaded with LTC during transit would it just be the silver price?
What are you going to state the packages contain?
Will you accept payment where I withdraw from BTC-E into your wallet? For this I would not know the originating address but I think BTC-E give a txid.

Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

[Breen2543]

It sounds like you are going to be pretty damn busy wrapping coins and shipping them all out... hope you will be ready with packages, labels and a pen when you open up shop. lol

[smoothie]

It sounds like you are going to be pretty damn busy wrapping coins and shipping them all out... hope you will be ready with packages, labels and a pen when you open up shop. lol

  What do you think I am doing now. Prepping for launch.

[Jbanna]

This is great. Really looking forward to gettin me hands on some!

[IchibahnSLC]

So are you saying that total cost on these coins will be ~$40 each? That would be pretty sweet!

[smoothie]

So are you saying that total cost on these coins will be ~$40 each? That would be pretty sweet!

No please re-read the post I was responding to.

[IchibahnSLC]

So are you saying that total cost on these coins will be ~$40 each? That would be pretty sweet!

No please re-read the post I was responding to.

I know lol. I was just hoping. 

[zackclark70]

I sent an email to customs and excise ( in the uk ) asking how much import duty I would have to pay on 2 coins told them the weight 99.9% fine silver coin

and the reply was I would have to pay 20% vat on the price I paid including postage + 5% handling fee +£18.99 for shipping from the customs warehouse

I work out the total cost as

£100 for 2 coins  (50ltc)

£15 for shipping from the us

£23 for vat

£8 handling fee

£19 postage from customs

total price for 2 coins in the uk is £165

[Bogart]

Wow, they look awesome.  I will definitely be ordering some.

Will the visible minikeys have a rhyme or reason to them?  I think it would be nice to at least release them in order beginning with the low numbers first.

Will you be publishing a list of the public keys like Casascius does?

No. That is the beauty of the minikeys and normal WIF private keys, you shouldn't be able to predict them (hence their randomness).

Very Likely I will be publishing a list, yes.

He probably means sorting by the bitcoin addresses - not by the minikey itself.

For example on 2013 coins, some will observe that I have been issuing them in sequential "lots".  All the keys I generated for 2013 brass coins start with "12" or "13".  Further, I generated(kept) exactly 300 keypairs for each unique three-character prefix (121, 122, 123, ... 13X, 13Y, 13Z)

I chose 300 because that's how many keypairs print on a single sheet before cutting.  Because of this, each lot corresponds with a single sheet.  Doing it this way greatly increases the likelihood that any mistakes will stand out, makes inventory and planning a whole lot easier, and it segregates the workload into manageable units.  Also without going into too much detail, it adds benefit with respect to control over fraud, scams, and potential of loss/theft.  Example, if I had a theft, it would be far less damage to say "All the stolen coins started with prefix XXX" so people can just remember the prefix if they want, and can quickly judge that their coins aren't on the list.

Casascius,

Thanks for the clarification. I must have misinterpreted what he meant.

Concerning this first batch I will not be intentionally generating LTC addresses with a particular prefix.

Yes, that is essentially what I meant.  I hope that you might reconsider, especially for the first batch.

Having the numbers be serialized like that can add to the numismatic value of the earlier coins.

For instance, I have an early Casascius 1 BTC piece with a "13T" prefix that appears on page 7 of the coin list: http://casascius.appspot.com/group?type=1&page=7

Being so early in the series, its market value is probably somewhat higher than one that appears on page 108 or so.

Sure, people can still look up the address and see when it was funded, or find it on your published list, but it's not quite the same as having that recognizable prefix right on the coin.

[smoothie]

Wow, they look awesome.  I will definitely be ordering some.

Will the visible minikeys have a rhyme or reason to them?  I think it would be nice to at least release them in order beginning with the low numbers first.

Will you be publishing a list of the public keys like Casascius does?

No. That is the beauty of the minikeys and normal WIF private keys, you shouldn't be able to predict them (hence their randomness).

Very Likely I will be publishing a list, yes.

He probably means sorting by the bitcoin addresses - not by the minikey itself.

For example on 2013 coins, some will observe that I have been issuing them in sequential "lots".  All the keys I generated for 2013 brass coins start with "12" or "13".  Further, I generated(kept) exactly 300 keypairs for each unique three-character prefix (121, 122, 123, ... 13X, 13Y, 13Z)

I chose 300 because that's how many keypairs print on a single sheet before cutting.  Because of this, each lot corresponds with a single sheet.  Doing it this way greatly increases the likelihood that any mistakes will stand out, makes inventory and planning a whole lot easier, and it segregates the workload into manageable units.  Also without going into too much detail, it adds benefit with respect to control over fraud, scams, and potential of loss/theft.  Example, if I had a theft, it would be far less damage to say "All the stolen coins started with prefix XXX" so people can just remember the prefix if they want, and can quickly judge that their coins aren't on the list.

Casascius,

Thanks for the clarification. I must have misinterpreted what he meant.

Concerning this first batch I will not be intentionally generating LTC addresses with a particular prefix.

Yes, that is essentially what I meant.  I hope that you might reconsider, especially for the first batch.

Having the numbers be serialized like that can add to the numismatic value of the earlier coins.

For instance, I have an early Casascius 1 BTC piece with a "13T" prefix that appears on page 7 of the coin list: http://casascius.appspot.com/group?type=1&page=7

Being so early in the series, its market value is probably somewhat higher than one that appears on page 108 or so.

Sure, people can still look up the address and see when it was funded, or find it on your published list, but it's not quite the same as having that recognizable prefix right on the coin.

The idea I like and will use in subsequent batches of coins.

The error on the first batch is verifiable enough with the naked eye to know what batch it came from just like casascius' series 1 coins with the error in spelling.

[SaltySpitoon]

Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

If you left the coins unfunded until after they had passed through customs, you could declare about a $10 value per coin, and mark it as Collectable. You could probably declare them as $10 even funded, because I'm not sure how the post office would value Litecoins, but that could get messy I suppose. Also, that way, if something happened in transit, either the package got lost, or some jerk of a customs agent decided to keep the coins, your buyer would at least get 10 LTC back. From experience, the only time that I've ever had a package lost while shipping silver was sending it to Europe.

[smoothie]

Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

If you left the coins unfunded until after they had passed through customs, you could declare about a $10 value per coin, and mark it as Collectable. You could probably declare them as $10 even funded, because I'm not sure how the post office would value Litecoins, but that could get messy I suppose. Also, that way, if something happened in transit, either the package got lost, or some jerk of a customs agent decided to keep the coins, your buyer would at least get 10 LTC back. From experience, the only time that I've ever had a package lost while shipping silver was sending it to Europe.

My intentions were never to fund the coins before I shipped them as stated in the OP.

It is something I could try. No promises. If there is a loophole I can use then perhaps I will go that route declaring of the spot price of silver of the contents.

I plan on requiring all packages be shipped via registered mail. Then I can truly verify that someone got their coins as opposed to them just claiming they did or didn't. It removes the BS essentially. 

[zackclark70]

Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

If you left the coins unfunded until after they had passed through customs, you could declare about a $10 value per coin, and mark it as Collectable. You could probably declare them as $10 even funded, because I'm not sure how the post office would value Litecoins, but that could get messy I suppose. Also, that way, if something happened in transit, either the package got lost, or some jerk of a customs agent decided to keep the coins, your buyer would at least get 10 LTC back. From experience, the only time that I've ever had a package lost while shipping silver was sending it to Europe.

My intentions were never to fund the coins before I shipped them as stated in the OP.

It is something I could try. No promises. If there is a loophole I can use then perhaps I will go that route declaring of the spot price of silver of the contents.

I plan on requiring all packages be shipped via registered mail. Then I can truly verify that someone got their coins as opposed to them just claiming they did or didn't. It removes the BS essentially. 

feel free to post a link to this thread on www.altcointalk.co.uk site will be fully up and running soon 

[smoothie]

Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

If you left the coins unfunded until after they had passed through customs, you could declare about a $10 value per coin, and mark it as Collectable. You could probably declare them as $10 even funded, because I'm not sure how the post office would value Litecoins, but that could get messy I suppose. Also, that way, if something happened in transit, either the package got lost, or some jerk of a customs agent decided to keep the coins, your buyer would at least get 10 LTC back. From experience, the only time that I've ever had a package lost while shipping silver was sending it to Europe.

My intentions were never to fund the coins before I shipped them as stated in the OP.

It is something I could try. No promises. If there is a loophole I can use then perhaps I will go that route declaring of the spot price of silver of the contents.

I plan on requiring all packages be shipped via registered mail. Then I can truly verify that someone got their coins as opposed to them just claiming they did or didn't. It removes the BS essentially. 

feel free to post a link to this thread on www.altcointalk.co.uk site will be fully up and running soon 

You are more than welcome to post it. Sorry just been really busy getting everything organized for launch.

Thanks for this. 

[molecular]

Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

We use "collectible tokens" for our shipments.

[molecular]

I sent an email to customs and excise ( in the uk ) asking how much import duty I would have to pay on 2 coins told them the weight 99.9% fine silver coin

and the reply was I would have to pay 20% vat on the price I paid including postage + 5% handling fee +£18.99 for shipping from the customs warehouse

I work out the total cost as

£100 for 2 coins  (50ltc)

£15 for shipping from the us

£23 for vat

£8 handling fee

£19 postage from customs

total price for 2 coins in the uk is £165

And this, my friends, is why there should be an "invoice" (not just value declared on customs form CN 23 or whatever) (doesn't have to be on package, can be simple printout I take to the customs office). My experience with casascius coins was that customs kept asking for some "proof of payment" or "payment receipt". That's why I suggested to Mike (he didn't react to that yet) he should issue 2 invoices. 1 for the silver value + slight premium (pay through paypal or bitpay, so there's some payment receipt) and 1 for the "loading with btc" and his fat premium as a "loading charge" or whatever.