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Author Topic: ► ❎ ► LEALANA PHYSICAL LITECOINS FOR SALE - RESUMING SALES!!!  (Read 133734 times)
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July 03, 2013, 06:00:50 AM
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Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

We use "collectible tokens" for our shipments.


Good to know. thanks.

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July 03, 2013, 06:02:25 AM
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Yes, ~$40 per coin for this first batch. I suppose I will put on the customs form "collectibles" or something similar. The postal service has issues with exporting any legal tender coins, so saying "coins" may be a problem. I have encountered that issue in the past.

If you left the coins unfunded until after they had passed through customs, you could declare about a $10 value per coin, and mark it as Collectable. You could probably declare them as $10 even funded, because I'm not sure how the post office would value Litecoins, but that could get messy I suppose. Also, that way, if something happened in transit, either the package got lost, or some jerk of a customs agent decided to keep the coins, your buyer would at least get 10 LTC back. From experience, the only time that I've ever had a package lost while shipping silver was sending it to Europe.

customs know about this trick. Just declare some low value to save on taxes. While it's certainly plausible in this case, it would save a lot of hassle (and risk) if you had a payment receipt (or at least proper invoice) of that value.

EDIT: not all customs people are stupid or lazy. I had this one lady... she looked up the price of a bitcoin. I was sweating blood, I can tell you.

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July 03, 2013, 06:04:00 AM
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I sent an email to customs and excise ( in the uk ) asking how much import duty I would have to pay on 2 coins told them the weight 99.9% fine silver coin

and the reply was I would have to pay 20% vat on the price I paid including postage + 5% handling fee +£18.99 for shipping from the customs warehouse

I work out the total cost as

£100 for 2 coins  (50ltc)

£15 for shipping from the us

£23 for vat

£8 handling fee

£19 postage from customs

total price for 2 coins in the uk is £165

And this, my friends, is why there should be an "invoice" (not just value declared on customs form CN 23 or whatever) (doesn't have to be on package, can be simple printout I take to the customs office). My experience with casascius coins was that customs kept asking for some "proof of payment" or "payment receipt". That's why I suggested to Mike (he didn't react to that yet) he should issue 2 invoices. 1 for the silver value + slight premium (pay through paypal or bitpay, so there's some payment receipt) and 1 for the "loading with btc" and his fat premium as a "loading charge" or whatever.


I have had a lots of dealings with uk customs and I have found that no mater what is put on the invoice they charge random amounts
( I hade 5 boxes with 4 7950 gpus arrive from the us and I had different custom charges on each one yet they were all the same  Sad )

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July 03, 2013, 06:05:15 AM
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I sent an email to customs and excise ( in the uk ) asking how much import duty I would have to pay on 2 coins told them the weight 99.9% fine silver coin

and the reply was I would have to pay 20% vat on the price I paid including postage + 5% handling fee +£18.99 for shipping from the customs warehouse

I work out the total cost as

£100 for 2 coins  (50ltc)

£15 for shipping from the us

£23 for vat

£8 handling fee

£19 postage from customs

total price for 2 coins in the uk is £165

And this, my friends, is why there should be an "invoice" (not just value declared on customs form CN 23 or whatever) (doesn't have to be on package, can be simple printout I take to the customs office). My experience with casascius coins was that customs kept asking for some "proof of payment" or "payment receipt". That's why I suggested to Mike (he didn't react to that yet) he should issue 2 invoices. 1 for the silver value + slight premium (pay through paypal or bitpay, so there's some payment receipt) and 1 for the "loading with btc" and his fat premium as a "loading charge" or whatever.


I have had a lots of dealings with uk customs and I have found that no mater what is put on the invoice they charge random amounts
( I hade 5 boxes with 4 7950 gpus arrive from the us and I had different custom charges on each one yet they were all the same  Sad )

Just make it easy for them and include a proper invoice. That way they have an official document they can use to value the products.

EDIT: example of simple invoice: http://sbinfocanada.about.com/od/management/a/Simple-Invoice-Template.htm

also: There are these red plastic document wrappers that stick. They can be attached to the outside of packages to make it easy for customs. I think they even have a rule you should use these.

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July 03, 2013, 06:08:55 AM
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it box had the invoices from AMD in them ( AMD send 1000s of gpus out each year I would have guessed they know what they were doing )

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July 03, 2013, 06:17:17 AM
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From my point of view, it would be great if someone in Europe (molecular?) could handle the importing of those coins.  In this particular case, I would possibly also consider ordering a 0.5 BTC Casascius coin from them with the same shipment.  Since I'm in Austria, it would be far less hassle to have the shipping from Germany than directly from the US, and having to deal with customs myself.

If there will be any limit on the coins per person put up, I will gladly let them order my share in case a deal can be made.

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July 03, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
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Why not just send it as a gift and send the invoice by email ?

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July 03, 2013, 08:25:47 AM
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I'm just hoping I can mine enough btc/ltc before everything is spoken for.    Grin
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July 03, 2013, 11:16:12 AM
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Why not just send it as a gift and send the invoice by email ?

1. thats kinda fraud
2. In the UK atleast if the value is over a certain (low) amount then it can still be taxed even if it is a gift
3. If you marked the value low enough to slip through the radar untaxed but the parcel goes missing... compensation will be below item value.

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July 03, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
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These look beautiful! I'm in... let us know when you're taking orders.

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July 03, 2013, 10:10:51 PM
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I'll be in as well. Very nice.
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July 03, 2013, 11:09:16 PM
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Scam scam scam! You can again delete my post, but i will always get back to SAY TRUTH ABOUT YOU!
People this is scam! Dont be a sheep, dont pay in front anything!!!
Do you have some facts to backup your baseless claim? I don't see anything that suggests you do.
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July 04, 2013, 07:21:37 PM
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I can't wait for these, I'm definitely picking up some.

Great looking coins!

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July 04, 2013, 09:48:19 PM
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When shipping Canada/US and vise-verse I'm pretty sure there is no tax or customs on bullion. But it obviously has to be declared as such.
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July 06, 2013, 08:20:32 AM
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Accepting Orders Now!  Smiley

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July 06, 2013, 08:27:45 AM
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Not interested at 28 (in stead of 25)LTC and after recent LTC boom
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July 06, 2013, 08:34:28 AM
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Just sent a pm.

Man, these coins are collectible

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July 06, 2013, 09:17:11 AM
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I'm in for two coins.
Non-US shipping.
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July 06, 2013, 10:01:10 AM
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I'm in for two Tongue

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July 06, 2013, 10:44:05 AM
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74 LTC for two 10 LTC coins. That is quite a markup however you look at it. Loaded 60 LTC in prep for the release of these and can't believe I'm still sitting short!
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