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January 16, 2018, 07:58:52 PM
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Don't work optiminer recognise hd graphics card of motherboard and stops...

you have to specify correct opencl platform.
difers from system to system and amd/nvidia
look at help with -h
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January 16, 2018, 08:03:32 PM
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Optiminer has shut down his IP's for the old versions so we can not see how much he makes on our backs!

just disable fee with --nodevfee. (lookup options with -h)
Has no impact on hashrate, at least on my systems.
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January 16, 2018, 08:15:07 PM
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Don't work optiminer recognise hd graphics card of motherboard and stops...

you have to specify correct opencl platform.
difers from system to system and amd/nvidia
look at help with -h

How? Can you give me an example I am newbie Smiley
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January 17, 2018, 12:38:28 AM
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This should be an easy solve for anybody who knows about mining algo's. Personally this is the first time I've reviewed such, however tromp says

"the implementation supports (200,9) and (144,5) out of the box, and can easily adapt to other parameters by changing a few lines to select the appropriate bit segements from the hash."

https://github.com/tromp/equihash


Anyone up to the challenge? I am sure the community would provide some sort of bounty to liberate them from the closed source POS that is the current situation. Meanwhile, I will do more research and attempt to adjust, however ... I am sure a previously knowledgeable person would be able to help much quicker (and get a bounty) ..

Thanks and good day
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January 17, 2018, 12:42:50 AM
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Optiminer is now a car rental company.
Well, I did not rent anything. I put your freely distriduted software in my fcking computer. I am reverse engineering it righ now. Things are showing that you are stealing about 10% shares on the old versions.
If I confirm this, you're F*CKED!

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    Runner Up, $5,000 prize: tromp with https://github.com/tromp/equihash
    Runner Up, $3,000 prize: morpav with https://github.com/morpav/zceq_solver
    Runner Up, $2,000 prize: davidjaenson with https://github.com/davidjaenson/equihash

All of the above are OPEN SOURCE Zcash miners and I am sure they can be adjusted. I am doing the research now but somebody more knowledgeable (about mining algos) could likely get it done quicker.
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January 17, 2018, 12:45:53 AM
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Here is an example from log files

We thought a block was found but it was rejected by the daemon, share data: {"job":"d3a2","ip":"::ffff:x.x.x.x","port":2053,"worker":"t1xxxxxxxxxeL","height":236147,"difficulty":0.2,"shareDiff":"4596.03419805","blockDiff":1351.176112912,"blockDiffActual":1351.176112912,"blockHash":"0000007212f19755fb017650d29e3823cf44a2b5aca1cf90baa36f3152951c0f","error":{"unknown":"check coin daemon logs"}}

ERROR: CheckEquihashSolution(): invalid solution
ERROR: CheckBlockHeader(): Equihash solution invalid

Have you considered that the user might just have used the wrong hash algorithm param when connecting to the pool?




If the protocol is different it goes right away as an error on the first submit.

I have tested all the pools listed on the first page. They all report shares mined with a wrong algorithm as correct back to the miner:
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$ ./optiminer-equihash -a  equihash200_9 -s zer-eu.forgetop.com:2053 -u <...> -p x
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.055] [default] [info] Optiminer/Equihash 2.1.2 (C) Optiminer 2017
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.055] [default] [info] Connecting to zer-eu.forgetop.com:2053.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.149] [default] [info] Using 2 verifier threads.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.149] [default] [info] Using highly optimized kernel code for Fiji devices.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.149] [default] [info] Reading bianry kernel from bin-223600/Equihash200_9-Fiji.bin
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.150] [default] [info] Autodetected '--intensity 5' for device 0.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.192] [default] [info] Extranonce is '60000043'.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.233] [default] [info] Mining target is 0050000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.234] [default] [info] Got new work.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.260] [default] [info] [GPU0] Device info: {"id": "0/0" "name": "Fiji" "vendor": "AMD" "driver": "2482.3"}
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.314] [default] [info] Connected to zer-eu.forgetop.com:2053.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.464] [default] [info] Using highly optimized kernel code for Ellesmere devices.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.464] [default] [info] Reading bianry kernel from bin-223600/Equihash200_9-Ellesmere.bin
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.465] [default] [info] Autodetected '--intensity 5' for device 1.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.570] [default] [info] [GPU1] Device info: {"id": "0/1" "name": "Ellesmere" "vendor": "AMD" "driver": "2482.3"}
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.773] [default] [info] Using highly optimized kernel code for Ellesmere devices.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.773] [default] [info] Reading bianry kernel from bin-223600/Equihash200_9-Ellesmere.bin
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.773] [default] [info] Autodetected '--intensity 5' for device 2.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.879] [default] [info] [GPU2] Device info: {"id": "0/2" "name": "Ellesmere" "vendor": "AMD" "driver": "2482.3"}
[2018-01-17 01:43:01.015] [default] [info] [GPU2] Share accepted! (1 / 1)
[2018-01-17 01:43:02.549] [default] [info] [GPU0] Share accepted! (2 / 2)
[2018-01-17 01:43:03.061] [default] [info] [GPU2] Share accepted! (3 / 3)

It seems the pools internally filter those incorrect shares which is good. But they should be reported back to the miner as invalid.
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January 17, 2018, 12:49:58 AM
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Don't work optiminer recognise hd graphics card of motherboard and stops...

Use the --list-devices option to show all devices and their -c / -d params. Then choose the correct platform (-c) and list all the devices of that platform that you want to mine on (-d), e.g.,
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$ ./optiminer-equihash --list-devices
[2018-01-17 01:48:14.597] [default] [info] Optiminer/Equihash 2.1.2 (C) Optiminer 2017
Platform (-c) 0, Device (-d) 0:
  Platform Vendor: AMD
  Device Name: Fiji
  Driver Version: 2482.3
  Address bits: 64
  Available memory: 4284411904
  GCN Support: Gen 3
  Has device specific faster kernel (for equihash200_9): Yes
Platform (-c) 0, Device (-d) 1:
  Platform Vendor: AMD
  Device Name: Ellesmere
  Driver Version: 2482.3
  Address bits: 64
  Available memory: 4287418368
  GCN Support: Gen 4
  Has device specific faster kernel (for equihash200_9): Yes

$ ./optiminer-equihash -c 0 -d 0 -d 1 ...
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January 17, 2018, 12:57:04 AM
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This should be an easy solve for anybody who knows about mining algo's. Personally this is the first time I've reviewed such, however tromp says

"the implementation supports (200,9) and (144,5) out of the box, and can easily adapt to other parameters by changing a few lines to select the appropriate bit segements from the hash."

https://github.com/tromp/equihash


Anyone up to the challenge? I am sure the community would provide some sort of bounty to liberate them from the closed source POS that is the current situation. Meanwhile, I will do more research and attempt to adjust, however ... I am sure a previously knowledgeable person would be able to help much quicker (and get a bounty) ..

Thanks and good day
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January 17, 2018, 12:57:29 AM
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Optiminer is now a car rental company.
Well, I did not rent anything. I put your freely distriduted software in my fcking computer. I am reverse engineering it righ now. Things are showing that you are stealing about 10% shares on the old versions.
If I confirm this, you're F*CKED!

A GREED.


    CPU Winner, $10,000 prize: xenoncat with https://github.com/xenoncat/equihash-xenon
    GPU Winner, $10,000 prize: mbevand with https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy
    Runner Up, $5,000 prize: tromp with https://github.com/tromp/equihash
    Runner Up, $3,000 prize: morpav with https://github.com/morpav/zceq_solver
    Runner Up, $2,000 prize: davidjaenson with https://github.com/davidjaenson/equihash

All of the above are OPEN SOURCE Zcash miners and I am sure they can be adjusted. I am doing the research now but somebody more knowledgeable (about mining algos) could likely get it done quicker.

Oops.. Am I really talking to myself?
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January 17, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
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Who dump price   Shocked
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January 17, 2018, 01:17:46 AM
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Who dump price   Shocked

Have you seen the ENTIRE market? Lost oh say $300BLN from the market cap..
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January 17, 2018, 01:47:49 AM
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Hey guys I like that you have no rip off developers fee implemented but how do you actually fund yourself? Can we be sure that you are in it for the long run?

They did add a 1% fee to mining pool for expenses. .
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January 17, 2018, 02:15:21 AM
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Hey guys I like that you have no rip off developers fee implemented but how do you actually fund yourself? Can we be sure that you are in it for the long run?

They did add a 1% fee to mining pool for expenses. .

Yes we haven't implemented this yet because it is later as per Roadmap but we are going to.
Firstly community pool will be released with 0% fee.
When pool is stable enough and strong enough we will have a small fee like 1% to fund our development

This is it. Nothing more, nothing less..

Although we have managed to reach a 1780% in less than 2 months without funding (mainly from small community donations and from personal capital)
In numbers that is going from 7 cents to 12.5$

You can imagine what we can do with 1% funding right?


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January 17, 2018, 02:16:42 AM
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there is no reward program
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January 17, 2018, 02:31:09 AM
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I think we need one more miner app
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January 17, 2018, 02:41:08 AM
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I think we need one more miner app

We are working on adapting this one, it should be simple.. this miner won $10k from Zcash for best GPU miner.

https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy

however, I don't have the proper equipment to test it on my machine.. yet..

who has windows dev environment with gpu's Huh??
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January 17, 2018, 03:55:08 AM
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Looks like the artificially created bitcoin bubble is correcting itself now. It is sad that everyone chose to pay so much for the bitcoin because now the whole market suffers. And the limitation of btc trading pairs on all exchanges. The bitcoin was ballooned because the banks pushed their fiat money around the board to trick everyone. this in turn ballooned all of the cryptos and everyone thought they had a bunch of 'free money' to spend on shitcoins and push around the board. Since it was all based on bitcoin, and the banks are now allowing the bubble to burst (because bitcoin is now traded on wallstreet and they can steal everyones money back or their silly stock exchange) , now all of the coins suffer.

What is the moral of the story?

Support the coins that are worthy. Bitcoin has been owned by the banks and "big money" for quite some time. of course they have control over the entire market now. time to wake up folks.

(just my two sense kindly receive with a grain of salt)

Looks like the bitcoin is losing a hundred dollars each minute, every time I refresh the page...
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January 17, 2018, 04:31:18 AM
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Hey guys I like that you have no rip off developers fee implemented but how do you actually fund yourself? Can we be sure that you are in it for the long run?

They did add a 1% fee to mining pool for expenses. .

Yes we haven't implemented this yet because it is later as per Roadmap but we are going to.
Firstly community pool will be released with 0% fee.
When pool is stable enough and strong enough we will have a small fee like 1% to fund our development

This is it. Nothing more, nothing less..

Although we have managed to reach a 1780% in less than 2 months without funding (mainly from small community donations and from personal capital)
In numbers that is going from 7 cents to 12.5$

You can imagine what we can do with 1% funding right?


DM

I am pretty certain you mean 70 cents to 12.5 USD, right?  Grin
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January 17, 2018, 06:21:37 AM
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Here is an example from log files

We thought a block was found but it was rejected by the daemon, share data: {"job":"d3a2","ip":"::ffff:x.x.x.x","port":2053,"worker":"t1xxxxxxxxxeL","height":236147,"difficulty":0.2,"shareDiff":"4596.03419805","blockDiff":1351.176112912,"blockDiffActual":1351.176112912,"blockHash":"0000007212f19755fb017650d29e3823cf44a2b5aca1cf90baa36f3152951c0f","error":{"unknown":"check coin daemon logs"}}

ERROR: CheckEquihashSolution(): invalid solution
ERROR: CheckBlockHeader(): Equihash solution invalid

Have you considered that the user might just have used the wrong hash algorithm param when connecting to the pool?





If the protocol is different it goes right away as an error on the first submit.

I have tested all the pools listed on the first page. They all report shares mined with a wrong algorithm as correct back to the miner:
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$ ./optiminer-equihash -a  equihash200_9 -s zer-eu.forgetop.com:2053 -u <...> -p x
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.055] [default] [info] Optiminer/Equihash 2.1.2 (C) Optiminer 2017
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.055] [default] [info] Connecting to zer-eu.forgetop.com:2053.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.149] [default] [info] Using 2 verifier threads.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.149] [default] [info] Using highly optimized kernel code for Fiji devices.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.149] [default] [info] Reading bianry kernel from bin-223600/Equihash200_9-Fiji.bin
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.150] [default] [info] Autodetected '--intensity 5' for device 0.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.192] [default] [info] Extranonce is '60000043'.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.233] [default] [info] Mining target is 0050000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.234] [default] [info] Got new work.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.260] [default] [info] [GPU0] Device info: {"id": "0/0" "name": "Fiji" "vendor": "AMD" "driver": "2482.3"}
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.314] [default] [info] Connected to zer-eu.forgetop.com:2053.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.464] [default] [info] Using highly optimized kernel code for Ellesmere devices.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.464] [default] [info] Reading bianry kernel from bin-223600/Equihash200_9-Ellesmere.bin
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.465] [default] [info] Autodetected '--intensity 5' for device 1.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.570] [default] [info] [GPU1] Device info: {"id": "0/1" "name": "Ellesmere" "vendor": "AMD" "driver": "2482.3"}
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.773] [default] [info] Using highly optimized kernel code for Ellesmere devices.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.773] [default] [info] Reading bianry kernel from bin-223600/Equihash200_9-Ellesmere.bin
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.773] [default] [info] Autodetected '--intensity 5' for device 2.
[2018-01-17 01:42:59.879] [default] [info] [GPU2] Device info: {"id": "0/2" "name": "Ellesmere" "vendor": "AMD" "driver": "2482.3"}
[2018-01-17 01:43:01.015] [default] [info] [GPU2] Share accepted! (1 / 1)
[2018-01-17 01:43:02.549] [default] [info] [GPU0] Share accepted! (2 / 2)
[2018-01-17 01:43:03.061] [default] [info] [GPU2] Share accepted! (3 / 3)

It seems the pools internally filter those incorrect shares which is good. But they should be reported back to the miner as invalid.


The pool always get warnings when zcash solution is submited:

 Share rejected: {"job":"ccd0","ip":"::ffff:x.x.x.x","worker":"xxxxx.xxx","difficulty":0.01,"error":"incorrect size of solution"}

And also there is no hashrate.

Unfortunately this is not the case with the problem. Not a single warning is presented in the log files.

Those ppl have good steady hasrate, everything is OK, just when it comes to finding block it got rejected from zcashd.

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January 17, 2018, 08:37:36 AM
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Hi;

I don't know why, my Win 7 OS rig don't work properly with the optimer 1.2.0 + GTX 1080 Ti GPUs while working properly with the  optimer 1.2.0 + RX480 8gb and RX580 8Gb rigs. It is keep crashing in 30 or 40 minutes. I set virtual memory to 12 Gb for each GTX (6 GTX * 12 Gb) If I use -d command miner chrash in a few secon, with -c at very beginig. Any ideas?

Kind regards
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