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[Vlad2Vlad]

Incorrect, programmers can be bought from India for /10th the price and or course they'll pay Americsn programmers their $70K, that's not big money.  An MBA grad starts at $250K, plus bonuses, this is a fact.

Experienced programmers make a lot more than $70K.  There are very few software developers with PhD.  That is just your nonsense that Phd = better.  I have worked for a lot of senior project developers and none had PhDs.  One might have had a masters but honestly nobody cared.  What matters is experience solving real world problems none of which is learned in college.

And no, it's not the programmers that make the big money as far as coding - it's the PhD physicists and mathematicians who then fell the programmers what models and programs to build and these are called black boxes which do high frequency trading which do in fact are responsive for a huge % of the trading activity and they make lots if money, but the bulk of the money, the big money is still made by traders, economists, heads if hedge finds, etc because a black box can't predict the future I'd see a good buy it simply trades in milliseconds based on a preprogrammed trend or news and it simply beats the human reaction time.

Once again I actually worked on statistical models for risk analysis and nobody on our team had a PhD.  None.  Models that were used in the pricing of tens of billions of dollars in distress assets.  A half dozen computer science professionals (db engineers, developers, project managers) and a few statisticans no PhD.  

Then again this is like a chef explaining to a guy who ate a hamburger once how culinary arts works.   As for every MBA making $250K starting well that is just silly.  Then again how much are you making on unemployment?  My guess is less than $250K.

Lol, once again you're clueless.  I personally know people I went to school with who got jobs for JPmorgan et al and with only a bachelors they were starting at $80K, no programmer starts that high with a bachelors unless you're at google or MICROSOSFT or a few companies, on wallstreet that's the norm.  I know programmers working for Fortune 500 companies with a BS and 10 years experience and they make $70K. Can some make 200K, sure, but many don't.  You're quoting the top 10%.  Please go to salary.com and I bet anything a programmer doesn't even average $70K.

And then these banks will pay for you to get your MBA, while you're working, right there in New York and the day you graduate they bump you to sr analyst and your base pay goes to $250K.  This is an industry fact.  And this was more than 10 years ago when this was happening.

 And the bonuses are easily over $100K at that point.  Real Bankers make 100 times the money of programmers.  After 10 years on wallstreet regardless if you're a trader or analyst, if you're making less than $800K total with bonuses that means you're not that good.  Many make millions once they get in Sr positions or start their own hedge funds if they're really good and make hundreds of millions.

Banking is big on bonus pay and incentives which programmers are lucky to work for a company that gives them $20k bonus let alone $100K, which on wallstreet is considered newbie money.

I'm speaking from hard experience, I worked 10 years for the 2 biggest biggest banks in the US, and I had access to all internal jobs and their starting pay and I personally graduated with people who moved to New York with a lower GPA than mine and in a few years $250K was considered average.

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[DeathAndTaxes]

No doubt some bankers make a lot but that is hardly the claim that EVERYONE with an MBA makes $250K.  Case in point you are currently making nothing. Imagine that.  I would point out that unemployment in the IT sector is about 3%.  Why?  Oh yeah because developers, network engineers, database architects, etc are indispensible.  Any company which fired their IT staff would no longer exist in a few months.

According to Salary average salary for application programmers in CA is $94,000 with 25% making more than $108K.  BTW less than 1% of application developers have a PhD, so yes that means it is a statistical impossibility for most of the high paid (say top 10%) programmers to have doctorates.  Some of those filthy programmers making six figures have lowly bachelors degrees and in some cases ... <GASP> no degree at all.   The horrors.

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/Applications-Programmer-Salary-Details-San-Jose-CA.aspx?&hdcbxbonuse=off&isshowpiechart=false&isshowjobchart=false&isshowsalarydetailcharts=true&isshownextsteps=true&isshowcompanyfct=true&isshowaboutyou=true

As for as every MBA making $250K the second they get their degree.  That has never been true and certainly isn't now.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-23/mba-salary-expectations-sober-reckoning-or-wishful-thinking

Salary expections for MBA drops 10% to $113K.


So simple version you are not right (but you should be used to it by now).

[Vlad2Vlad]

No doubt some bankers make a lot but that is hardly the claim that EVERYONE with an MBA makes $250K.  Case in point you are currently making nothing. Imagine that.  I would point out that unemployment in the IT sector is about 3%.  Why?  Oh yeah because developers, network engineers, database architects, etc are indispensible.  Any company which fired their IT staff would no longer exist in a few months.

According to Salary average salary for application programmers in CA is $94,000 with 25% making more than $108K.  BTW less than 1% of application developers have a PhD, so yes that means it is a statistical impossibility for most of the high paid (say top 10%) programmers to have doctorates.  Some of those filthy programmers making six figures have lowly bachelors degrees and in some cases ... <GASP> no degree at all.   The horrors.

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/Applications-Programmer-Salary-Details-San-Jose-CA.aspx?&hdcbxbonuse=off&isshowpiechart=false&isshowjobchart=false&isshowsalarydetailcharts=true&isshownextsteps=true&isshowcompanyfct=true&isshowaboutyou=true

So simple version you are not right (but you should be used to it by now).

Lol, you're comparing California with the rest of America?  I used new york cause that was my prime example of where my friends went to work.

Secondly, I live in Oregon, go on Craigslist and type in mortgage underwriter, securities analyst, economist, lol, you're lucky if 3 jobs pop up.  All the banker jobs are in San Fran, Chicago and New York.  But I can't move, I'm rooted here.  

During the peak of the mortgage industry just my monthly bonus was $2,000 per month.  No programmer gets that unless you work for maybe google.

And California is known to have the highest salaries in the country cause our last home where I grew up, in An average Bay Area neighborhood, with merely 1,700 sq feet and a pool was selling for $900,000 just 5 years ago and now its $700,000.  People can't survive in California on Oregon salaries.  Look up programmers in Oregon.  Lol, $70K is actually a really good salary.  Compare apples to apples.

[Vlad2Vlad]

I meant monster.com, that's what I used to use for job searches.  I recently started using Craigslist. Up until 5 years ago there were pages of jobs for mortgage underwriters for example, now if 3 jobs pop up I'm lucky but many times its zero jobs in Oregon or a temp service.

And this is Monster.com, they always had tons of job listings.  Things have changed and I provably have to move back to California.  I hate Oregon anyway, this place is depressing and I've never gotten used to it.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Off topic question (as if):

I may be getting a job offer in property management.  Basically interviewing and doing background checks and renting rental properties.  Man, I've always hated sales but right now I'll take anything.

Does anybody know more about this type of job?  Like is it a decent job as far as fulfillment and stress goes?  If I don't make good money I at least want a Jon I'd enjoy in some way or a job with less stress than a good paying job.  TIA!

[whlx]

Where can Nuggets be traded?

When can we see Nuggets in Cryptsy or Coins-E or anyother?

They're on icycryptcy right now.

And poof! It's gone!   iceycrypt says "Sorry the site is going down!" and "Sorry the site is going down! PLEASE CANCEL ALL TRADES!"   Hattip r3wt.



Annnnd more fun in chatbox:

"...the market has been shutdown because of errors that we are unable to resolve in a timely manner."

"Everything is just going back to the owner since the trade system got fucked up"

Still   iceycrypt.com is not runnin yet?

[Vlad2Vlad]

Whix:

That was r3's exchange.  If I had to guess it has served its purpose and you won't see it again for quite a while, if ever. It's only been 2 weeks.  Mine this coin if you believe in it long term and an exchange will come if I do the right things and get enough bounty money together.  

I've opened myself up for any job at this point just for this coin and to build mining rigs.  Screw banking jobs, whatever I find I'll take and 75% of my net income will be rigs and this coin.

When I do something I go all out, I only have 2 gears, neutral and really fast.

[r3wt]

Whix:

That was r3's exchange.

no it wasn't. i was just moderator there. the owner was the user "Forsaken" and he doesn't use these forums. i posted the ANN.

sidenote: if you have coins deposited in the exchange, withdraw them. still quite a bit of coins yet to be claimed.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Whix:

That was r3's exchange.

no it wasn't. i was just moderator there. the owner was the user "Forsaken" and he doesn't use these forums. i posted the ANN.

sidenote: if you have coins deposited in the exchange, withdraw them. still quite a bit of coins yet to be claimed.

I'm sorry.  Someone else said it was yours.

Thanks for the heads up.

[mnyonpa]

no it wasn't. i was just moderator there. the owner was the user "Forsaken" and he doesn't use these forums. i posted the ANN.

Sorry for spreading misinformation.

[greyhawk]

Off topic question (as if):

I may be getting a job offer in property management.  Basically interviewing and doing background checks and renting rental properties.  Man, I've always hated sales but right now I'll take anything.

Does anybody know more about this type of job?  Like is it a decent job as far as fulfillment and stress goes?  If I don't make good money I at least want a Jon I'd enjoy in some way or a job with less stress than a good paying job.  TIA!

"Property Manager" is newspeak for "janitor". I suppose it's an interesting enough job what with the trying to unclog other people's toilets and old women trying to get boned by you. And the cat urine. Can't forget that.

[AgentME]

Incorrect, programmers can be bought from India for /10th the price and or course they'll pay Americsn programmers their $70K, that's not big money.

With programmers, you get what you pay for. (Surely you've learned that very recently!)

To make money you have to understand money not the way the printing press works.  That's absurd.  You guys are calling me a fool cause I have no idea how Bitcoin's printing press works.  I say who gives an F.  Can I change it?  Does it matter? No.  No.  So why waste effort end memory space on useless info when I know I'll pick up the idea of it eventually.

You tried to launch your own coin, and you even specified the parameters for how it ought to work. Both of those being attempted by someone without a clue is hilarious.

[jackjack]

Incorrect, programmers can be bought from India for /10th the price and or course they'll pay Americsn programmers their $70K, that's not big money.

With programmers, you get what you pay for. (Surely you've learned that very recently!)

Are there some fields in which you can pay shit but can receive a decent work?

[ilovealtcoins]

I'm not sure how any of that relates to my post, but that last sentence is full of errors. The financial industry pays extremely well for good programmers as far as I've heard. And financial institutions pretty much entirely rely on computers these days, so to say they "do ZERO actual money making for the banks" seems to show a huge lack of understanding. (If that were true, why would banks even hire programmers?)

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Incorrect, programmers can be bought from India for /10th the price and or course they'll pay Americsn programmers their $70K, that's not big money.  An MBA grad starts at $250K, plus bonuses, this is a fact.


And no, it's not the programmers that make the big money as far as coding - it's the PhD physicists and mathematicians who then fell the programmers what models and programs to build and these are called black boxes which do high frequency trading which do in fact are responsive for a huge % of the trading activity and they make lots if money, but the bulk of the money, the big money is still made by traders, economists, heads if hedge finds, etc because a black box can't predict the future I'd see a good buy it simply trades in milliseconds based on a preprogrammed trend or news and it simply beats the human reaction time.

I wasn't talking about this, and even this, you don't need to get to be a trader or economist, but I was referring to the fact the infrastructure computers, software, hardware, and inflows and outflows of Nasdaq matters none to a trader, absolutely zero.

To make money you have to understand money not the way the printing press works.  That's absurd.  You guys are calling me a fool cause I have no idea how Bitcoin's printing press works.  I say who gives an F.  Can I change it?  Does it matter? No.  No.  So why waste effort end memory space on useless info when I know I'll pick up the idea of it eventually.

Uhhhmmmm Vlad, You do release that you tried to release a coin called "Nuggets - The miners coin" And you don't even understand what mining does/why it's important. Seems pretty backwards to me.

[Damnsammit]

Uhhhmmmm Vlad, You do release that you tried to release a coin called "Nuggets - The miners coin" And you don't even understand what mining does/why it's important. Seems pretty backwards to me.

Don't forget that he also pre-mined and then gave that away to the people bashing him and not a single coin to someone who was actually mining this turd nugget.

The stupidity is vast with vlad

[jackjack]

Uhhhmmmm Vlad, You do release that you tried to release a coin called "Nuggets - The miners coin" And you don't even understand what mining does/why it's important. Seems pretty backwards to me.

Yeah it's pretty strange

[ilovealtcoins]

Uhhhmmmm Vlad, You do release that you tried to release a coin called "Nuggets - The miners coin" And you don't even understand what mining does/why it's important. Seems pretty backwards to me.

Yeah it's pretty strange

Even the worst coin creators know a lot abut crypto currency and how it works. I read for months and months on end. This was before I even wanted to release my own coin. I just found crypto currency fascinating. I also enjoy the white paper too.

Vlad, If you want to re-release this coin I would suggest at least reading the Bitcoin whitepaper before releasing it. It is truly a good read.

[frobley]

we keep coming back simply because it's so unbelievably funny 

[twobits]

And we have our first VGB   http://nuggets.21stcenturymoneytalk.org/index.php?tx=1e7f7124cf4462db525a9bffbd297bd9048d84f9d6e8518329db540d318ecc65

[Hippie Tech]

You guy must be the most pathetic douche bag trolls I've ever seen.

You do realize that he's probably just feeding you stuff to keep you goin ?

So what if someone isn't a coder, tekkie or crypto expert ! He's trying and unlike you nooobs, he's learning something.

I'm not here to argue or respond to any more of your dribble. I just wanted to take the opportunity to say, YOU SUCK.

@jack jack  

HT xD