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August 07, 2013, 07:15:33 PM
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i think Yifu - Bitsyncom cant deliver the chips, because they have no chips Sad

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This is the payment address for chip orders: https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
It currently has a balance of 75,779.8 BTC with no withdrawals.
So doesn't it look like they haven't paid TSMC for chip production?
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August 07, 2013, 07:17:16 PM
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i think Yifu - Bitsyncom cant deliver the chips, because they have no chips Sad

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This is the payment address for chip orders: https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
It currently has a balance of 75,779.8 BTC with no withdrawals.
So doesn't it look like they haven't paid TSMC for chip production?

Yifu doesnt have to pay much for the chipproduction. They earned enough money from the miners before so they dont need to use the money from that address.

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August 07, 2013, 07:18:56 PM
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He once said he does not control the address.
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August 07, 2013, 07:21:54 PM
Last edit: August 07, 2013, 07:32:34 PM by Bitcoinorama
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i think Yifu - Bitsyncom cant deliver the chips, because they have no chips Sad

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This is the payment address for chip orders: https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
It currently has a balance of 75,779.8 BTC with no withdrawals.
So doesn't it look like they haven't paid TSMC for chip production?

Yifu doesnt have to pay much for the chipproduction. They earned enough money from the miners before so they dont need to use the money from that address.


VICE: This is an obvious question, but why aren’t you mining your own chips?

Yifu: Like I said, the current reality is vastly different from what we originally had planned. We always figured we would be late to the party. Butterfly Labs and bASIC (another ASIC developer that ultimately failed to launch) were supposed to launch in succession. But due to various complications and delays, it didn’t work out that way.

If they had delivered on their promises, they would have shipped months before our first batch. We wanted to start selling chips so people could make their own units, providing a hedge from a single entity becoming too powerful, and then move onto a new project. That was our main goal. We wanted to prevent this potential monopoly. As it turned out, we became the monopoly we tried to prevent.

VICE: You aren’t doing any mining at all?

Yifu: Nope. Fun fact: none of the Avalon team have their own mining units (outside of test units).


http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/engineering-the-bitcoin-gold-rush-an-interview-with-yifu-guo-creator-of-the-first-asic-based-miner#ixzz2bJSc9dJX

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August 07, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
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Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

Here is just an email address..
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1383-so-here-avalon-asics-3rd-batch-scenario-fyi.html

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August 07, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
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Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

Here is just an email address..
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1383-so-here-avalon-asics-3rd-batch-scenario-fyi.html

You may as well paste it here dude; ngzhang@avalon-asic.com

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August 07, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
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Ill try the email but if its true they parted its not likely the mail will reach its target. But without trying no chance at all.

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August 07, 2013, 07:45:51 PM
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I was wondering too.

Did you get a reply from Yifu ?

I emailed the info@ address and got a reply from NG Zhang about an hour later. I have yet to receive a follow up reply.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I've contacted a few clone builders and am going to take everything apart right now to get an idea of what parts I need and how much they will cost.


So it seems NGzgang, answered this guy.
Maybe some one should try emailing him?

Komuto Herovato is definitely the chief engineer of bfl)
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August 07, 2013, 07:52:24 PM
Last edit: August 08, 2013, 12:52:26 AM by AdamKD
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Ill try the email but if its true they parted its not likely the mail will reach its target. But without trying no chance at all.



Yifu Guo:
(This looks right, might not be ... https://plus.google.com/115522189507514183090/about ...  a lot of ppl from Brooklyn Polytechnic have him in circles and a "Bitcoin Advocate" ... also Jeff Garzik (https://plus.google.com/105424721218711536033) is a person he's following.  Same with Gavin Anderson ("https://plus.google.com/117494054859918211010") )
http://www.linkedin.com/in/yifuguo
https://github.com/yifuguo
yifu.guo@bitsyn.com
yguo01@gmail.com
http://bitsyn.com
http://www.reddit.com/user/yifuguo

( His work and cell 380-115-6072 and 347-370-9069) from ("https://109.201.133.65/index.php?topic=211593.msg2230878#msg2230878")

(Managing Member - YIFU GUO
Address 1:     2282 E15   Address 2:    
City:     BROOKLYN   State:     NY
Zip Code:     11229   Country:    
Status:     Active   Email:     ) from ("https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=ozwghIfOnmFj64qH4nYDaA%253d%253d")

(Registrant Contact:
  
   Yifu Guo ()
  
   Fax:
   2282 EAST 15th STREET
   FIRST FLOOR
   BROOKLYN, P 11229
   US) from ("http://whois.domaintools.com/yifuguo.com")

(yguo01@gmail.com) from ("https://dominder.com/bitcoinstore.us")

(Yifu Guo
skype: yifu.guo
http://bitsyn.com
1-(347)-370-9069
"Life is an everlasting self-improvement.") from ("https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/babycastles/65zLZJYLsck", "http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/2094")

("http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/2094" ->  You can scrape that page for contact info of people who interacted with him to contact those if you want.)

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2013/02/01/10389481/Avalon_Press_Release.pdf ---->  "Brooklyn Native"


ngzhang:
https://github.com/ngzhang

https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus    (Signed-off-by: ngzhang <ngzhang1983@msn.com>)
("If you want to join this project and make some changes, please e-mail me: ngzhang1983@msn.com")

(CONTACT:

email: ngzhang1983@msn.com
QQ: 17568957) from ("https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110090.0")



xiangfu:
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=46727)

https://github.com/xiangfu

xiangfu@openmobilefree.net
http://www.openmobilefree.net
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August 07, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
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I chose to invest (probably more than I should have) on the belief that I was investing in a system free from the "big guys". With Yifu's failure and other realizations..I care for bitcoin no more. A neat experiment..ultimately corrupted and soiled the in the same ways all things tied to money always are.

How do you make more USD than mining bitcoins? Rip off the entire (willfully overstated) community with shitty and probably illegal methods. I look forward to a lawsuit against Mr. Yifu Guo. I don't even hope to collect. My money's already gone..or so I must believe.

Thanks Avalon. DIAF.

Thankfully, there are other ways to get bitcoins.  You can simply buy them. 

See ya.
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August 07, 2013, 08:03:38 PM
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Maybe his FB
https://www.facebook.com/yifu.guo.1


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August 07, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
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Thanks! Might be useful. Ill try my luck.

Ill try the email but if its true they parted its not likely the mail will reach its target. But without trying no chance at all.



yifu guo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/yifuguo
https://github.com/yifuguo
yifu.guo@bitsyn.com
http://bitsyn.com




ngzhang:
https://github.com/ngzhang

https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus    (Signed-off-by: ngzhang <ngzhang1983@msn.com>)
("If you want to join this project and make some changes, please e-mail me: ngzhang1983@msn.com")




xiangfu:
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=46727)

https://github.com/xiangfu

xiangfu@openmobilefree.net
http://www.openmobilefree.net

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August 07, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
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Thankfully, there are other ways to get bitcoins.  You can simply buy them. 

See ya.

You have got to be trolling.  Should we buy them with the money that we already spent on avalon chips to mine them?  Or are we all suddenly independently wealthy?  I must have missed the memo, guess I'll be watching my mailbox for that check  ;P
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August 07, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
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Xiangfu was commenting in this forum as recent as two days ago.

I would also contact the guy who posted this;

http://imgur.com/a/GR0e3

Apparently it originated from here;

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

But I don't read Chinese.

EDIT: Found this though: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252233.msg2682662#msg2682662

Who is Yuchuanzhen? What is his connection to Bitsyncom? Huh

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August 07, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
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Xiangfu was commenting in this forum as recent as two days ago.

I would also contact the guy who posted this;

http://imgur.com/a/GR0e3

Apparently it originated from here;

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

But I don't read Chinese.

EDIT: Found this though: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252233.msg2682662#msg2682662

The guy who posted pics on btcman.com has this email in his signature

"Business cooperation, please contact gridchip@gmail.com"

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August 07, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
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Xiangfu was commenting in this forum as recent as two days ago.

I would also contact the guy who posted this;

http://imgur.com/a/GR0e3

Apparently it originated from here;

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

But I don't read Chinese.

EDIT: Found this though: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252233.msg2682662#msg2682662

Who is Yuchuanzhen? What is his connection to Bitsyncom? Huh

Here is the info via Google translate for the "owner" of http://fidelhl.cn.1688.com/

Name: Chan Chuen

Business Email: tobychen@aliyun.com

Maybe he knows about the Avalon chips seeing as he posted the pics?

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August 07, 2013, 08:27:48 PM
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Here is the info via Google translate for the "owner" of http://fidelhl.cn.1688.com/

Name: Chan Chuen

Business Email: tobychen@aliyun.com

Maybe he knows about the Avalon chips seeing as he posted the pics?



fidelhl
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114950

Also, interesting posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256453.msg2731615#msg2731615

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252233.msg2694806#msg2694806

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230825.msg2426482#msg2426482

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230109.msg2426067#msg2426067
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August 07, 2013, 08:29:43 PM
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I registered in that forum now too. I sent emails to ngzhang@avalon-asic.com, info@avalon-asic.com, ngzhang1983@msn.com, xiangfu@openmobilefree.net, gridchip@gmail.com and tobychen@aliyun.com now. They reach, i demanded server answer when they are delivered. Lets see if one of them answers and know more.

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August 07, 2013, 08:29:56 PM
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Boom! from this thread two days ago; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264696.msg2868479#msg2868479

Hello everyone...er... Hello every shareholder,

About that "big news" regards to Avalon:  

 From a thread at btcman.com that was posted by a ID called "gridchip" last month, we (incl. all btcman`s members) can sure that Avalon team do have a big discord inside. It was written in chinese and need to register&login to read ,so I d prefer not giving the link here (all chinese shareholders can find it at "比特币挖矿区" board) However, I hardly believe the rest of this news is real.


I believe this is the link;

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

Do we have any Chinese readers?

What does it say?

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August 07, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
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How about putting up Yifu Wanted posters, like in the days of the wild west all over NY city (or wherever he hangs out).

Smoke him out from where he is hiding  Grin
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