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July 25, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
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Some information about the upcoming Arionum updates:
- There will be a hard fork at block 80.000 which will update the mining system and will implement the alias system.
- The development has been finished on both mining and the alias system. Currently they are undergoing tests.
- The mining system will be changed to a hybrid mining system in which 1 block is given to CPU miners, 1 to GPU and 1 to masternode staking.
- Masternodes will be implemented starting block 80.000
- To create a masternode you will need 100.000 ARO and you will lock those funds as colateral for minimum 3+1 months.
- The masternodes will be winning blocks based on a Proof of Stake system.
- There is no limit on the number of the total masternodes.
- The masternodes will be used for the project governance and for taking decisions regarding the Arionum blockchain. For example, voting for new features etc (implemented at a later stage)
- The masternodes will be used for handling asset transactions (implemented at a later stage)
- It's possible to implement some sort of sidechain for much faster transactions using the masternodes, at a later date.
- We have implemented a bootstrapping feature to have the nodes do the initial sync much faster.


Very cool news. Would like to know more about the masternodes. How will the locking period work ? and how are the minimal requirements to run one?

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July 25, 2018, 12:05:29 PM
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Some information about the upcoming Arionum updates:
- There will be a hard fork at block 80.000 which will update the mining system and will implement the alias system.
- The development has been finished on both mining and the alias system. Currently they are undergoing tests.
- The mining system will be changed to a hybrid mining system in which 1 block is given to CPU miners, 1 to GPU and 1 to masternode staking.
- Masternodes will be implemented starting block 80.000
- To create a masternode you will need 100.000 ARO and you will lock those funds as colateral for minimum 3+1 months.
- The masternodes will be winning blocks based on a Proof of Stake system.
- There is no limit on the number of the total masternodes.
- The masternodes will be used for the project governance and for taking decisions regarding the Arionum blockchain. For example, voting for new features etc (implemented at a later stage)
- The masternodes will be used for handling asset transactions (implemented at a later stage)
- It's possible to implement some sort of sidechain for much faster transactions using the masternodes, at a later date.
- We have implemented a bootstrapping feature to have the nodes do the initial sync much faster.


Wojow! The most interesting thing (at least for me..) is that Alias system, for what i know u guys are the first with an system what are people asking about since years!
Sync is already going fast, but an update for bootstrap is always good (a future thing in my eyes).

100k aro is a lil bit much for running an masternode-staking, maybe this is a point to think about.
Suggestion (if possible):
10k aro u can start staking (how more aro u have, how beter the stake)
50k aro u can start masternode-stake

100k is a lot of aro, totally if u hold in ur mind that the price can go up very fast with this nice hard fork. If the price will go to 20-30 dollar/euro for 1 aro, u need to spend a lot, a lot of money to start staking-masternode. This 100k aro is (in my point of view) not future proof Smiley

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July 25, 2018, 03:47:03 PM
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an article somewhere about Arionum would be really great

I am CPU mining Aquachain right now. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3138231
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July 25, 2018, 04:05:12 PM
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also I found a couple of small typos in the website. hit me up if you want more info

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July 25, 2018, 08:02:50 PM
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Apart from 100k ARO, which I think is fine and measured amount (and which should limit constant dumping we saw in the recent months), what are the other requirements to meet? If one would like to run more than one masternode, I guess that would mean running separate wallets, or would there be some other solution?

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July 25, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
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Some information about the upcoming Arionum updates:
- There will be a hard fork at block 80.000 which will update the mining system and will implement the alias system.
- The development has been finished on both mining and the alias system. Currently they are undergoing tests.
- The mining system will be changed to a hybrid mining system in which 1 block is given to CPU miners, 1 to GPU and 1 to masternode staking.
- Masternodes will be implemented starting block 80.000
- To create a masternode you will need 100.000 ARO and you will lock those funds as colateral for minimum 3+1 months.
- The masternodes will be winning blocks based on a Proof of Stake system.
- There is no limit on the number of the total masternodes.
- The masternodes will be used for the project governance and for taking decisions regarding the Arionum blockchain. For example, voting for new features etc (implemented at a later stage)
- The masternodes will be used for handling asset transactions (implemented at a later stage)
- It's possible to implement some sort of sidechain for much faster transactions using the masternodes, at a later date.
- We have implemented a bootstrapping feature to have the nodes do the initial sync much faster.



future moon will be great for ARO!

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July 25, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
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How about updated miner software?

When Dan, Cuby, CryptoGone update their miners, I'm sure they will announce it. I know Dan and Cuby have been very proactive (asking AroDev questions, etc.).
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July 25, 2018, 09:05:50 PM
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Apart from 100k ARO, which I think is fine and measured amount (and which should limit constant dumping we saw in the recent months), what are the other requirements to meet? If one would like to run more than one masternode, I guess that would mean running separate wallets, or would there be some other solution?

Yes you can run more than one MN. It is suggested you run each MN on a separate VPS/server. From what I heard, 4 core / 8 GB ram requirement. Not sure if there is leeway if running Nginx/php-fpm verses say Apache. The server's IP cannot change for the duration of the (active/not matured) MN.
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July 25, 2018, 10:32:16 PM
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Some information about the upcoming Arionum updates:
- There will be a hard fork at block 80.000 which will update the mining system and will implement the alias system.
- The development has been finished on both mining and the alias system. Currently they are undergoing tests.
- The mining system will be changed to a hybrid mining system in which 1 block is given to CPU miners, 1 to GPU and 1 to masternode staking.
- Masternodes will be implemented starting block 80.000
- To create a masternode you will need 100.000 ARO and you will lock those funds as colateral for minimum 3+1 months.
- The masternodes will be winning blocks based on a Proof of Stake system.
- There is no limit on the number of the total masternodes.
- The masternodes will be used for the project governance and for taking decisions regarding the Arionum blockchain. For example, voting for new features etc (implemented at a later stage)
- The masternodes will be used for handling asset transactions (implemented at a later stage)
- It's possible to implement some sort of sidechain for much faster transactions using the masternodes, at a later date.
- We have implemented a bootstrapping feature to have the nodes do the initial sync much faster.


I smell desperation.

Aro is a fine project, but still lacks some of the basic features of a successful coin. There is no linux wallet, the pool landscape is dismal... Why not fix that first?

The pride of the entire project so far was the CPU only mining. It even forked to prevent GPU mining. Now back to GPUs? Why?

Masternodes: statistically the coins with a masternode system do the worst value wise. Most drop over 90% within a short time, as whales start to frequently drop their 'free' coins.

Also, if someone could enlighten me about the 'masternodes will be winning blocks based on a Proof of Stake system'. So there is no limit to the coins you can lock into a MN, more coins improve your chance of winning?

Another way to read this announcement: The rumors about botnet mining are true and ARO desperately needs more (diversified) hashrate. Is that the case?
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July 25, 2018, 10:39:04 PM
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Can we mine this with gpus? If so, i see that there's a miner but only for linux. Will a windows miner be released? thank you.
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July 25, 2018, 11:02:47 PM
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I smell desperation.

Aro is a fine project, but still lacks some of the basic features of a successful coin. There is no linux wallet, the pool landscape is dismal... Why not fix that first?

The pride of the entire project so far was the CPU only mining. It even forked to prevent GPU mining. Now back to GPUs? Why?

Masternodes: statistically the coins with a masternode system do the worst value wise. Most drop over 90% within a short time, as whales start to frequently drop their 'free' coins.

Also, if someone could enlighten me about the 'masternodes will be winning blocks based on a Proof of Stake system'. So there is no limit to the coins you can lock into a MN, more coins improve your chance of winning?

Another way to read this announcement: The rumors about botnet mining are true and ARO desperately needs more (diversified) hashrate. Is that the case?


"I smell desperation" - No, this is to my knowledge a unique way of tackling the problem faced with most CPU coins, massive dumpers with free/extremely cheap cloud services. This idea has been carefully thought out to ensure a fairer mining experience for everyone.

"Aro is a fine project, but still lacks some of the basic features of a successful coin. There is no linux wallet, the pool landscape is dismal... Why not fix that first?" - There is a Linux wallet, just that it is CLI, not a GUI, however a Linux GUI is in production. A flashy pool website gains you what exactly? So it is easier on the eye? Standardisation, that is key.

"Masternodes: statistically the coins with a masternode system do the worst value wise. Most drop over 90% within a short time, as whales start to frequently drop their 'free' coins." - complete and utter FUD. The mining system along with the Masternodes will in fact make it less worthwhile for the dumpers.

"The pride of the entire project so far was the CPU only mining. It even forked to prevent GPU mining. Now back to GPUs? Why? " - It was a decision we didn't take lightly, however due to the new hybrid mining system being introduced, a wider range of accessibility is being produced for those that want to mine ARO. Also, the fork was to bring GPU mining in-line with CPU mining, however, progress and community demand/interest are also key to the development of ARO.

 "Another way to read this announcement: The rumors about botnet mining are true and ARO desperately needs more (diversified) hashrate. Is that the case?" - The rumours about botnets and ARO are exactly that, rumours. There is no "ARO botnet". This whole idea was thought up and relentless hard work being carried out to diversify ARO.

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July 26, 2018, 02:30:56 AM
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A flashy pool website gains you what exactly? So it is easier on the eye? Standardisation, that is key.
Not talking about the website at all, rather the lack of diversified pools. 2 Pools control most of the hashrate, and that isn't healthy.

complete and utter FUD. The mining system along with the Masternodes will in fact make it less worthwhile for the dumpers.
No FUD, just facts. OmniAnalytics sometimes publishes nice data on MN coins. Of course ARO could be the exception, but why?

As a side note: The number of possible MN seems to be quite limited, currently only ~700MN would be possible, real world probably much much lower. Any reason for that?
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July 26, 2018, 04:58:44 AM
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A flashy pool website gains you what exactly? So it is easier on the eye? Standardisation, that is key.
Not talking about the website at all, rather the lack of diversified pools. 2 Pools control most of the hashrate, and that isn't healthy.

complete and utter FUD. The mining system along with the Masternodes will in fact make it less worthwhile for the dumpers.
No FUD, just facts. OmniAnalytics sometimes publishes nice data on MN coins. Of course ARO could be the exception, but why?

As a side note: The number of possible MN seems to be quite limited, currently only ~700MN would be possible, real world probably much much lower. Any reason for that?


The ARO team have plenty more up their sleeves in future development, the change to hybrid mining and the launch of the alias system is something all the community is excited about

As for the numbers of MN, we don not want ARO to sway towards the MN route, the MN route is being opened, alongside GPU mining, in an effort to be fairer in terms of accessibility for the community. It also prevents huge cloud whales from dumping nearly as much as they were able to, in effect this should produce an upturn in the market.

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July 26, 2018, 05:55:44 AM
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A flashy pool website gains you what exactly? So it is easier on the eye? Standardisation, that is key.
Not talking about the website at all, rather the lack of diversified pools. 2 Pools control most of the hashrate, and that isn't healthy.

complete and utter FUD. The mining system along with the Masternodes will in fact make it less worthwhile for the dumpers.
No FUD, just facts. OmniAnalytics sometimes publishes nice data on MN coins. Of course ARO could be the exception, but why?

As a side note: The number of possible MN seems to be quite limited, currently only ~700MN would be possible, real world probably much much lower. Any reason for that?


The ARO team have plenty more up their sleeves in future development, the change to hybrid mining and the launch of the alias system is something all the community is excited about

As for the numbers of MN, we don not want ARO to sway towards the MN route, the MN route is being opened, alongside GPU mining, in an effort to be fairer in terms of accessibility for the community. It also prevents huge cloud whales from dumping nearly as much as they were able to, in effect this should produce an upturn in the market.

Totally agree with u,
The dumps will be less now because there are 3 ways to earn ARO instead of 2.

However, what i see is that the price is rising already..

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July 26, 2018, 10:36:43 AM
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Can we mine this with gpus? If so, i see that there's a miner but only for linux. Will a windows miner be released? thank you.


U can mine with an GPU, but good luck with try to get the same speed with an 1080Ti compared to an i7 cpu..

It's not that an GPU have an big change in compare with the cpu miners. But, it's easier to make an rig with GPU's in compare with an CPU rig Smiley

Depends on what u want, but the most power is while using an CPU (power/electricity/mining speed) Smiley

I tested the GPU miner on ubuntu but it was not nice, i prefer the cpu miner on windows 10


Edit: oops, sorry for double posting

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July 26, 2018, 11:48:36 AM
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Can we mine this with gpus? If so, i see that there's a miner but only for linux. Will a windows miner be released? thank you.


U can mine with an GPU, but good luck with try to get the same speed with an 1080Ti compared to an i7 cpu..

It's not that an GPU have an big change in compare with the cpu miners. But, it's easier to make an rig with GPU's in compare with an CPU rig Smiley

Depends on what u want, but the most power is while using an CPU (power/electricity/mining speed) Smiley

I tested the GPU miner on ubuntu but it was not nice, i prefer the cpu miner on windows 10


Edit: oops, sorry for double posting

The GPU miner will perform like it did pre-fork, so in essence you should get ~1500 h/s with a GTX 1080Ti

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July 26, 2018, 01:00:11 PM
Last edit: July 26, 2018, 01:41:55 PM by OvErLoDe1
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Node setup and implementation service

For those interested, I am offering a paid for service in preparation for Masternode implementation.

My service will completely install the node back-end system, the stats-augment worker tracking dashboard, and a full database dump.

Nodes should be expected to be up and running within 15 minutes, fully synced to the blockchain.

If you would be interested in the service for a very small fee, please directly message me on Discord @ OvErLoDe

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Can we mine this with gpus? If so, i see that there's a miner but only for linux. Will a windows miner be released? thank you.


U can mine with an GPU, but good luck with try to get the same speed with an 1080Ti compared to an i7 cpu..

It's not that an GPU have an big change in compare with the cpu miners. But, it's easier to make an rig with GPU's in compare with an CPU rig Smiley

Depends on what u want, but the most power is while using an CPU (power/electricity/mining speed) Smiley

I tested the GPU miner on ubuntu but it was not nice, i prefer the cpu miner on windows 10


Edit: oops, sorry for double posting

The GPU miner will perform like it did pre-fork, so in essence you should get ~1500 h/s with a GTX 1080Ti

oh wow, the last stats i remember was like 20H/s with an 1080TI?

However, i wont run ubuntu again on my system. So i will wait for an windows gpu miner, till that time i'm fine with the cuby miner and the ariocppminer Smiley

Edit: ah you mean that the speeds will be possible after the fork.. I tought people are getting this speeds already ^^

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oh wow, the last stats i remember was like 20H/s with an 1080TI?

However, i wont run ubuntu again on my system. So i will wait for an windows gpu miner, till that time i'm fine with the cuby miner and the ariocppminer Smiley


There is already a Windows GPU miner Smiley

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July 28, 2018, 12:49:42 PM
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There is already a Windows GPU miner Smiley
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