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September 15, 2013, 01:11:15 AM
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I'll give Inaba a tip..................

Don't talk with your mouth full.

Here's another....................

Don't walk through mud puddles!

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September 15, 2013, 01:19:01 AM
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Here is some free advice Josh,

Instead of coding chip vouchers, classified sections to transfer orders here is something you can work on for something I like to call increased (or in your case an attempt to salvage..) customer satisfaction.

Create a mining pool for BFL customers who are still waiting for their hardware,
load it with wallet addresses that we each put into our user profile.

Put everyone in the pool.

Burn in all the BFL gear to that pool, so we can split the earnings,
and while you are at it, throw 10 Mini-Rigs into the pool as a show of good faith.

When you ship our orders leave us in the pool until you have really cleared the backlog.


What would that cost you? Bigger question what would that gain you?

These are the things us real world C Suite people do.


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September 15, 2013, 01:20:54 AM
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Here is some free advice Josh,

Instead of coding chip vouchers, classified sections to transfer orders here is something you can work on for something I like to call increased (or in your case an attempt to salvage..) customer satisfaction.

Create a mining pool for BFL customers who are still waiting for their hardware,
load it with wallet addresses that we each put into our user profile.

Put everyone in the pool.

Burn in all the BFL gear to that pool, so we can split the earnings,
and while you are at it, throw 10 Mini-Rigs into the pool as a show of good faith.

When you ship our orders leave us in the pool until you have really cleared the backlog.


What would that cost you? Bigger question what would that gain you?

These are the things us real world C Suite people do.



Actually sounds like a novel idea...
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September 15, 2013, 01:21:58 AM
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All BFL products delivered after today will never reach break even.

Josh will say, Well BTC will be up to $225 by then and you will have made money!
Or maybe not.

Syke says no BFL products delivered after today will reach break even.  I think that's going to be the problem with any hardware.  It was ordained when a proof of work which lent itself to massively parallel processing was written into the specs of bitcoin:  it produces a situation with no equilibrium.  

The only way an equilibrium could be established is if there were to evolve a handful of colluding or clearly cross-signaling entities dominating the network, each with large network shares, who would respect each others' network shares and drive any non-cartel shares to below net-revenue zero.

Otherwise, the only way to increase revenue is to bring more hash power on line, and the dog begins to chase its tail, circling faster and faster.  That way, too, small miners become collateral damage at an increasing rate.

And somehow it is BFL's fault... at least according to people like Joe.



Josh nothing is your fault.

Failure of the initial design - Not Your Fault
Failure to ship in Feb. - Not Your Fault
Failure to ship in March, April - Not Your Fault
Chip supply chain problems - Not Your Fault
Power supply supply chain problems - Not Your Fault
Mini-Rig Design problems - Not Your Fault
Customer Service problems - Not Your Fault
Compliance with FTC law regarding refunds - Not Your Fault
Your investors crucifying you any way possible - Not Your Fault


MAYBE, MAYBE 15% of your investors are making a real fuss, your inability to shut them up - Not Your Fault

Send me a PM if you'd like some tips.

Money must be INCREDIBLY tight for you to not be able to afford to make your customers happy.

There are NO problems the slow down is by design !!!

Dont play his game ...its a ruse to pretend to be this incompetent...... They are scamming all of their pre-order customers ..

The pre-order lock funds away so they cant be turned into hash that competes with the DIRECTORS mining operations

String them along & tell/give them anything but just keep them OFF main net

CHips credits,Upgrade paths ,tradeable pre-orders, free steak knifes but DONT allow them to get onto main net !

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September 15, 2013, 01:24:41 AM
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So that is why some of the BFL emails are routed through Eclipse. Interesting.
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September 15, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
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Here is some free advice Josh,

Instead of coding chip vouchers, classified sections to transfer orders here is something you can work on for something I like to call increased (or in your case an attempt to salvage..) customer satisfaction.

Create a mining pool for BFL customers who are still waiting for their hardware,
load it with wallet addresses that we each put into our user profile.

Put everyone in the pool.

Burn in all the BFL gear to that pool, so we can split the earnings,
and while you are at it, throw 10 Mini-Rigs into the pool as a show of good faith.

When you ship our orders leave us in the pool until you have really cleared the backlog.


What would that cost you? Bigger question what would that gain you?

These are the things us real world C Suite people do.



Actually sounds like a novel idea...

Thanks, I get that a lot.
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September 15, 2013, 01:27:49 AM
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Free yourself of BFL. Get a refund.

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September 15, 2013, 01:34:05 AM
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Free yourself of BFL. Get a refund.

Now that everyone of their products are negative ROI they will ship it when PayPal or CC contact them ..

They dont want their own pieces of shit hardware anymore either ... they are waiting on their GEN 2 units to bolster the DIRECTORS personal mining operations

BFL has been this from the start a personal mining operation aka ASICMINER but using everbody elses money to do it with the added bonus of getting three  bites at the cherry by diversing from the debt @ the point of it being negative ROI i.e its more profitable to give them the product NOW & also tieing up the funds so that they dont use it to hash against them...TRIPLE WORD SCORE !!

The delay, the pretence of incompetence ...this is the scam !!!

You have to admit Josh does a great impersonation of somebody with NO FUCKING clue !


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September 15, 2013, 01:35:38 AM
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Free yourself of BFL. Get a refund.
By the way, Sir, I share your respect for Maria Montessori and her philosophies.  

I thought it was despicable that some attacked your adherence to that process of education with outright accusations of pedophilia.  

But, then, as your signature says...
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September 15, 2013, 01:40:28 AM
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Here is some free advice Josh,

Instead of coding chip vouchers, classified sections to transfer orders here is something you can work on for something I like to call increased (or in your case an attempt to salvage..) customer satisfaction.

Create a mining pool for BFL customers who are still waiting for their hardware,
load it with wallet addresses that we each put into our user profile.

Put everyone in the pool.

Burn in all the BFL gear to that pool, so we can split the earnings,
and while you are at it, throw 10 Mini-Rigs into the pool as a show of good faith.

When you ship our orders leave us in the pool until you have really cleared the backlog.


What would that cost you? Bigger question what would that gain you?

These are the things us real world C Suite people do.




Hmmmm Josh???
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Now that everyone of their products are negative ROI they will ship it when PayPal or CC contact them ..

They dont want their own pieces of shit hardware anymore either ... they are waiting on their GEN 2 units to bolster the DIRECTORS personal mining operations

BFL has been this from the start a personal mining operation aka ASICMINER but using everbody elses money to do it with the added bonus of getting three  bites at the cherry by diversing from the debt @ the point of it being negative ROI i.e its more profitable to give them the product NOW & also tieing up the funds so that they dont use it to hash against them...TRIPLE WORD SCORE !!

The delay, the pretence of incompetence ...this is the scam !!!

You have to admit Josh does a great impersonation of somebody with NO FUCKING clue !


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You have to admit Josh does a great impersonation of somebody with NO FUCKING clue !


That is why every time he says a delivery date, I just think
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Free yourself of BFL. Get a refund.
By the way, Sir, I share your respect for Maria Montessori and her philosophies.  

I thought it was despicable that some attacked your adherence to that process of education with outright accusations of pedophilia.  

But, then, as your signature says...

It was a butch move from a shady company. What more can you expect?

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Side note have had talks with a few people on the idea like the cure coin potentially using old ASICs for folding at home to cure cancer etc... there is also the potential to use the hash power to find childporn online for law enforcement. Old mining hardware could help reduce the risk to children being exploited. So BFL dead and dying units might actually have a real purpose to help law enforcement take down these child pornographer rings.

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September 15, 2013, 02:22:13 AM
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To Inaba:

"Satan, Your Kingdom Must Come Down.............."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psqhLJUFM_Q

My $.02.

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September 15, 2013, 03:15:36 AM
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Here is some free advice Josh,

Instead of coding chip vouchers, classified sections to transfer orders here is something you can work on for something I like to call increased (or in your case an attempt to salvage..) customer satisfaction.

Create a mining pool for BFL customers who are still waiting for their hardware,
load it with wallet addresses that we each put into our user profile.

Put everyone in the pool.

Burn in all the BFL gear to that pool, so we can split the earnings,
and while you are at it, throw 10 Mini-Rigs into the pool as a show of good faith.

When you ship our orders leave us in the pool until you have really cleared the backlog.


What would that cost you? Bigger question what would that gain you?

These are the things us real world C Suite people do.




Hmmmm Josh???



I should have put the crickets in the original posts to save time.
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September 15, 2013, 03:38:12 AM
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Do we have a betting pool running anywhere?

Who the hell would bet in favor of BFL?

PG.

PG went to the promised land, he won't be betting on BFL to finish on time either.

If the finish line is the end of September, then no. If the finish line is before the first Monarch is to be shipped, then maybe, with only a small handful yet to be assembled by the end of the year if this is the case.

Quick aside: Does anybody know how to Kool Aid stains out of a beard?
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September 15, 2013, 03:40:28 AM
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Here is some free advice Josh,

Instead of coding chip vouchers, classified sections to transfer orders here is something you can work on for something I like to call increased (or in your case an attempt to salvage..) customer satisfaction.

Create a mining pool for BFL customers who are still waiting for their hardware,
load it with wallet addresses that we each put into our user profile.

Put everyone in the pool.

Burn in all the BFL gear to that pool, so we can split the earnings,
and while you are at it, throw 10 Mini-Rigs into the pool as a show of good faith.

When you ship our orders leave us in the pool until you have really cleared the backlog.


What would that cost you? Bigger question what would that gain you?

These are the things us real world C Suite people do.




Hmmmm Josh???



I should have put the crickets in the original posts to save time.

You notice as usual, he only addressed the profitability of a jalapeno till 900 million, and not the shipping out of turn to prevent chargebacks. He comments on the small errors/ inconsequential inaccuracies which is just semantics with respect to the big picture and disappears in his troll cave with respect to the big stuff.

What is absolutely hilarious is that the Monarch is DOA, as they will not ship this year and their rivals will for a lot cheaper. BFL's days are really numbered from a business perspective, as it makes no financial sense to order from them with so much competition.

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You notice as usual, he only addressed the profitability of a jalapeno till 900 million, and not the shipping out of turn to prevent chargebacks. He comments on the small errors/ inconsequential inaccuracies which is just semantics with respect to the big picture and disappears in his troll cave with respect to the big stuff.

What is absolutely hilarious is that the Monarch is DOA, as they will not ship this year and their rivals will for a lot cheaper. BFL's days are really numbered from a business perspective, as it makes no financial sense to order from them with so much competition.

That's SOP for Josh
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September 15, 2013, 03:45:01 AM
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Quick aside: Does anybody know how to Kool Aid stains out of a beard?

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September 15, 2013, 03:59:46 AM
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One of BFL's data centers is located at 1325 Tracy, Kansas City, Missouri.

An old glass company with huge overhead doors.

"J.Morgan" hosting.

Just so you know.

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September 15, 2013, 04:37:29 AM
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Quick aside: Does anybody know how to Kool Aid stains out of a beard?
Go on a dyeit.

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