[FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September

[joeventura]

With 5 days left looks like all predictions still good, no surge of orders shipped.

Same slow pace.

Jalapenos:  2/28/2013  (Looks like they outsourced to some real sloooow starters)  (miss by 61 days)

Little Singles: 12/6/2012  (Must have ran out of parts..........again)  (miss by 145 days)

Singles: 2/21/2013  (I was close on this one) (miss by 68 days)

MiniRig: 7/18/2012  (Also close on this one)  (miss by 286 days)

Timer removed. End time: 2013-10-01+05:00:59UTC

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[joeventura]

Dance little monkeys, dance!

Has anyone ever told you you should probably just shut up and delete your account?

Networth to humanity -1000

Heyhey,

just to clarify: Is Inaba (the Dance Monkey Guy) really someone from BFL? Or just some Troll?

I love how Josh tries to be all superior and in a few days he has a new name "The Dance Monkey Guy"

Things just work out sometimes!!

HEHEHE

[LostDutchman]

Dance little monkeys, dance!

Has anyone ever told you you should probably just shut up and delete your account?

Networth to humanity -1000

Heyhey,

just to clarify: Is Inaba (the Dance Monkey Guy) really someone from BFL? Or just some Troll?

I love how Josh tries to be all superior and in a few days he has a new name "The Dance Monkey Guy"

Things just work out sometimes!!

HEHEHE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaB7BQ6PlHs

[ionstorm]

any idea if I can force BFL into refunding my Bitcoin purchased orders?  Bitcoin is money, and they should also be refunding the Bitcoin amount in my opinion.  Anyone got any good advice on how to proceed?  I want this company out of my life.  If I have to I'll sue them, but any other tips would be appreciated.

[Nemesis]

any idea if I can force BFL into refunding my Bitcoin purchased orders?  Bitcoin is money, and they should also be refunding the Bitcoin amount in my opinion.  Anyone got any good advice on how to proceed?  I want this company out of my life.  If I have to I'll sue them, but any other tips would be appreciated.

No way Jose,

If you buy stuff priced in EU on Amazon EU, you can pay USD equivalent after exchanged but you will never have a refund of the same USD amount. Your refund will be USD equivalent of the exact EU price after the current exchange rate.

Got that?

[Flying Hellfish]

any idea if I can force BFL into refunding my Bitcoin purchased orders?  Bitcoin is money, and they should also be refunding the Bitcoin amount in my opinion.  Anyone got any good advice on how to proceed?  I want this company out of my life.  If I have to I'll sue them, but any other tips would be appreciated.

No way Jose,

If you buy stuff priced in EU on Amazon EU, you can pay USD equivalent after exchanged but you will never have a refund of the same USD amount. Your refund will be USD equivalent of the exact EU price after the current exchange rate.

Got that?

It appears as though PayPal has a different policy and that they use conversion rate at time of purchase, so there is precedent for this type of refund.

Paypal currency conversion policy:
https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/main.jsp;jsessionid=rV0JKsnTq3Z197277Pg2sQ4mJ1HJWQ5xpxnJnzGxvW9J1FhW03yL!-1588418?t=solutionTab&ft=homeTab&ps&solutionId=163394&locale=en_GB&_dyncharset=UTF-8&countrycode=GB&cmd=_help&serverInstance=9012
Refunds are performed using the exchange rate which was current at the time of the original payment.

Got that?

[k9quaint]

any idea if I can force BFL into refunding my Bitcoin purchased orders?  Bitcoin is money, and they should also be refunding the Bitcoin amount in my opinion.  Anyone got any good advice on how to proceed?  I want this company out of my life.  If I have to I'll sue them, but any other tips would be appreciated.

No way Jose,

If you buy stuff priced in EU on Amazon EU, you can pay USD equivalent after exchanged but you will never have a refund of the same USD amount. Your refund will be USD equivalent of the exact EU price after the current exchange rate.

Got that?

It appears as though PayPal has a different policy and that they use conversion rate at time of purchase, so there is precedent for this type of refund.

Paypal currency conversion policy:
https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/main.jsp;jsessionid=rV0JKsnTq3Z197277Pg2sQ4mJ1HJWQ5xpxnJnzGxvW9J1FhW03yL!-1588418?t=solutionTab&ft=homeTab&ps&solutionId=163394&locale=en_GB&_dyncharset=UTF-8&countrycode=GB&cmd=_help&serverInstance=9012
Refunds are performed using the exchange rate which was current at the time of the original payment.

Got that?

Amazon separates the exchange from the transaction. So if you want to buy something in EUR, first Amazon will change your USD into EUR and then you have EUR. Thus, if you get a refund, you will be refunded in EUR. If the seller was in Europe but accepted USD on Amazon, they could not refund you Euros just because they changed all their dollars into Euros. They would have to refund you in USD.

Ebay/Paypal bundles the exchange with the transaction. So if the transaction is reversed, the customer gets back exactly the USD they spent and the seller bears the exchange rate risk. That is one of the reasons why Ebay will not let you list items that cannot be delivered within 30 days.

[fumble]

Dance little monkeys, dance!

I found that racist, offensive and unprofessional.  This is what BFL stands for?

An image of a monkey is "racist"?

WOO HOO!

Image? No.  Calling someone a monkey and demanding they dance if they are from Africa?  Yes.
My wife is African.

[LostDutchman]

Dance little monkeys, dance!

I found that racist, offensive and unprofessional.  This is what BFL stands for?

An image of a monkey is "racist"?

WOO HOO!

Image? No.  Calling someone a monkey and demanding they dance if they are from Africa?  Yes.
My wife is African.

I guess I missed that part, so don't think I'm defending racism; I just think that the term is so often misapplied and is so over-used as to have nearly lost any real meaning.

I dunno.

To give you an idea of the foundation of my thinking on this matter, my friend Yolande, who is a seriously Caucasian woman from South Africa, now a naturalised USA citizen delights in describing herself on forms and applications as an "African American".

She certainly has more claim to the term than most and it drives the bureaucrats crazy.

I dunno.

My $.02.

[BKM]

any idea if I can force BFL into refunding my Bitcoin purchased orders?  Bitcoin is money, and they should also be refunding the Bitcoin amount in my opinion.  Anyone got any good advice on how to proceed?  I want this company out of my life.  If I have to I'll sue them, but any other tips would be appreciated.

The only possible means by which you could do so would be as a result of a successful legal action. And, the refund would be in US legal tender. You would not experience a XBT USD exchange rate benefit as a result

[androsyn]

any idea if I can force BFL into refunding my Bitcoin purchased orders?  Bitcoin is money, and they should also be refunding the Bitcoin amount in my opinion.  Anyone got any good advice on how to proceed?  I want this company out of my life.  If I have to I'll sue them, but any other tips would be appreciated.

The only possible means by which you could do so would be as a result of a successful legal action. And, the refund would be in US legal tender. You would not experience a XBT USD exchange rate benefit as a result

You will want to contact the Johnson County District Attorney in Johnson County Kansas. They are handling the case
Lot of complaints. Please fill the form on da.jocogov.org
Better than nothing, they've been investigating BFL bad policy since the beginning.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

This thread could be interesting:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5067-minirig-sc.html

Very interesting!

Several of my friends and I invested in a MiniRig SC (1500Gh version) and some smaller boxes back in Feburary this year. (2013)

Since then, the main investor has found out he has terminal cancer. His blog is here mcrc4.com | Metastatic Colorectal Cancer Stage 4

http://www.mcrc4.com/?p=38

Introduction

Posted on January 1, 2013 by Ren

I have been diagnosed with stage 4, metastatic colorectal cancer in October 2012, 3 days after my 44th birthday. There is no cure, but I am determined to go down the road less travelled to find one. I have setup this blog to document my journey and hopefully help others in the process.

Oliver Goldsmith is in Australia, while Ren resides in Austria.

[EvilLizardApparel]

Anyone have the content of the April 2013 new terms? The one with "2 months or more" delivery estimate in it. I need it word for word for the AG and FTC.

Thanks

[Threader]

You can search past BFL web pages here

http://archive.org/web/web.php

[chanson]

Anyone have the content of the April 2013 new terms? The one with "2 months or more" delivery estimate in it. I need it word for word for the AG and FTC.

Thanks

You're going to need the terms of the consent clicker box that you had to click to avoid automatic refund when BFL announced the final product design modifications. That happened after April, but I can't remember the date.

[YipYip]

This thread could be interesting:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5067-minirig-sc.html

Very interesting!

Several of my friends and I invested in a MiniRig SC (1500Gh version) and some smaller boxes back in Feburary this year. (2013)

Since then, the main investor has found out he has terminal cancer. His blog is here mcrc4.com | Metastatic Colorectal Cancer Stage 4

http://www.mcrc4.com/?p=38

Introduction

Posted on January 1, 2013 by Ren

I have been diagnosed with stage 4, metastatic colorectal cancer in October 2012, 3 days after my 44th birthday. There is no cure, but I am determined to go down the road less travelled to find one. I have setup this blog to document my journey and hopefully help others in the process.

Oliver Goldsmith is in Australia, while Ren resides in Austria.

PG ...thanks for giving clarity on this ...I suppose given the current state of BFL

pplz are driven to anything to try and get them to deliver ......

I think all thats left is "kids with Cancer " or he needs a new liver that can only be bought with sweet sweet BTC ..lolz  

[Threader]

Don't try to con cons

[Phinnaeus Gage]

This thread could be interesting:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5067-minirig-sc.html

Very interesting!

Several of my friends and I invested in a MiniRig SC (1500Gh version) and some smaller boxes back in Feburary this year. (2013)

Since then, the main investor has found out he has terminal cancer. His blog is here mcrc4.com | Metastatic Colorectal Cancer Stage 4

http://www.mcrc4.com/?p=38

Introduction

Posted on January 1, 2013 by Ren

I have been diagnosed with stage 4, metastatic colorectal cancer in October 2012, 3 days after my 44th birthday. There is no cure, but I am determined to go down the road less travelled to find one. I have setup this blog to document my journey and hopefully help others in the process.

Oliver Goldsmith is in Australia, while Ren resides in Austria.

PG ...thanks for giving clarity on this ...I suppose given the current state of BFL

pplz are driven to anything to try and get them to deliver ......

I think all thats left is "kids with Cancer " or he needs a new liver that can only be bought with sweet sweet BTC ..lolz  

No problem, bud. Actually, I was just seeing if Xian still has be on ignore.

[YipYip]

This thread could be interesting:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5067-minirig-sc.html

Very interesting!

Several of my friends and I invested in a MiniRig SC (1500Gh version) and some smaller boxes back in Feburary this year. (2013)

Since then, the main investor has found out he has terminal cancer. His blog is here mcrc4.com | Metastatic Colorectal Cancer Stage 4

http://www.mcrc4.com/?p=38

Introduction

Posted on January 1, 2013 by Ren

I have been diagnosed with stage 4, metastatic colorectal cancer in October 2012, 3 days after my 44th birthday. There is no cure, but I am determined to go down the road less travelled to find one. I have setup this blog to document my journey and hopefully help others in the process.

Oliver Goldsmith is in Australia, while Ren resides in Austria.

PG ...thanks for giving clarity on this ...I suppose given the current state of BFL

pplz are driven to anything to try and get them to deliver ......

I think all thats left is "kids with Cancer " or he needs a new liver that can only be bought with sweet sweet BTC ..lolz  

No problem, bud. Actually, I was just seeing if Xian still has be on ignore.

....lolz

My wife says I am a bit insensitive with my comments at times

So in this vain ..l think it will be safe to say that the REAL cancer victim will be DEAD b4 Oliver Goldsmith gets his MiniRig

Its the  BFL vs Cancer OFF 2013 ..who will win CANCER OR BFL and Oliver Goldsmith 

 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

This thread could be interesting:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/5067-minirig-sc.html

Very interesting!

Several of my friends and I invested in a MiniRig SC (1500Gh version) and some smaller boxes back in Feburary this year. (2013)

Since then, the main investor has found out he has terminal cancer. His blog is here mcrc4.com | Metastatic Colorectal Cancer Stage 4

http://www.mcrc4.com/?p=38

Introduction

Posted on January 1, 2013 by Ren

I have been diagnosed with stage 4, metastatic colorectal cancer in October 2012, 3 days after my 44th birthday. There is no cure, but I am determined to go down the road less travelled to find one. I have setup this blog to document my journey and hopefully help others in the process.

Oliver Goldsmith is in Australia, while Ren resides in Austria.

PG ...thanks for giving clarity on this ...I suppose given the current state of BFL

pplz are driven to anything to try and get them to deliver ......

I think all thats left is "kids with Cancer " or he needs a new liver that can only be bought with sweet sweet BTC ..lolz  

No problem, bud. Actually, I was just seeing if Xian still has be on ignore.

....lolz

My wife says I am a bit insensitive with my comments at times

So in this vain ..l think it will be safe to say that the REAL cancer victim will be DEAD b4 Oliver Goldsmith gets his MiniRig

Its the  BFL vs Cancer OFF 2013 ..who will win CANCER OR BFL and Oliver Goldsmith 

 

With tears in my eyes, I quote thou.