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is that the pool for bitmine testing ?
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February 18, 2014, 09:57:51 PM |
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Keep dreaming...
Nothing's gonna happen before they have to...
Already said so...
ZZZZzzzzz......
Dont even know why this tread is still her...
Not like they are updating any way.... probably be a lesser pain just to sit around waiting for an e-mail their will never come, then the disappointment it is to come her, 4-6 times a day and stile find no update on any thing at all...
Face palm to us all ..... !Ding!
bitmine.ch is quickly becoming the new BFL. (Butterfly labs.... 1 year late... and still is..)
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February 18, 2014, 10:00:06 PM |
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... How can Bitmine sell products (and take money for this items), even if the product do not exist? Is there some information on the website, that this product does not exist ? I can find nice description about the energy consumption, the turbo mode, the front display and other useless information. But nothing about the fact, that this product does not exist.
Terms of sale: 2.1 All goods are manufactured on contract and are not readily available for delivery unless otherwise noted.
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February 18, 2014, 10:06:05 PM |
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... How can Bitmine sell products (and take money for this items), even if the product do not exist? Is there some information on the website, that this product does not exist ? I can find nice description about the energy consumption, the turbo mode, the front display and other useless information. But nothing about the fact, that this product does not exist.
Terms of sale: 2.1 All goods are manufactured on contract and are not readily available for delivery unless otherwise noted. You are right: manufactured on contract, but not developed on contract
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February 18, 2014, 10:07:42 PM |
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Dont even know why this tread is still here...
As a warning to other potential costumers who might fall for bitmine.ch. Don't forget bitmine still takes new orders for march week 4 devices. They will continue to do so. So if this thread wouldn't exist, some people would actually think they might get a device in 6 weeks if they order now. And that is such a farce! How come the shipping time is now SHORTER then when I made the order end of november??? I ordered end of november for a february week 1 device. That's about 10 weeks. Now if someone places a new order they tell him that he has only 6 weeks to wait??? WTF??? Nothing makes sense anymore. Do they not care anymore to update the date? They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
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February 18, 2014, 10:15:57 PM |
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Dont even know why this tread is still here...
As a warning to other potential costumers who might fall for bitmine.ch. Don't forget bitmine still takes new orders for march week 4 devices. They will continue to do so. So if this thread wouldn't exist, some people would actually think they might get a device in 6 weeks if they order now. And that is such a farce! How come the shipping time is now SHORTER then when I made the order end of november??? I ordered end of november for a february week 1 device. That's about 10 weeks. Now if someone places a new order they tell him that he has only 6 weeks to wait??? WTF??? Nothing makes sense anymore. Do they not care anymore to update the date? They let the new guys walk right into a trap... IMHO the "March 4th" week batch has been going on so long because of the drastic drop in BTC price. So that they still think that they can supply orders for that date range. Due to order numbers being so low.
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February 18, 2014, 10:18:03 PM |
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I here write for a long time that it is necessary to all to inform that BITMINE SCAM. While they will give old orders with the BONUS of 1000 %!
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February 18, 2014, 10:19:45 PM |
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They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
Thats my personal main reason, why i think it may be a good idea to introduce bitmine to the authorities. Well, my case is opened now. lets see, what it brings to daylight. What i personally dont understand, why did bitmine the sharevalue increase of 500k to 1000k. but as you say, nothing makes sense anymore. perhaps zefir wants to say anything..
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February 18, 2014, 10:20:28 PM |
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IMHO the "March 4th" week batch has been going on so long because of the drastic drop in BTC price. So that they still think that they can supply orders for that date range. Due to order numbers being so low.
Makes sense. And I conclude they had the most orders in november/december by customers who payed with bitcoins. I believe bitmine has recieved more orders than they have ever dreamed of. And more money to fund everything. So why they can't produce although everything a manufacturer dreams of has come true, I don't understand...
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February 18, 2014, 10:21:52 PM |
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They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
Thats my personal main reason, why i think it may be a good idea to introduce bitmine to the authorities. Well, my case is opened now. lets see, what it brings to daylight. What i personally dont understand, why did bitmine the sharevalue increase of 500k to 1000k. but as you say, nothing makes sense anymore. perhaps zefir wants to say anything.. Guys where was you at BFL in 2012 or Avalon in 2013. Or HF and CT very recently. You did read the small print?
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February 18, 2014, 10:34:16 PM |
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They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
Thats my personal main reason, why i think it may be a good idea to introduce bitmine to the authorities. Well, my case is opened now. lets see, what it brings to daylight. What i personally dont understand, why did bitmine the sharevalue increase of 500k to 1000k. but as you say, nothing makes sense anymore. perhaps zefir wants to say anything.. Guys where was you at BFL in 2012 or Avalon in 2013. Or HF and CT very recently. You did read the small print?Currently I prefer reading swiss law
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February 18, 2014, 10:42:05 PM |
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They let the new guys walk right into a trap...
Thats my personal main reason, why i think it may be a good idea to introduce bitmine to the authorities. Well, my case is opened now. lets see, what it brings to daylight. What i personally dont understand, why did bitmine the sharevalue increase of 500k to 1000k. but as you say, nothing makes sense anymore. perhaps zefir wants to say anything.. Guys where was you at BFL in 2012 or Avalon in 2013. Or HF and CT very recently. You did read the small print?Currently I prefer reading swiss law Well, they have been working chips. So if it is all just a scam we can claim not just off the capital of their working chips design but also working physical chips too. Quids in IMO a lot better than BFL after nine months late or HF after three months late pre-orders.
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February 18, 2014, 10:51:13 PM |
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can zefir update this forum, please ? i think you are a part of bitmine...
when did the first desk left the bitmine "factory", an how much a day ?
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February 18, 2014, 11:28:24 PM |
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can zefir update this forum, please ? i think you are a part of bitmine...
when did the first desk left the bitmine "factory", an how much a day ?
I don't want to be anybody's PR or lawyer, or anything, but please guys...keep it calm, people are working on serious stuff and everything will be allright. Turbo might not be working as planned, but rigs as curently operating on *.st pool seems working ok. Why is bitmine not a SCAM ? Here is why : 1. It is by capital-investment in the top10 rig vendors. Keep this in mind, and let people finish this delivery as they can. 2. Here are some documents I cite : Handelsregister - Registre du commerce - Registro di commercio Mutationen - Mutations - Mutazioni Bitmine AG, in Camorino, CHE-205.677.760, società anonima (FUSC no. 124 del 01.07.2013, Pubbl. 949843). Statuti modificati: 06.02.2014. Nuovo capitale azionario: CHF 1'000'000.00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuovo capitale azionario liberato: CHF 1'000'000. 00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuove azioni: 10'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 100.00. [finora: 1'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 500. 00]. Aumento ordinario. Nuove persone iscritte o modifiche: Kurtisi, Zefir, cittadino germanico, in Bubikon, membro, senza diritto di firma. Registro giornaliero no 1877 del 10.02.2014 / CHE-205.677.760 / 01344987 That means, that...this document is not older then 9 days and that BITMINE.CH has just doubled it's share capital, which is good news. So curently the company's capital is 1 mio CHF. They however didn't have time to make any news nor information about this on their web since they probably do their best to finish rigs and clear the delivery queue. Find me another rig vendor in the world with that much money backing...and I'll shut up. For all people here who are angry at Giorgio and his team : Yes, they have (had) lousy support and made promises, they coudn't keep, but so were the others and this is their mistake, but I hope everything will be allright at the end. Who would double share capital if they are facing serious charges and possible bankrupcy ? So I rather think, company is finally ready for bigtime operation, and all this in the past was just startup mistakes... Comments, anyone ?
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February 18, 2014, 11:38:36 PM |
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can zefir update this forum, please ? i think you are a part of bitmine...
when did the first desk left the bitmine "factory", an how much a day ?
I don't want to be anybody's PR or lawyer, or anything, but please guys...keep it calm, people are working on serious stuff and everything will be allright. Turbo might not be working as planned, but rigs as curently operating on *.st pool seems working ok. Why is bitmine not a SCAM ? Here is why : 1. It is by capital-investment in the top10 rig vendors. Keep this in mind, and let people finish this delivery as they can. 2. Here are some documents I cite : Handelsregister - Registre du commerce - Registro di commercio Mutationen - Mutations - Mutazioni Bitmine AG, in Camorino, CHE-205.677.760, società anonima (FUSC no. 124 del 01.07.2013, Pubbl. 949843). Statuti modificati: 06.02.2014. Nuovo capitale azionario: CHF 1'000'000.00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuovo capitale azionario liberato: CHF 1'000'000. 00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuove azioni: 10'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 100.00. [finora: 1'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 500. 00]. Aumento ordinario. Nuove persone iscritte o modifiche: Kurtisi, Zefir, cittadino germanico, in Bubikon, membro, senza diritto di firma. Registro giornaliero no 1877 del 10.02.2014 / CHE-205.677.760 / 01344987 That means, that...this document is not older then 9 days and that BITMINE.CH has just doubled it's share capital, which is good news. So curently the company's capital is 1 mio CHF. They however didn't have time to make any news nor information about this on their web since they probably do their best to finish rigs and clear the delivery queue. Find me another rig vendor in the world with that much money backing...and I'll shut up. when a company is increasing it s own shares fund that could mean two thing: -the company is making money(not necessary bad news but can be bad news) -the company have done it for tax purposes (as usually there is no income tax on the amount u add on the company s fund) i m not sure if this is the case in switzerland ...
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February 18, 2014, 11:45:42 PM |
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So I rather think, company is finally ready for bigtime operation...
So what clued you in to this breakthrough, the fact that they are two months late and no units were confirmed as being shipped (AFAIK) or the fact that they still don't have a working rig unit? These guys are total amateurs and I will in the future stay as far away from them as I can.
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February 18, 2014, 11:53:15 PM |
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can zefir update this forum, please ? i think you are a part of bitmine...
when did the first desk left the bitmine "factory", an how much a day ?
I don't want to be anybody's PR or lawyer, or anything, but please guys...keep it calm, people are working on serious stuff and everything will be allright. Turbo might not be working as planned, but rigs as curently operating on *.st pool seems working ok. Why is bitmine not a SCAM ? Here is why : 1. It is by capital-investment in the top10 rig vendors. Keep this in mind, and let people finish this delivery as they can. 2. Here are some documents I cite : Handelsregister - Registre du commerce - Registro di commercio Mutationen - Mutations - Mutazioni Bitmine AG, in Camorino, CHE-205.677.760, società anonima (FUSC no. 124 del 01.07.2013, Pubbl. 949843). Statuti modificati: 06.02.2014. Nuovo capitale azionario: CHF 1'000'000.00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuovo capitale azionario liberato: CHF 1'000'000. 00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuove azioni: 10'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 100.00. [finora: 1'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 500. 00]. Aumento ordinario. Nuove persone iscritte o modifiche: Kurtisi, Zefir, cittadino germanico, in Bubikon, membro, senza diritto di firma. Registro giornaliero no 1877 del 10.02.2014 / CHE-205.677.760 / 01344987 That means, that...this document is not older then 9 days and that BITMINE.CH has just doubled it's share capital, which is good news. So curently the company's capital is 1 mio CHF. They however didn't have time to make any news nor information about this on their web since they probably do their best to finish rigs and clear the delivery queue. Find me another rig vendor in the world with that much money backing...and I'll shut up. For all people here who are angry at Giorgio and his team : Yes, they have (had) lousy support and made promises, they coudn't keep, but so were the others and this is their mistake, but I hope everything will be allright at the end. Who would double share capital if they are facing serious charges and possible bankrupcy ? So I rather think, company is finally ready for bigtime operation, and all this in the past was just startup mistakes... Comments, anyone ? BFL isn't a scam either but due to its behavior that doesn't mean it shouldn't be treated as such. @silver71: If you've given bitmine money, have a look at this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
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February 19, 2014, 12:09:18 AM |
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can zefir update this forum, please ? i think you are a part of bitmine...
when did the first desk left the bitmine "factory", an how much a day ?
I don't want to be anybody's PR or lawyer, or anything, but please guys...keep it calm, people are working on serious stuff and everything will be allright. Turbo might not be working as planned, but rigs as curently operating on *.st pool seems working ok. Why is bitmine not a SCAM ? Here is why : 1. It is by capital-investment in the top10 rig vendors. Keep this in mind, and let people finish this delivery as they can. 2. Here are some documents I cite : Handelsregister - Registre du commerce - Registro di commercio Mutationen - Mutations - Mutazioni Bitmine AG, in Camorino, CHE-205.677.760, società anonima (FUSC no. 124 del 01.07.2013, Pubbl. 949843). Statuti modificati: 06.02.2014. Nuovo capitale azionario: CHF 1'000'000.00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuovo capitale azionario liberato: CHF 1'000'000. 00 [finora: CHF 500'000.00]. Nuove azioni: 10'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 100.00. [finora: 1'000 azioni al portatore da CHF 500. 00]. Aumento ordinario. Nuove persone iscritte o modifiche: Kurtisi, Zefir, cittadino germanico, in Bubikon, membro, senza diritto di firma. Registro giornaliero no 1877 del 10.02.2014 / CHE-205.677.760 / 01344987 That means, that...this document is not older then 9 days and that BITMINE.CH has just doubled it's share capital, which is good news. So curently the company's capital is 1 mio CHF. They however didn't have time to make any news nor information about this on their web since they probably do their best to finish rigs and clear the delivery queue. Find me another rig vendor in the world with that much money backing...and I'll shut up. For all people here who are angry at Giorgio and his team : Yes, they have (had) lousy support and made promises, they coudn't keep, but so were the others and this is their mistake, but I hope everything will be allright at the end. Who would double share capital if they are facing serious charges and possible bankrupcy ? So I rather think, company is finally ready for bigtime operation, and all this in the past was just startup mistakes... Comments, anyone ? did they "promise" you faster shipping you if you post that?? ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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NO they didn't, but I used to have a lot of years in IT and know how it can be a problem when you have no means of communications. This might be the reason why they don't answer your E-mails : >>> Problema Internet Swisscom A causa di un problema sulla rete internet di Swisscom i nostri clienti che hanno Swisscom come Provider Internet potrebbero riscontrare problemi (internet assente, chiamate ... Leggi tutto → 20 febbraio 2013 // Nessun Commento Problema Routing Chiamate in entrata Stiamo riscontrando dei problemi a ricevere le chiamate in entrata, il problema è causato a monte dal sistema di routing globale stiamo lavorando per riprestinare ... Leggi tutto → 7 febbraio 2013 // Nessun Commento source : http://exion.ch/category/news/ (other Giorgio's company, or should I say, BITMINE AG's parent company)... This is also not new...Cointerra had also security breaches and communication problems...
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February 19, 2014, 12:24:28 AM |
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No worries.. if no news is sent about my miner shipping by Tuesday, then I will take the refund i guess..
Sigh.. I expected more from you Bitmine.
You have disappointed me,
Sincerly akumaburn,
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