Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread

[Biomech]

It seems to me that Bitmine's biggest problem is the same as AMT's. Lack of good front of the house communication. AMT at least have the excuse of being somewhat amateurs.

Funny excuse that.

That aside, I dont see too many parallels. I understand Bitmine customers are nervous, but from where I sit, Bitmine delivered a working asic almost on schedule and fully on spec. Almost unheard of in this industry. As for the miners, while they are late, there is a quite decent protection program that should guarantee customers significant higher hashrate or if need be, a 110% refund . Again, thats unheard off in this industry.

AMT otoh, is a shadowy marketeer who Im betting, is just throwing someone else's boards and chips in an overpriced and unsuitable case and sells that along with a pack of lies.

on schedule ... you do realize they where to be shipped in DEC almost 2 months ago. look at the loss of BTC from those buyers ...on schedule CRAZY !

We were talking about the ASIC, not the machine.

[SirWizz]

It seems to me that Bitmine's biggest problem is the same as AMT's. Lack of good front of the house communication. AMT at least have the excuse of being somewhat amateurs.

Funny excuse that.

That aside, I dont see too many parallels. I understand Bitmine customers are nervous, but from where I sit, Bitmine delivered a working asic almost on schedule and fully on spec. Almost unheard of in this industry. As for the miners, while they are late, there is a quite decent protection program that should guarantee customers significant higher hashrate or if need be, a 110% refund . Again, thats unheard off in this industry.

AMT otoh, is a shadowy marketeer who Im betting, is just throwing someone else's boards and chips in an overpriced and unsuitable case and sells that along with a pack of lies.

on schedule ... you do realize they where to be shipped in DEC almost 2 months ago. look at the loss of BTC from those buyers ...on schedule CRAZY !

We were talking about the ASIC, not the machine.

That doesn't make sense either. They were supposed to ship miners Dec 16, which means they should have received chips 1-2 weeks prior. If my understanding is correct, they received chips in enough quantity at the end of January, so two months later  .

[Biomech]

It seems to me that Bitmine's biggest problem is the same as AMT's. Lack of good front of the house communication. AMT at least have the excuse of being somewhat amateurs.

Funny excuse that.

That aside, I dont see too many parallels. I understand Bitmine customers are nervous, but from where I sit, Bitmine delivered a working asic almost on schedule and fully on spec. Almost unheard of in this industry. As for the miners, while they are late, there is a quite decent protection program that should guarantee customers significant higher hashrate or if need be, a 110% refund . Again, thats unheard off in this industry.

AMT otoh, is a shadowy marketeer who Im betting, is just throwing someone else's boards and chips in an overpriced and unsuitable case and sells that along with a pack of lies.

on schedule ... you do realize they where to be shipped in DEC almost 2 months ago. look at the loss of BTC from those buyers ...on schedule CRAZY !

We were talking about the ASIC, not the machine.

That doesn't make sense either. They were supposed to ship miners Dec 16, which means they should have received chips 1-2 weeks prior. If my understanding is correct, they received chips in enough quantity at the end of January, so two months later  .

Can't recall. I actually thought they had them first week in January, but I could be wrong. They were late, one way or the other, but less late than most everyone else.

What the hell happened since then is anybody's guess, since Giorgio is contradicting himself and/or ignoring questions... Ah well. I'm glad I have no pre-orders. Missed the boat on KNC Jupiter, and watched too many people get burned on the rest. Ants or used for this cowboy.

[SirWizz]

We (sort of) know what happened.

1. Crappy engineering (how many PCB revisions now, I surely lost track).
2. Chip delays.
3. Crappy desk/rig manufacturing and logistics.

Add all of the above together, sprinkle with a healthy dose of incompetence and lack of communication - et voila - this is Bitmine's recipe for success! 

[Puppet]

TO be clear, I said the asics were almost on time. They showed working asics at the end of december, which was later than anticipated, but not that much compared to most other vendors. The delay in getting miners out of the door is more inline with the competition .

[SirWizz]

TO be clear, I said the asics were almost on time. They showed working asics at the end of december, which was later than anticipated, but not that much compared to most other vendors. The delay in getting miners out of the door is more inline with the competition .

Those were only some engineering samples and they have received the bulk chips at the end of Jan (that's why "production started" on Jan 30). So again, the chips were 2 months late compared to their initial timeline. Let's keep the facts and record straight.

[mmitech]

there is also someone from Slovenia reported about receiving his First miner of many he ordered and when asked, he said this one was for free as a compensation..

link to the facebook Group page https://www.facebook.com/groups/623945517630985/

[RetroGamer]

8 coincraft desk
1A1 - 1D1
looks under worker details

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

[georgem]

Finally a screenshot of their web interface...

[segaklon]

8 coincraft desk
1A1 - 1D1
looks under worker details

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

Hello, nice to read you after several days without hearing from you, you can confirm if you have already received the miners.

thanks

[Tegija]

8 coincraft desk
1A1 - 1D1
looks under worker details

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

do i see it right:its 50TH?

it means 50 desks and if they should get next week next 60 desks then its almost my queue to get my miners. i am pretty sure bit mine ships petahash out of queue, otherwise i would not have such low queue #.

i will contact my lawyer direkt tomorrow if i don't get my pickup date immideatly.

[psycho-pass]

8 coincraft desk
1A1 - 1D1
looks under worker details

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

 

[segaklon]

8 coincraft desk
1A1 - 1D1
looks under worker details

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

do i see it right:its 50TH?

it means 50 desks and if they should get next week next 60 desks then its almost my queue to get my miners. i am pretty sure bit mine ships petahash out of queue, otherwise i would not have such low queue #.

i will contact my lawyer direkt tomorrow if i don't get my pickup date immideatly.

I think they are having working miners Petamine


Deployment schedule:
 
Cointerra
 
Currently:             26 TerraMiners fully deployed-------------26x 1,5-- 39 Thash
 Next week:          4 TerraMiners
 
Bitmine:
 
Currently:             8 Coincraft Desks fully deployed---------------------8thash
 Next week:          62 Coincraft Desks
 Week 10:              55 Coincraft Rigs
 Week 11:              55 Coincraft Rigs
 Week 12:              55 Coincraft Rigs
 
Week 13-15:       250 TH/s of custom hardware together with the first reinvestment units



This they have added 47-49 undermining Thash

[horrorhorst]

I have following positions in the shipping queue: 34,35,36 (2x 200ghs desk and 1x 1th desk) and still got no informations from bitmine when my orders will be ready!

Iam an old avalon clone (batch #2) customer but bitmine doenst give a single fuck about the old customers and send miners to petamine, which has a contract for the early januar batch! (source: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=PETA - •   CryptX has also a contract with Bitmine to deliver up to 180 TH/s of their devices of batch 1 early January.)

Whats wrong with them


Iam pretty sure they alrdy have produced more then 50 units and unit 34,35,36 + upgrades should be mine....

[Ultros]

Well the good news is that they are delivering at least.

[Tegija]

I think they are having working miners Petamine


Deployment schedule:
 
Cointerra
 
Currently:             26 TerraMiners fully deployed-------------26x 1,5-- 39 Thash
 Next week:          4 TerraMiners
 
Bitmine:
 
Currently:             8 Coincraft Desks fully deployed---------------------8thash
 Next week:          62 Coincraft Desks
 Week 10:              55 Coincraft Rigs
 Week 11:              55 Coincraft Rigs
 Week 12:              55 Coincraft Rigs
 
Week 13-15:       250 TH/s of custom hardware together with the first reinvestment units



This they have added 47-49 undermining Thash

OK. i understand...
But...

if they get their 62 Desks next week, then look following quote:

Queue Position               
14 lclc              109x 9 September Bitcoin                   CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Switzerland (local pickup)   
16 mare           108x 9 September Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Rig 2 TH/s Switzerland (local pickup)   
50 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   Transferred from Avalon Clone order
51 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
52 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
53 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
54 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
55 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
56 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
57 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
58 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
59 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   "
59 baros008     126x 10 SeptembeBank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Czech Republic   
60 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June        Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s Germany   Transferred from Avalon Clone order
61 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June       Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s Germany   "
62 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June       Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s Germany   "
63 RetroGamer 15xx 25 June       Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Germany   "
67 Roy Badami 161x 15 September Bitcoin                CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s United Kingdom   
13x dplusf        145x 18 November Bitcoin                 CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Germany   
143 MasterX     182x 20 September Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s Belgium   
143 Matni         203x 30 September Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s United Kingdom   
143 Matni         203x 30 September Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s United Kingdom   
143 Matni         203x 30 September Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s United Kingdom   
? xnu               190x 24 September Bank/Wire Transfer CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Lithuania   
? tvskit             299x 27 September Bitcoin                   CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Russia   Ordered through 50btc.com
? BuTaJIu4eK    34x 30 September Bitcoin                     CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Ukraine   
159 Uwe501     210x Early October ? ? 1.5 TH/s ?   
? axelutsk         43x 12 October Bitcoin                         CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Ukraine   Ordered through 50btc.com
18x Keefe         220x 13 October Bitcoin                       CoinCraft Desk 600 GH/s United States   
? Mraxen95       450x 14 October Bitcoin                       CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Russia   Ordered through 50btc.com
207 blizzen       228x 19 October Bitcoin                       CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Germany   
22x Mork          228x 21 October Bank/Wire Transfer     CoinCraft Desk 200 GH/s Germany   
221 Omen1855 234x 26 October Bitcoin                       CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s Belgium   Upgraded from 400 GH/s to 1 TH/s on November 25
240 Omen1855 234x 4 November Bitcoin                      CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s Belgium   Ordered earlier than paid
295 Zelek Uther239x 30 October Bank/Wire Transfer     CoinCraft Rig 2 TH/s New Zealand   
? deceiver         26xx 23 November Bank/Wire Transfer  CoinCraft Desk 400 GH/s Spain   
? segaklon        298x 27 November Bank/Wire Transfer  CoinCraft Desk
none of them got a message for delivery date

If this queue is correct then there question open to retrogamer:

DO YOU HAVE ALREADY YOUR SHIPPING DATE?

if not, then how can pet amine get their 62 miners? if they get 62 desks before retrogamer gets his then they are shipping out of queue. there is practically no place for 62 Desks.
same thing with rigs: my rig has place 60+ in rigs queue, so if they get 55 rigs in week 10 and in retrogamers list are some rigs (and for sure in this list are not all of them listed) then i should get my miners already coming week (week 09).
Bitmine.ch said to me that they will call me at least 5 days before my miners are ready to give exact day when they are ready. i still don't have exact date...

something is really stinking here...

[Tegija]

Well the good news is that they are delivering at least.

what a bullshit!
if they are shipping out of queue then nobody can be sure about anything! if you are in beginning of queue and don't get your miner, then it isn´t good news! in this case its the most shitty news, because it shows just that bimine.ch is cheating us.

[Wolke]

read this and you don't unterstand bitmine ever...

http://bitmine.ch/?p=5174

    Posted on February 12, 2014
    by Giorgio Massarotto
    in Coincraft series, News

"We will strictly respect the delivery queues order, please don’t contact us to ask to speedup your position as we will not accept any kind of such requests, because of its obvious unfairness in respect to the other customers."

[Tegija]

read this and you don't unterstand bitmine ever...

http://bitmine.ch/?p=5174

    Posted on February 12, 2014
    by Giorgio Massarotto
    in Coincraft series, News

"We will strictly respect the delivery queues order, please don’t contact us to ask to speedup your position as we will not accept any kind of such requests, because of its obvious unfairness in respect to the other customers."

it can be even truth. i don't think that petahash had to make request. i am sure it was made up already before that the first miner go to them, not considering how many customers are already in shipping queue. obviously petahash has shipping queue #-55 to #-1, no difference when they were ordering. they (petahash) had same deal with cointerra: ordering end of november and slipping smoothly to december batch (shipped out in last 2 weeks).

[websmith]

well, I know for sure if I get my mining rig in a month I'll order more