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December 28, 2013, 09:28:51 AM |
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I'm only asking this to make sure it's not part of the breach. I was a bit interested in the Amazon.com approach to hash rate on the banner. Even if the site said I wasn't logged in it would still show my hash rate. I always found that interesting... though not technically a problem (if they understood the possible season implications which persist to this day).
Regardless its an issue that should be sorted. Not sure how they manage sessions but its sloppy.
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December 28, 2013, 04:05:31 PM |
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Still not able to get my bitcoins out. We're going on 4 days now. I am a BFL pre-order veteran, and I'm having flashbacks of a slick company spokesperson joshing me. Talk is cheap. It's been 4 days. I want my money.
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December 28, 2013, 04:23:49 PM |
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December 28, 2013, 04:38:41 PM |
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Wonder if hashcows and middlecoin have a connection, would be good for the middlecoin admin to pull the IP if he has it..
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December 28, 2013, 05:22:40 PM |
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December 26th? That's two days after the Hashcows theft. Why the hell would he start mining to the same address two days after stealing 40BTC from another coin-switching pool? This bloke's incredibly arrogant, or incredibly stupid, or both. Or is he trying to somehow dilute or launder his ill-gotten goods? https://blockchain.info/address/13R87ropkDKzDEuVeQoX64kkcLvPWVdTKHHe's starting to spend the funds.
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December 28, 2013, 06:40:39 PM |
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Still not able to get my bitcoins out. We're going on 4 days now. I am a BFL pre-order veteran, and I'm having flashbacks of a slick company spokesperson joshing me. Talk is cheap. It's been 4 days. I want my money.
It has been less than 48 hours since our announcement, we are 90% complete and plan on having it ready to go tonight. If you are in that dire of need for your BTC please feel free to PM me, I'll personally send you you're BTC out of pocket.
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December 28, 2013, 07:09:21 PM |
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Still not able to get my bitcoins out. We're going on 4 days now. I am a BFL pre-order veteran, and I'm having flashbacks of a slick company spokesperson joshing me. Talk is cheap. It's been 4 days. I want my money.
It has been less than 48 hours since our announcement, we are 90% complete and plan on having it ready to go tonight. If you are in that dire of need for your BTC please feel free to PM me, I'll personally send you you're BTC out of pocket. Very nice. I was wondering why the exchanges cannot ban a wallet that has been proven as a repository for stolen funds? That would at least make liquidating stolen funds tougher I would think? Just thinking here.
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December 28, 2013, 07:17:09 PM |
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Very nice.
I was wondering why the exchanges cannot ban a wallet that has been proven as a repository for stolen funds? That would at least make liquidating stolen funds tougher I would think? Just thinking here.
I think the big sticking point with that is the question of who decides what is "stolen funds". A large part of Bitcoin's appeal is it's decentralized nature. No government, nor bureaucrat, nor bankster, nor judge may decide where, how, or with whom you spend your money. If an organization should be created to "blacklist" coins or wallets, how long until suddenly spends to Wikileaks become "stolen" for political convenience?
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chalidore
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December 28, 2013, 08:08:59 PM |
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Not in dire need at all. Actually, today is my birthday, and I'm going to try to buy a truck with bitcoin today. Selling a used car salesman on accepting bitcoin is gonna be awesome. I just get a little nervous when I see situations like this involving any amount of my bitcoins. Your fast response and offer to send me your bitcoins puts me at ease. You guys are stand up folks, and I seriously dig it. I'm going to build a bigger gpu farm and aim it at your pool. Thanks for showing responsibility and integrity in a tough situation.
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December 28, 2013, 08:10:21 PM |
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December 26th? That's two days after the Hashcows theft. Why the hell would he start mining to the same address two days after stealing 40BTC from another coin-switching pool? This bloke's incredibly arrogant, or incredibly stupid, or both. Or is he trying to somehow dilute or launder his ill-gotten goods? https://blockchain.info/address/13R87ropkDKzDEuVeQoX64kkcLvPWVdTKHHe's starting to spend the funds. Probably trying to find a soft spot on the other pools ?
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December 28, 2013, 08:14:51 PM |
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Very nice.
I was wondering why the exchanges cannot ban a wallet that has been proven as a repository for stolen funds? That would at least make liquidating stolen funds tougher I would think? Just thinking here.
I think the big sticking point with that is the question of who decides what is "stolen funds". A large part of Bitcoin's appeal is it's decentralized nature. No government, nor bureaucrat, nor bankster, nor judge may decide where, how, or with whom you spend your money. If an organization should be created to "blacklist" coins or wallets, how long until suddenly spends to Wikileaks become "stolen" for political convenience? That does make sense although something like a dispute service for exchanges similar to paypal that locks the wallet from trading while a result is found? I'm only talking about the exchanges. I doubt there could even be a way to lock wallets without destroying the nature of the beast. Not in dire need at all. Actually, today is my birthday, and I'm going to try to buy a truck with bitcoin today. Selling a used car salesman on accepting bitcoin is gonna be awesome. I just get a little nervous when I see situations like this involving any amount of my bitcoins. Your fast response and offer to send me your bitcoins puts me at ease. You guys are stand up folks, and I seriously dig it. I'm going to build a bigger gpu farm and aim it at your pool. Thanks for showing responsibility and integrity in a tough situation.
Happy Birthday! What car?
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chalidore
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December 28, 2013, 08:21:46 PM |
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Gonna get me a Chevy Silverado 2500 Diesel. Gonna run it on Biodiesel. anyone wanting to help pay for it, send BTC to 1L52qx88JaFhmrRq9YjtLgGN774SPRXGkB
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December 28, 2013, 08:36:28 PM |
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All the thief has to do is transfer the money to an exchange, and then back to another wallet. Or transfer to another coin at an exchange, to a wallet, back to an exchange, back to BTC, and to another wallet and/or spend the coins at a bitcoin retailer.
The coins will not be traceable after all that and the trail will be cold.
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December 28, 2013, 09:52:29 PM |
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All the thief has to do is transfer the money to an exchange, and then back to another wallet. Or transfer to another coin at an exchange, to a wallet, back to an exchange, back to BTC, and to another wallet and/or spend the coins at a bitcoin retailer.
The coins will not be traceable after all that and the trail will be cold.
Thats not true at all.
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December 29, 2013, 01:26:19 AM |
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All the thief has to do is transfer the money to an exchange, and then back to another wallet. Or transfer to another coin at an exchange, to a wallet, back to an exchange, back to BTC, and to another wallet and/or spend the coins at a bitcoin retailer.
The coins will not be traceable after all that and the trail will be cold.
Thats not true at all. It is to a point. The only records to connect the coins would exist on the exchange and not a madder of public record.
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December 29, 2013, 01:31:23 AM |
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All the thief has to do is transfer the money to an exchange, and then back to another wallet. Or transfer to another coin at an exchange, to a wallet, back to an exchange, back to BTC, and to another wallet and/or spend the coins at a bitcoin retailer.
The coins will not be traceable after all that and the trail will be cold.
Thats not true at all. the blockchain shows 10btc transferred out of that wallet. how do you know where the 10btc is now? if it was exchanged for a pickup truck, or dogecoins you'll never know.
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December 29, 2013, 01:50:56 AM |
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In this case, I know exactly where that 10BTC is. It was sent to a wallet with past history, but was at 0BTC before this transaction. https://blockchain.info/address/1EqUoGGHuHp7VmcN8PSH3B2qNfpKzbdUevThe nature of the blockchain means the stolen funds can be tracked indefinitely, though they can be mixed or diluted with other coin which would complicate the picture. If they ended up in an exchange they'd get horribly diluted before being cashed out to some other user of the exchange who had nothing to do with the theft. That's the other inherent danger of "blacklisting" coins. You're ultimately going to hurt innocent people, which would ruin confidence in the currency. The coin must remain fungible!
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December 29, 2013, 04:41:35 AM |
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This is why MIddlecoin is better in this part, I wouldnt be surprised if this is the reason middlecoin is what it is and the way it is, without a front.. I am betting it would be more complicated to hack Middlecoin.... I mean how would a hacker change the payout addresses there, we all have our workers usernames as our BTC wallet addresses. I think this is one of the reasons middlecoin is what it is. The less there is up front the less there is for people to hack with.
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December 29, 2013, 04:42:46 AM |
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Hashcows Official Update: * Re-payment issued to all affected miners * Payment addresses rolled back to pre-incident values * Payment for most rounds the past few days added to balances * Temporary cashout tool setup at https://co.hashco.ws- Notes about the cashout tool * Please ignore the cert warning on page load. its because I re-used the cert for www.hashco.ws instead of setting up a new one for co.hashco.ws (time better spent elsewhere) * The tool will *only* allow you to cash out current balances. Any modifications required to settings will need an email to support@ for the time being. * The tool requires a valid/active email address on the account, as it verifies via sending email. * Payments may be a bit slow in coming at the start. We are keeping a short leash on things as we ramp back up. Once you submit via the tool and its successful, your in the queue to be processed. At this time the website itself remains in a read-only state, and likely will for the time being until we get the new portal out the door. This means no logins, password resets, or signups will function. If you need to perform these actions before being able to use the tool email support@ and we'll help you out. Thanks to everyone for your patience and support. This is by no means meant as a permanent situation, and we realize its not ideal. Hopefully it will at least let people get their coins out as needed while we work on getting you a finished product.
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Profit-Switching Pool w/ Vardiff -> http://hashco.ws Optionally keep the alts we mine or auto-trade for BTC. In addition can be paid out in any of: 365, AC, BC, BTC, C2, CINNI, COMM, FAC, HBN, MINT, PMC, QRK, RDD, WC, XBC
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December 29, 2013, 04:44:33 AM |
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This is why MIddlecoin is much better, I now understand why there is not much of a front.. Harder to hack Middlecoin.... I mean how would a hacker hack middlecoin, we all have our workers usernames as our BTC wallet addresses. I think this is one of the reasons middlecoin is what it is.
Well, Middlecoin has diff set to 512, but hashcows has vardiff. If someone has low hashing power, high diff is not very good imho.
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