[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

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why did he even admit to trading his own stock, was that a serious lack in judgement ?...

Alcoholism.

Well good thing all the exchanges he did it on have shut down. Prosecutors wouldn't be able to get proof of it

This forum is an amazing paper trail.  If this never gets prosecuted, it's not for lack of evidence.

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why did he even admit to trading his own stock, was that a serious lack in judgement ?...

Alcoholism.

Well good thing all the exchanges he did it on have shut down. Prosecutors wouldn't be able to get proof of it

This forum is an amazing paper trail.  If this never gets prosecuted, it's not for lack of evidence.

Remember folks, if you hold shares in ActM and Ken gets prosecuted, we have 0.

Of course Crumbs wants Ken to fail, because then we all fail and he would have been right.

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I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

Ken is selling unregistered securities to US persons -- a far graver transgression than insider trading.

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This forum is an amazing paper trail.  If this never gets prosecuted, it's not for lack of evidence.

Remember folks, if you hold shares in ActM and Ken gets prosecuted, we have 0.

Of course Crumbs wants Ken to fail, because then we all fail and he would have been right.

Please don't confuse my pointing out that everything said on this forum is likely to be cataloged, parsed, and mined by interested TLAs with my investment in Ken's failure.
The first is a statement of fact, made obvious with the pirateat40 case.  The latter is simply bitter conjecture on your part.

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Remember folks, if you hold shares in ActM and Ken gets prosecuted, we have 0.

Of course Crumbs wants Ken to fail, because then we all fail and he would have been right.

There is no "Remember Folks", 95% of the board has crumbs on ignore but you, stuartUK, and a few other seem to think he has any power over where this stock goes and continue to quote and converse with him.

I guess it doesn't really matter considering you have been told multiple times by various forum members to let crumbs have his tantrums as it will just end up getting deleted.

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If Ken is smart he won't release the news until trading is live.  He has been known for insider trading.  He will buy up shares first (probably with avalon refunds) and then release the news/pictures and dump back his shares after he pumps the shit out of them  So this is another reason why we need to get trading.

why did he even admit to trading his own stock, was that a serious lack in judgement ? I remember reading that, it did not surprise me but it surprised me that he said that

he is in the USA for pete's sake! practically the only country that prosecutes insider trading, and gives the longest sentences known to man for it!

I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

lol, no. ^ even if this were registered securities where did the hell do you get this stuff

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Remember folks, if you hold shares in ActM and Ken gets prosecuted, we have 0.

Of course Crumbs wants Ken to fail, because then we all fail and he would have been right.

There is no "Remember Folks", 95% of the board has crumbs on ignore but you, stuartUK, and a few other seem to think he has any power over where this stock goes and continue to quote and converse with him.

I guess it doesn't really matter considering you have been told multiple times by various forum members to let crumbs have his tantrums as it will just end up getting deleted.

You, Bargraphics, you had tremendous power when you convinced people that Terrahash was legit.  And when Terrahash vanished and the money was gone, you deleted everything.  The Terrahash thread is there to remind everyone that approval from you is a sure sign of fraud.

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Here we go again. The CEO is allowed to trade stock in his own company. It is not considered insider trading. It happens all the time. Many people watch when CEO's buy or sell stock as this could be an indication of where the stock price is heading. Nothing illegal about it.

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lol, no. ^ even if this were registered securities where did the hell do you get this stuff

I just had a quick look through some legal documents and you seem to be right, I remember having a solid reference for this last time the discussion came up but I can't find it.

Anyway stslimited, Ken bought in at 0.004, not really indicative of insider trading is it?

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Here we go again. The CEO is allowed to trade stock in his own company. It is not considered insider trading. It happens all the time. Many people watch when CEO's buy or sell stock as this could be an indication of where the stock price is heading. Nothing illegal about it.

yeah its highly regulated, large shareholders have to file certain SEC forms, and many executives can only trade in predefined intervals to avoid illegal insider trading scrutiny

[Bargraphics]

Here we go again. The CEO is allowed to trade stock in his own company. It is not considered insider trading. It happens all the time. Many people watch when CEO's buy or sell stock as this could be an indication of where the stock price is heading. Nothing illegal about it.

yeah its highly regulated, large shareholders have to file certain SEC forms, and many executives can only trade in predefined intervals to avoid illegal insider trading scrutiny

You have an issue with unproven "insider trading" and tell us what regulated securities and the SEC make you do but have no issue that this is an unregulated security? Cart before the horse it seems.

[VolanicEruptor]

Did you say that the final announcement will be on February 1st of 2014?
Is that when it will all be done?

What in Gods name are you talking about?
That that made absolutely no sense.  Are you drunk?

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I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

Ken is selling unregistered securities to US persons -- a far graver transgression than insider trading.

We're all taking a risk and so that is even more motivation to succeed.
Go draw portals.

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I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

Ken is selling unregistered securities to US persons -- a far graver transgression than insider trading.

We're all taking a risk and so that is even more motivation to succeed.
Go draw portals.

Just remember Crumbs probably wants us to fail just so he can gloat and laugh at us.

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I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

Ken is selling unregistered securities to US persons -- a far graver transgression than insider trading.

We're all taking a risk and so that is even more motivation to succeed.
Go draw portals.

Just remember Crumbs probably wants us to fail just so he can gloat and laugh at us.

Oh really?  I thought he was here to save us with his cute kindergarten art 

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I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

Ken is selling unregistered securities to US persons -- a far graver transgression than insider trading.

We're all taking a risk and so that is even more motivation to succeed.
Go draw portals.

Just remember Crumbs probably wants us to fail just so he can gloat and laugh at us.

Oh really?  I thought he was here to save us with his cute kindergarten art 

Volanic:
I've accepted your financial failings as an immutable, though unfortunate fact of life.  Efforts to save you from yourself are as productive as railing against gravity.
Honestly, sometimes i think you post here only to grumble and pick fights.

[JoTheKhan]

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I was under the impression an Executive has to give 48 hours notice before making a trade. So Ken's only mistake was trading in secret, as it's not outright illegal.

Ken is selling unregistered securities to US persons -- a far graver transgression than insider trading.

We're all taking a risk and so that is even more motivation to succeed.
Go draw portals.

Just remember Crumbs probably wants us to fail just so he can gloat and laugh at us.

Oh really?  I thought he was here to save us with his cute kindergarten art 

Volanic:
I've accepted your financial failings as an immutable, though unfortunate fact of life.  Efforts to save you from yourself are as productive as railing against gravity.
Honestly, sometimes i think you post here only to grumble and pick fights.

So what you have been doing for the last few months on this thread and quite a few others can best be described by yourself as unproductive? ahh ok.

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Volanic:
I've accepted your financial failings as an immutable, though unfortunate fact of life.  Efforts to save you from yourself are as productive as railing against gravity.
Honestly, sometimes i think you post here only to grumble and pick fights.

So what you have been doing for the last few months on this thread and quite a few others can best be described by yourself as unproductive? ahh ok.

Nah.
Active Mining is the cancer in the butt of bitcoin.  I am treating it with chemo to halt metastasis.  Though the chemo won't save you, the affected cells, it must be done for the sake of my bitcoin.
I wish things could be different, but all of my warnings fell on deaf ears.

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Despite the death threats in PM, and the endless phone calls from detractors. He goes on!
Is that not bravery? Is that not heroism?

It's enlightened self-interest.  I don't want the good name of my bitcoin to be sullied with lowbrow scams & failures the likes of Active Mining.

[RoadStress]

So what's going on here? I see that their website still states November shipping. People still think this will end up well?