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February 17, 2014, 02:06:23 PM
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According to the diff, the pool factory should be the closest to the truth.

Me, and others pools are using the getmininginfo return, who says
    "netmhashps" : 293.35217118,

I think it's more a display error.

I'm running several HBN daemons, and they all says the same hash.

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February 17, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
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According to the diff, the pool factory should be the closest to the truth.

Me, and others pools are using the getmininginfo return, who says
    "netmhashps" : 293.35217118,

I think it's more a display error.

I'm running several HBN daemons, and they all says the same hash.

I think getmininginfo should be the correct way to get the network hash rate. All pools (plus my client) are showing the same rate, except theblocksfactory.
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February 17, 2014, 02:16:06 PM
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According to the diff, the pool factory should be the closest to the truth.

Me, and others pools are using the getmininginfo return, who says
    "netmhashps" : 293.35217118,

I think it's more a display error.

I'm running several HBN daemons, and they all says the same hash.

I think getmininginfo should be the correct way to get the network hash rate. All pools (plus my client) are showing the same rate, except theblocksfactory.

SO the hashrate is true? Who would mine this? It is so unprofitable now. What's the point? Better to buy it. I could solomine this with my 5MH rig just fine before but now lol it is really hard.
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February 17, 2014, 02:18:07 PM
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According to the diff, the pool factory should be the closest to the truth.

Me, and others pools are using the getmininginfo return, who says
    "netmhashps" : 293.35217118,

I think it's more a display error.

I'm running several HBN daemons, and they all says the same hash.

I think getmininginfo should be the correct way to get the network hash rate. All pools (plus my client) are showing the same rate, except theblocksfactory.

My theory is if the nethash is RIGHT, the diff is WRONG.
And according to what I see, the last minutes, blocks are coming more frequently than every 30s, so I think the nethash is WRONG

BTCTC: 1JiQmXauxsgc5aEygF7soxkaB717VgWVdH
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February 17, 2014, 02:22:25 PM
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According to the diff, the pool factory should be the closest to the truth.

Me, and others pools are using the getmininginfo return, who says
    "netmhashps" : 293.35217118,

I think it's more a display error.

I'm running several HBN daemons, and they all says the same hash.

I think getmininginfo should be the correct way to get the network hash rate. All pools (plus my client) are showing the same rate, except theblocksfactory.

My theory is if the nethash is RIGHT, the diff is WRONG.
And according to what I see, the last minutes, blocks are coming more frequently than every 30s, so I think the nethash is WRONG

According to the pools blocks are coming every 85 seconds (should be 30 seconds). So IMHO diff is wrong.
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February 17, 2014, 02:36:51 PM
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According to the pools blocks are coming every 85 seconds (should be 30 seconds). So IMHO diff is wrong.

Yes for the pool, but I'm more thinking about a botnet or something like this mining outside pools...

Here is the last network blocks :
Code:
02/17/14 14:24:31 SetBestChain: new best=3961ab446cd876537ada  height=598216  trust=984307578991  date=02/17/14 14:24:23
02/17/14 14:24:35 SetBestChain: new best=7e477a9ef08472b25c87  height=598217  trust=984326627388  date=02/17/14 14:24:27
02/17/14 14:25:03 SetBestChain: new best=64cc7000794c656eb1d4  height=598218  trust=984345747999  date=02/17/14 14:24:53
02/17/14 14:25:10 SetBestChain: new best=2d9cad58a02fa99666c7  height=598219  trust=984364879922  date=02/17/14 14:25:08
02/17/14 14:25:13 SetBestChain: new best=894ce79cc51d56deee60  height=598220  trust=984384053548  date=02/17/14 14:25:01
02/17/14 14:25:40 SetBestChain: new best=fdb091acdda7799cc3a8  height=598221  trust=984403330374  date=02/17/14 14:25:29
02/17/14 14:25:44 SetBestChain: new best=156d33769cc0322ba29c  height=598222  trust=984422612947  date=02/17/14 14:25:35
02/17/14 14:26:04 SetBestChain: new best=0000000012b5e5275362  height=598223  trust=984422637285  date=02/17/14 14:25:47
02/17/14 14:26:15 SetBestChain: new best=000000001256d2091e3b  height=598224  trust=984422661262  date=02/17/14 14:26:02
02/17/14 14:27:15 SetBestChain: new best=096f65cfdb815c01de8e  height=598225  trust=984442011025  date=02/17/14 14:27:05
02/17/14 14:27:33 SetBestChain: new best=519c578df6fe44dacedf  height=598226  trust=984461194353  date=02/17/14 14:27:25
02/17/14 14:27:49 SetBestChain: new best=c196f66ed0e0beb0d7b0  height=598227  trust=984480405500  date=02/17/14 14:27:45
02/17/14 14:28:01 SetBestChain: new best=32aa1702ed1e10ed9b69  height=598228  trust=984499644548  date=02/17/14 14:27:51
02/17/14 14:28:40 SetBestChain: new best=88ac3a6af40c87a97e8b  height=598229  trust=984518950822  date=02/17/14 14:28:30
02/17/14 14:28:57 SetBestChain: new best=b0f9e3af9248df8ede61  height=598230  trust=984538232043  date=02/17/14 14:28:47
02/17/14 14:29:26 SetBestChain: new best=2ce638a39068684631ba  height=598231  trust=984557549850  date=02/17/14 14:29:17
02/17/14 14:29:53 SetBestChain: new best=c1809e7b3b151d8132ae  height=598232  trust=984576867657  date=02/17/14 14:29:43
02/17/14 14:30:10 SetBestChain: new best=d6babce9a9ef02306eff  height=598233  trust=984596196670  date=02/17/14 14:30:24
02/17/14 14:30:34 SetBestChain: new best=060bdd0d0c702b2d8e90  height=598234  trust=984615495150  date=02/17/14 14:30:22
02/17/14 14:30:39 SetBestChain: new best=21fc4ac8e402869386f3  height=598235  trust=984634883470  date=02/17/14 14:30:29
02/17/14 14:30:51 SetBestChain: new best=a5fbeb04760a8382d162  height=598236  trust=984654336622  date=02/17/14 14:30:46
02/17/14 14:31:14 SetBestChain: new best=61d9a2267edb4dff595c  height=598237  trust=984673826671  date=02/17/14 14:31:02
02/17/14 14:31:37 SetBestChain: new best=aceec4018da3bc0df28d  height=598238  trust=984693356531  date=02/17/14 14:31:25
02/17/14 14:32:33 SetBestChain: new best=286647c97baeebf4aff5  height=598239  trust=984712906184  date=02/17/14 14:32:22
02/17/14 14:32:52 SetBestChain: new best=000000001e19ae2db9e2  height=598240  trust=984712931400  date=02/17/14 14:32:37
02/17/14 14:32:52 SetBestChain: new best=743f17c3a1f7e91eb1bf  height=598240  trust=984732380008  date=02/17/14 14:32:41
02/17/14 14:32:54 SetBestChain: new best=000000001e19ae2db9e2  height=598240  trust=984712931400  date=02/17/14 14:32:37
02/17/14 14:33:27 SetBestChain: new best=663f96d915952f51b66c  height=598241  trust=984732405224  date=02/17/14 14:33:16
02/17/14 14:33:59 SetBestChain: new best=0000000007acff511657  height=598242  trust=984732429278  date=02/17/14 14:33:26
02/17/14 14:34:51 SetBestChain: new best=00000000159dc97180aa  height=598243  trust=984732453266  date=02/17/14 14:34:01
02/17/14 14:35:04 SetBestChain: new best=000000001869be327c58  height=598244  trust=984732477236  date=02/17/14 14:34:50
02/17/14 14:35:17 SetBestChain: new best=0000000022cdfd66ea4f  height=598245  trust=984732501141  date=02/17/14 14:35:04
02/17/14 14:35:50 SetBestChain: new best=00000000071e02ca20be  height=598246  trust=984732525101  date=02/17/14 14:35:20
02/17/14 14:35:57 SetBestChain: new best=a3d4f8c19ca9fa4f750f  height=598247  trust=984751931900  date=02/17/14 14:35:48
02/17/14 14:36:22 SetBestChain: new best=00000000069b12be6157  height=598248  trust=984751956013  date=02/17/14 14:35:57

The average is WAY less than 30 seconds.

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HBN: EtWqbeUGWNYoB7WgW8ML14rxoxx7Bs4ySw
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February 17, 2014, 02:45:55 PM
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According to the pools blocks are coming every 85 seconds (should be 30 seconds). So IMHO diff is wrong.

Yes for the pool, but I'm more thinking about a botnet or something like this mining outside pools...

Here is the last network blocks :
Code:
02/17/14 14:24:31 SetBestChain: new best=3961ab446cd876537ada  height=598216  trust=984307578991  date=02/17/14 14:24:23
02/17/14 14:24:35 SetBestChain: new best=7e477a9ef08472b25c87  height=598217  trust=984326627388  date=02/17/14 14:24:27
02/17/14 14:25:03 SetBestChain: new best=64cc7000794c656eb1d4  height=598218  trust=984345747999  date=02/17/14 14:24:53
02/17/14 14:25:10 SetBestChain: new best=2d9cad58a02fa99666c7  height=598219  trust=984364879922  date=02/17/14 14:25:08
02/17/14 14:25:13 SetBestChain: new best=894ce79cc51d56deee60  height=598220  trust=984384053548  date=02/17/14 14:25:01
02/17/14 14:25:40 SetBestChain: new best=fdb091acdda7799cc3a8  height=598221  trust=984403330374  date=02/17/14 14:25:29
02/17/14 14:25:44 SetBestChain: new best=156d33769cc0322ba29c  height=598222  trust=984422612947  date=02/17/14 14:25:35
02/17/14 14:26:04 SetBestChain: new best=0000000012b5e5275362  height=598223  trust=984422637285  date=02/17/14 14:25:47
02/17/14 14:26:15 SetBestChain: new best=000000001256d2091e3b  height=598224  trust=984422661262  date=02/17/14 14:26:02
02/17/14 14:27:15 SetBestChain: new best=096f65cfdb815c01de8e  height=598225  trust=984442011025  date=02/17/14 14:27:05
02/17/14 14:27:33 SetBestChain: new best=519c578df6fe44dacedf  height=598226  trust=984461194353  date=02/17/14 14:27:25
02/17/14 14:27:49 SetBestChain: new best=c196f66ed0e0beb0d7b0  height=598227  trust=984480405500  date=02/17/14 14:27:45
02/17/14 14:28:01 SetBestChain: new best=32aa1702ed1e10ed9b69  height=598228  trust=984499644548  date=02/17/14 14:27:51
02/17/14 14:28:40 SetBestChain: new best=88ac3a6af40c87a97e8b  height=598229  trust=984518950822  date=02/17/14 14:28:30
02/17/14 14:28:57 SetBestChain: new best=b0f9e3af9248df8ede61  height=598230  trust=984538232043  date=02/17/14 14:28:47
02/17/14 14:29:26 SetBestChain: new best=2ce638a39068684631ba  height=598231  trust=984557549850  date=02/17/14 14:29:17
02/17/14 14:29:53 SetBestChain: new best=c1809e7b3b151d8132ae  height=598232  trust=984576867657  date=02/17/14 14:29:43
02/17/14 14:30:10 SetBestChain: new best=d6babce9a9ef02306eff  height=598233  trust=984596196670  date=02/17/14 14:30:24
02/17/14 14:30:34 SetBestChain: new best=060bdd0d0c702b2d8e90  height=598234  trust=984615495150  date=02/17/14 14:30:22
02/17/14 14:30:39 SetBestChain: new best=21fc4ac8e402869386f3  height=598235  trust=984634883470  date=02/17/14 14:30:29
02/17/14 14:30:51 SetBestChain: new best=a5fbeb04760a8382d162  height=598236  trust=984654336622  date=02/17/14 14:30:46
02/17/14 14:31:14 SetBestChain: new best=61d9a2267edb4dff595c  height=598237  trust=984673826671  date=02/17/14 14:31:02
02/17/14 14:31:37 SetBestChain: new best=aceec4018da3bc0df28d  height=598238  trust=984693356531  date=02/17/14 14:31:25
02/17/14 14:32:33 SetBestChain: new best=286647c97baeebf4aff5  height=598239  trust=984712906184  date=02/17/14 14:32:22
02/17/14 14:32:52 SetBestChain: new best=000000001e19ae2db9e2  height=598240  trust=984712931400  date=02/17/14 14:32:37
02/17/14 14:32:52 SetBestChain: new best=743f17c3a1f7e91eb1bf  height=598240  trust=984732380008  date=02/17/14 14:32:41
02/17/14 14:32:54 SetBestChain: new best=000000001e19ae2db9e2  height=598240  trust=984712931400  date=02/17/14 14:32:37
02/17/14 14:33:27 SetBestChain: new best=663f96d915952f51b66c  height=598241  trust=984732405224  date=02/17/14 14:33:16
02/17/14 14:33:59 SetBestChain: new best=0000000007acff511657  height=598242  trust=984732429278  date=02/17/14 14:33:26
02/17/14 14:34:51 SetBestChain: new best=00000000159dc97180aa  height=598243  trust=984732453266  date=02/17/14 14:34:01
02/17/14 14:35:04 SetBestChain: new best=000000001869be327c58  height=598244  trust=984732477236  date=02/17/14 14:34:50
02/17/14 14:35:17 SetBestChain: new best=0000000022cdfd66ea4f  height=598245  trust=984732501141  date=02/17/14 14:35:04
02/17/14 14:35:50 SetBestChain: new best=00000000071e02ca20be  height=598246  trust=984732525101  date=02/17/14 14:35:20
02/17/14 14:35:57 SetBestChain: new best=a3d4f8c19ca9fa4f750f  height=598247  trust=984751931900  date=02/17/14 14:35:48
02/17/14 14:36:22 SetBestChain: new best=00000000069b12be6157  height=598248  trust=984751956013  date=02/17/14 14:35:57

The average is WAY less than 30 seconds.

Even more interesting. What is this? An attack?

If those blocks make it to the regular chain, shouldn't the pools show a far less avg. time per block statistics? And a higher net hashrate? I'm confused. Smiley
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February 17, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
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According to the pools blocks are coming every 85 seconds (should be 30 seconds). So IMHO diff is wrong.

Yes for the pool, but I'm more thinking about a botnet or something like this mining outside pools...

Here is the last network blocks :
Code:
02/17/14 14:24:31 SetBestChain: new best=3961ab446cd876537ada  height=598216  trust=984307578991  date=02/17/14 14:24:23
02/17/14 14:24:35 SetBestChain: new best=7e477a9ef08472b25c87  height=598217  trust=984326627388  date=02/17/14 14:24:27
02/17/14 14:25:03 SetBestChain: new best=64cc7000794c656eb1d4  height=598218  trust=984345747999  date=02/17/14 14:24:53
02/17/14 14:25:10 SetBestChain: new best=2d9cad58a02fa99666c7  height=598219  trust=984364879922  date=02/17/14 14:25:08
02/17/14 14:25:13 SetBestChain: new best=894ce79cc51d56deee60  height=598220  trust=984384053548  date=02/17/14 14:25:01
02/17/14 14:25:40 SetBestChain: new best=fdb091acdda7799cc3a8  height=598221  trust=984403330374  date=02/17/14 14:25:29
02/17/14 14:25:44 SetBestChain: new best=156d33769cc0322ba29c  height=598222  trust=984422612947  date=02/17/14 14:25:35
02/17/14 14:26:04 SetBestChain: new best=0000000012b5e5275362  height=598223  trust=984422637285  date=02/17/14 14:25:47
02/17/14 14:26:15 SetBestChain: new best=000000001256d2091e3b  height=598224  trust=984422661262  date=02/17/14 14:26:02
02/17/14 14:27:15 SetBestChain: new best=096f65cfdb815c01de8e  height=598225  trust=984442011025  date=02/17/14 14:27:05
02/17/14 14:27:33 SetBestChain: new best=519c578df6fe44dacedf  height=598226  trust=984461194353  date=02/17/14 14:27:25
02/17/14 14:27:49 SetBestChain: new best=c196f66ed0e0beb0d7b0  height=598227  trust=984480405500  date=02/17/14 14:27:45
02/17/14 14:28:01 SetBestChain: new best=32aa1702ed1e10ed9b69  height=598228  trust=984499644548  date=02/17/14 14:27:51
02/17/14 14:28:40 SetBestChain: new best=88ac3a6af40c87a97e8b  height=598229  trust=984518950822  date=02/17/14 14:28:30
02/17/14 14:28:57 SetBestChain: new best=b0f9e3af9248df8ede61  height=598230  trust=984538232043  date=02/17/14 14:28:47
02/17/14 14:29:26 SetBestChain: new best=2ce638a39068684631ba  height=598231  trust=984557549850  date=02/17/14 14:29:17
02/17/14 14:29:53 SetBestChain: new best=c1809e7b3b151d8132ae  height=598232  trust=984576867657  date=02/17/14 14:29:43
02/17/14 14:30:10 SetBestChain: new best=d6babce9a9ef02306eff  height=598233  trust=984596196670  date=02/17/14 14:30:24
02/17/14 14:30:34 SetBestChain: new best=060bdd0d0c702b2d8e90  height=598234  trust=984615495150  date=02/17/14 14:30:22
02/17/14 14:30:39 SetBestChain: new best=21fc4ac8e402869386f3  height=598235  trust=984634883470  date=02/17/14 14:30:29
02/17/14 14:30:51 SetBestChain: new best=a5fbeb04760a8382d162  height=598236  trust=984654336622  date=02/17/14 14:30:46
02/17/14 14:31:14 SetBestChain: new best=61d9a2267edb4dff595c  height=598237  trust=984673826671  date=02/17/14 14:31:02
02/17/14 14:31:37 SetBestChain: new best=aceec4018da3bc0df28d  height=598238  trust=984693356531  date=02/17/14 14:31:25
02/17/14 14:32:33 SetBestChain: new best=286647c97baeebf4aff5  height=598239  trust=984712906184  date=02/17/14 14:32:22
02/17/14 14:32:52 SetBestChain: new best=000000001e19ae2db9e2  height=598240  trust=984712931400  date=02/17/14 14:32:37
02/17/14 14:32:52 SetBestChain: new best=743f17c3a1f7e91eb1bf  height=598240  trust=984732380008  date=02/17/14 14:32:41
02/17/14 14:32:54 SetBestChain: new best=000000001e19ae2db9e2  height=598240  trust=984712931400  date=02/17/14 14:32:37
02/17/14 14:33:27 SetBestChain: new best=663f96d915952f51b66c  height=598241  trust=984732405224  date=02/17/14 14:33:16
02/17/14 14:33:59 SetBestChain: new best=0000000007acff511657  height=598242  trust=984732429278  date=02/17/14 14:33:26
02/17/14 14:34:51 SetBestChain: new best=00000000159dc97180aa  height=598243  trust=984732453266  date=02/17/14 14:34:01
02/17/14 14:35:04 SetBestChain: new best=000000001869be327c58  height=598244  trust=984732477236  date=02/17/14 14:34:50
02/17/14 14:35:17 SetBestChain: new best=0000000022cdfd66ea4f  height=598245  trust=984732501141  date=02/17/14 14:35:04
02/17/14 14:35:50 SetBestChain: new best=00000000071e02ca20be  height=598246  trust=984732525101  date=02/17/14 14:35:20
02/17/14 14:35:57 SetBestChain: new best=a3d4f8c19ca9fa4f750f  height=598247  trust=984751931900  date=02/17/14 14:35:48
02/17/14 14:36:22 SetBestChain: new best=00000000069b12be6157  height=598248  trust=984751956013  date=02/17/14 14:35:57

The average is WAY less than 30 seconds.

Even more interesting. What is this? An attack?

If those blocks make it to the regular chain, shouldn't the pools show a far less avg. time per block statistics? And a higher net hashrate? I'm confused. Smiley

WOW this is insane someone is mining the shit out of hobo.

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February 17, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
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How often does difficulty re-target for this coin? 

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February 17, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
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How often does difficulty re-target for this coin? 

I think every block.
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February 17, 2014, 03:32:52 PM
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How often does difficulty re-target for this coin? 

Good question, that would interest me also. Could'n find any facts on that.
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February 17, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
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https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/5502-strange-diffnethash/
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February 17, 2014, 03:39:11 PM
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That makes sense now.

Do we have HOBO rich list somewhere?


Would be interesting to see the distribution.
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February 17, 2014, 03:53:09 PM
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Thanks for that.

I would also be interested in seeing what the largest amount is that's being held at one address.  Smiley

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February 17, 2014, 04:02:45 PM
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Thanks for that.

I would also be interested in seeing what the largest amount is that's being held at one address.  Smiley

The hashrate dropped to 227

If it wasn't for this POS lol

We would of had a great mining going.

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February 17, 2014, 04:09:41 PM
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Dam been getting so little HBN a day compared to a couple of weeks ago. I guess that is what happens when the price go's a little bit wild!

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February 17, 2014, 04:12:27 PM
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at current 215 mh/s diff should've been about 1.5 (currently @ 6.2) - 2 min time per block vs 30s target
concerned about how long it's going to take for PoW diff to settle down
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February 17, 2014, 04:17:07 PM
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at current 215 mh/s diff should've been about 1.5 (currently at 6.2) - 2 min time per block vs 30s target
concerned about how long it's going to take for PoW diff to settle down

I wish I knew. Anyways i guess it is cheaper to buy this coin after all. Mine something else instead.
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February 17, 2014, 04:32:03 PM
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looks like miners are withdrawing till PoW diff issue is sorted
time per block now 2 min 15s and hashrate dropped to 195 mh/s
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February 17, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
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looks like miners are withdrawing till PoW diff issue is sorted
time per block now 2 min 15s and hashrate dropped to 195 mh/s

From looking at the chain it looks like a bunch of PoS blocks are being generated. Some only ten seconds apart.  My guess is that there is a large amount trying to stake right now so it is crowding out PoW. 

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