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I've never seen legitimate companies act the way these fools do.
that makes two of us. it's unreal how unprofessional these clowns are.
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February 22, 2014, 04:08:36 AM Last edit: February 22, 2014, 05:58:57 AM by sirminesalot |
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I've never seen legitimate companies act the way these fools do.
that makes two of us. it's unreal how unprofessional these clowns are. I like how we are all referring to these guys as AMT - like they are some legitimate business with numerous employees. EVERYTHING POINTS TO THIS AS A 2 MAN OPERATION. Just because they have some part time help or friends, the person financially accountable for this debacle is the founder of AMT (JOSHUA ZIPKIN). I like how he'd downplayed his role/involvement with AMT in this thread (look back). They have some rented office space in Pensylvania. Big fucking deal. Anyone can rent out some office space in an attempt to prove they are legitimate. So what if AMT goes under? Well, no need to worry! They are incorporated and likely have limited liability! AMT is composed of 2 people: JOSHUA ZIPKIN(FOUNDER / THREAD POSTER) http://www.crunchbase.com/person/joshua-zipkinhttp://vk.com/joshzipkinand JIM BROWN(TECHNICAL SUPPORT PHONE/EMAIL BITCH) From all the videos we've seen, it's been Joshua Zipkin representing AMT - including this thread, he has been posting here as AMT_MINERS. I advise everyone to keep emails exchanged with these guys and even copy them to this thread so everyone can see. These guys need to be held accountable for their actions (or inaction I should say). At the end of the day, Joshua can fly back to Bulgaria with everyone's money while we sit here in the U.S waiting for miners to arrive. Read the past posts in the thread started by Augusto Croppo, there is a lot of aspects of their business that is shady. Thanks for digging into this for us Augusto - you are an asset to this community. Note the e-mail address attached to the paypal account I sent payment to way back..... Thank you for this information. Josh Zipkin ( joshua.zipkin@gmail.com) appears to be the person operating the bogus corporation "Advanced Mining Technologies". A quick Google search shows that there are several Internet domains registered with the alleged email address: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22joshua.zipkin%40gmail.com%22newemotionsbg.com tolkova.com acheatingwife.com decisiondental.com financinginvestments.com musicfunders.com rockstarfunding.com sexycourses.com theinvestmentpitch.com vibradors.com adhdstudy.info online-cash.us thedealfair.com buycustomertestimonials.com dmdadvertising.com studentgrouping.com findyourcars.com collegeconect.com ebasijivota.com empiremodelling.com dentalbenefitsinsurance.info bitcoinmining.info One of the Internet domains was registered with an address from Bulgaria: http://whois.stsoftware.biz/newemotionsbg-com.htmAdministrative Contact: New emotions ltd joshua zipkin ( joshua.zipkin@gmail.com) +359.359878867577 Fax: 607 Oak Shade ave. Sofia, Bulgaria 1404 BG This is Joshua Zipkin Facebook and LinkedIn profiles: https://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkinhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/joshua-zipkin-%E0%AE%83/4/553/329The person in the above profiles's photos matches the person appearing in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWBgz0Mbx20Notice that both profiles indicates that his is from Pennsylvania, however both profiles shows that he could be living at three different places: Beware!People behind this suspicious scheme is misrepresenting an already registered legal entity in USA know as "ADVANCED MINING TECHNOLOGY, INC.": https://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?868855This legal entity have no relationship whatsoever with the Internet page http://www.advancedminers.com/ which was registered on 10 Sep 2013: Here is the source of an email sent by the advancedminers.com domain after an order is placed and wire transfer is required to complete the sale: Received: from hst-225-210.medicom.bg ([ 84.238.225.210]:50616 helo=[192.168.0.102]) by adv.advancedminers.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from < atrusten@advancedminers.com>) id 1Vt1dp-00055P-Vp for XXXX@XXXX.com; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:53:23 -0600 Message-ID: < 52B0B9BA.8010708@advancedminers.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:53:14 -0500 From: Alyssa Trusten < atrusten@advancedminers.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XXXX@XXXX.comSubject: Your AMT Order #1088 Wire Information References: < 52B0B89F.9000302@advancedminers.com> In-Reply-To: < 52B0B89F.9000302@advancedminers.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: < 52B0B89F.9000302@advancedminers.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040301040303000109080508" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - adv.advancedminers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - dispostable.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - advancedminers.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: adv.advancedminers.com: authenticated_id: atrusten@advancedminers.comX-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040301040303000109080508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi XXXXX, I am sending you the wire information for order No 1088. You will find it in the attached file. After your payment is confirmed we'll issue you a paid invoice for your coin miner in full detail. Remember to put your order number in the payment details section of the wire as well. Also if you can manage, please send a scan of the wire receipt or email verification of the wire just for organizational purposes and so that we can give accounting a heads up that your payment is on its way. Kind Regards, -- Alyssa Trusten AMT Billing Dep. 1254 W. Chester Pike, Havertown, PA, 19083 1855-866-6463 atrusten@Advancedminers.comThe IP address highlighted above is assigned to Bulgaria: Moreover, two forum participants already presented evidence which indicated that people misrepresenting the "ADVANCED MINING TECHNOLOGY, INC." is operating from Bulgaria: Ok... will do that, one minute, I have to open an find out how to post an image
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February 22, 2014, 06:34:39 AM |
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Did that refund check ever clear?
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I'll go a step further. Read and re-read the first post: We believe as long as we bring our Miners to market faster and better than most we will develop our brand as a credible, long lasting and hopefully competitive player in the Cryptocurrency mining hardware market. Mining companies have had a control on this market which intern creates a monopoly. It transfers an unfair advantage to the Miner, who after all is the companies consumer. Taking that into account, if we become one of the few companies to take orders and deliver on time and provide decent customer service during the sales process, that alone is worth more in this industry than anything else. Cryptocurrency is not going away anytime soon, and buyer trust will be worth more in the long run. Notice anything wrong with that? I do. "intern"? I think they mean "in turn". The whole post looks like it was written by a 7th grader. Equally concerning... In the moment we're not in the office, we're half way around the world working with a great design team on a few new models. Perhaps he means "at the moment"? Maybe English isn't the original poster's strong suit; maybe English is his second language. Fine, point taken, but.... 3rd floor eh? The internets think this building only has two stories:http://www.showcase.com/property/1254-West-Chester-Pike/Havertown/Pennsylvania/295724So what gives? Another scam? If somebody gave me the money to blow it anywhere I wanted, because of this one post only, AMT wouldn't even be on the list. Yet, people ordered! The only saving grace is that this isn't a self-moderated thread like Black Arrow's, where I've had ~250 posts deleted showing a helluva lot more about them and their three main resellers perpetuating a scam.
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February 22, 2014, 06:44:43 AM |
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February 22, 2014, 06:59:44 AM |
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Thanks for your insight, but because some of the photographs were taken in that location in Bulgaria - doesn't necessarily tie the owners of AMT to that particular place. It might be better time spent looking further into data on ownership of AMT and collecting more information on both Joshua Zipkin and "Jim Brown". And just to mention this, but didn't anyone find it ODD that they would offer 5 to 10% off hardware purchases in exchange for 'fighting trolls' in this thread. Seems like a ridiculous thing for a legitimate company to do. This was just one of MANY warning signs. I am still hopeful they ship the machines out and not turn this into a major fraud.
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February 22, 2014, 07:19:05 AM |
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http://www.crunchbase.com/person/joshua-zipkinJoshua Zipkin
Prior to TheDealFair, Joshua worked in the Balkan markets where he established and created some of the first daily deal sites in the region. Since then, he and his team have focussed primarily on TheDealFair.com, while also developing several original eCommerce based services, such as a unique microjob site, an apartment letting site, and diversified mobile apps. He is the founder of Setupstarters, a web site development company with services that range from social media marketing consultation, to outsourced BPO. He attended PennState University where he majored in International Economics. Coming from Phildelphia, and having lived in Europe, he considers himself to be an entrepreneur of the world, constantly mixing mentalities with unique ideas, to solve the problems of today’s industry leading sites. Personal Quote: “I’m A Traveler From West To East”
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February 22, 2014, 07:22:40 AM |
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Hi, all The video and photos in question were made in Technobit's office . The google maps data is according to the closest GSM network cell and the mistake is about 1 km . This was the time AMT were ordering Bitfury based boards from us. Just for your info. @ the present moment they have their own design for Coin craft based miners AFAIK Best Martin
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February 22, 2014, 07:29:47 AM |
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http://www.crunchbase.com/person/joshua-zipkinJoshua Zipkin
Prior to TheDealFair, Joshua worked in the Balkan markets where he established and created some of the first daily deal sites in the region. Since then, he and his team have focussed primarily on TheDealFair.com, while also developing several original eCommerce based services, such as a unique microjob site, an apartment letting site, and diversified mobile apps. He is the founder of Setupstarters, a web site development company with services that range from social media marketing consultation, to outsourced BPO. He attended PennState University where he majored in International Economics. Coming from Phildelphia, and having lived in Europe, he considers himself to be an entrepreneur of the world, constantly mixing mentalities with unique ideas, to solve the problems of today’s industry leading sites. Personal Quote: “I’m A Traveler From West To East” All that seems to show is that there is legitimate reasons to have stuff coming from Bulgaria as well as PA. Not sticking up for the guy, but I know I'd not mind working out of multiple parts of the world personally. It certainly explains his PA and bulgarian presence. On the white pages website there are two phone numbers listed for josh zipkin in PA area, I'll not be calling but they are there for the taking. Don't know how outdated the info might me though.
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February 22, 2014, 07:34:43 AM |
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Hi, all The video and photos in question were made in Technobit's office . The google maps data is according to the closest GSM network cell and the mistake is about 1 km . This was the time AMT were ordering Bitfury based boards from us. Just for your info. @ the present moment they have their own design for Coin craft based miners AFAIK Best Martin Perhaps just a coincidence, but you're the sixth person I've found that was registered on, or one day before or one day after my birthday, March 4th (hence the strong mental note), while conducting my Black Arrow research. I hope that you'll be able to shed some light on this matter if the worst comes to pass, bud. Thank you kindly for the relative info. ~Bruno Kucinskas
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Bruno, you're slipping. Martin's info was already in the thread, early on. The miner I was sent for evaluation was a technobit HEX16B based design. Basically just repackaged. This is old news.
AMT's problem is with the front of the house, not so much the equipment. Their sources have been verified. Bitmine has confirmed several times that AMT is their partner. I suspect quite a bit of their delays had to do with that, but they haven't been real forthright about it.
The only thing new in Martin's post was confirmation that AMT was designing their own hashing board, rather than using the HEX series again. Which kills one of my theories, as I had posited that they had licensed the Technobit design.
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February 22, 2014, 08:29:49 AM |
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I dont believe for a second AMT would be producing their own design PCB. Nothing Ive seen so far suggests they have the capability, and they would be the only bitcoin asic vendor ever to be shipping custom miners without ever even posting a picture of their original PCB at any point during development.
I too expected them to licence technobit design. If its not technobit, it will be Bitmine's design, possibly even Bitmine's production.
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February 22, 2014, 10:34:35 AM Last edit: February 22, 2014, 12:38:38 PM by ISAWHIM |
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This is one reason I tried to avoid posting my opinions here because that is all they are. This is a public forum, the point is to post opinions... You would have not been doing anything wrong, by posting your thoughts. (As long as they were not slanderous or harmful in nature.) (Hell, If I was held accountable for my thoughts and opinions... {Which I might add, change by the minute}... I fear to think of the repercussions they would return.) Clenell, what you are doing, in my opinion, seems slanderous and extortion/blackmale in nature. Just saying... I think you should really step back a second, take a few breaths, and focus on non-public attacks. (To a situation that you clearly admit, "you have no information about, due to lack of updates." Thus, all your actions are premature and speculative paranoia and assumptions. That will not bode well in any defense, legally or from a civil perspective. There are better ways to do things, this is not one of the better ways.) P.S. Phinnaeus Gage, you are an idiot... Web-hosts are world-wide. Mail-servers are world-wide. IP's are no longer "limited" to countries. They stopped selling blocks years ago, and most have been resold to other locations, irrelevant to the original "assigned blocks". (Not to mention IPV4->IPV6 conversion services, which don't relay the origins of IPV6 addresses from the conversion. They relay the converting node IP.) Stop playing detective. You are not a detective. There is not only one Joshua Zipkin in the world, I am sure that one is annoyed at you posting his information. There are over 14 people with my same exact "full name", that I have no relationship with. (Though I do look like one of them, a little.) Having a web-host, and thus, being associated with multiple domains, hosted on a shared-server, is what 80% of the current web-sites do. My own websites are shared among over 3000 others, that I have no direct or indirect ties to. (Seems I am in Europe too... Yet, amazingly I live in the USA Florida, and the actual server is located in USA Texas. OMG world-wide-web howz-it werk? Who-knew!) Go back to your corner with your ghetto sleuthing ability.
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February 22, 2014, 11:38:36 AM |
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The only thing new in Martin's post was confirmation that AMT was designing their own hashing board, rather than using the HEX series again. Which kills one of my theories, as I had posited that they had licensed the Technobit design.
Yes.... that is a very interesting revelation. Question though, are they using Bitmine.ch design? Is this why both Bitmine.ch and AMT are delayed?
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The only thing new in Martin's post was confirmation that AMT was designing their own hashing board, rather than using the HEX series again. Which kills one of my theories, as I had posited that they had licensed the Technobit design.
Yes.... that is a very interesting revelation. Question though, are they using Bitmine.ch design? Is this why both Bitmine.ch and AMT are delayed? every company making miners is delayed. better question. Who is on-time?
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February 22, 2014, 02:35:02 PM Last edit: February 22, 2014, 03:00:52 PM by Augusto Croppo |
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Stop playing detective. You are not a detective. There is not only one Joshua Zipkin in the world, I am sure that one is annoyed at you posting his information. There are over 14 people with my same exact "full name", that I have no relationship with. (Though I do look like one of them, a little.) Having a web-host, and thus, being associated with multiple domains, hosted on a shared-server, is what 80% of the current web-sites do. My own websites are shared among over 3000 others, that I have no direct or indirect ties to. (Seems I am in Europe too... Yet, amazingly I live in the USA Florida, and the actual server is located in USA Texas. OMG world-wide-web howz-it werk? Who-knew!) Go back to your corner with your ghetto sleuthing ability.
Bruno is better than a detective when he is involved in cyber investigation. People like you have to slander him because your ignorance do not allow you to understand how investigation works. I have been working with Bruno before and he never disappointed me with the evidence collected. You should at least have some respect for him since he is one of the oldest participants in this forum and he never engaged in harmful activates against this community.
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February 22, 2014, 02:43:35 PM Last edit: February 22, 2014, 07:37:10 PM by clenell |
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None of this had to happen. Worries could have been squashed if AMT just gave some updates. I had to go to extremes to get these guys to answer me and then when i get a response they come on this board and lie about me? Well, that just confirms for me what I all ready knew - these guys are extremely unprofessional at best and thieves at worst. I am not an AMT lapdog plain and simple. I will not sit quiet and be told this is par for the course. AMT's definition of harassment is what other companies call basic customer service. I'm not in the business of giving thousands of dollars to people and then being ignored. I don't care what the supposed industry standard is or what anyone else does for that matter. AMT is their own worst enemy. I have made it very clear to AMT... they deliver my miner as order #610 or they refund my money. Plain and simple. All I am requesting is they keep their word. I am not asking for special treatment. If they do not do this I will pursue every means I can as a consumer to make them wish they had. If they think things are bad now they are in for a surprise. I have given them my word I will remove every negative comment I've made in regards to AMT if they JUST DO WHAT THEY PROMISED. The problem is... I am asking these guys to be sensible. To date AMT has not displayed any professionalism. That begs the question why am I even bothering to ask this of them now? Well, some people don't change until they have the screws put to them. I am hoping cooler heads prevail and Josh steps in. If he doesn't matters are only going to get worse for both parties. AMT wont be the first mining company taken to court.
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February 22, 2014, 07:21:36 PM Last edit: February 22, 2014, 07:41:16 PM by sirminesalot |
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This is one reason I tried to avoid posting my opinions here because that is all they are. This is a public forum, the point is to post opinions... You would have not been doing anything wrong, by posting your thoughts. (As long as they were not slanderous or harmful in nature.) (Hell, If I was held accountable for my thoughts and opinions... {Which I might add, change by the minute}... I fear to think of the repercussions they would return.) Clenell, what you are doing, in my opinion, seems slanderous and extortion/blackmale in nature. Just saying... I think you should really step back a second, take a few breaths, and focus on non-public attacks. (To a situation that you clearly admit, "you have no information about, due to lack of updates." Thus, all your actions are premature and speculative paranoia and assumptions. That will not bode well in any defense, legally or from a civil perspective. There are better ways to do things, this is not one of the better ways.) P.S. Phinnaeus Gage, you are an idiot... Web-hosts are world-wide. Mail-servers are world-wide. IP's are no longer "limited" to countries. They stopped selling blocks years ago, and most have been resold to other locations, irrelevant to the original "assigned blocks". (Not to mention IPV4->IPV6 conversion services, which don't relay the origins of IPV6 addresses from the conversion. They relay the converting node IP.) Stop playing detective. You are not a detective. There is not only one Joshua Zipkin in the world, I am sure that one is annoyed at you posting his information. There are over 14 people with my same exact "full name", that I have no relationship with. (Though I do look like one of them, a little.) Having a web-host, and thus, being associated with multiple domains, hosted on a shared-server, is what 80% of the current web-sites do. My own websites are shared among over 3000 others, that I have no direct or indirect ties to. (Seems I am in Europe too... Yet, amazingly I live in the USA Florida, and the actual server is located in USA Texas. OMG world-wide-web howz-it werk? Who-knew!) Go back to your corner with your ghetto sleuthing ability. ISAWHIM - YOU are the idiot. You know I wanted to like you, because in some aspects you seem like an intelligent guy - but the more I read coming from you, the more it's obvious you're just an AMT sympathizer - and for no good reason too. You would defend AMT while they were smothering you to death, you're that much of a shill. Pull your head out of your ass and realize that guys like Augusto, Bruno, and I have absolutely nothing to gain by bringing up these facts about AMT. We are concerned about our own investments as well as the communities'. Unfortunately, it's guys like you that make me think "you know, I hope AMT is a scam because I wouldn't mind seeing that kiss ass ISAWHIM get ripped off" - because you deserve it for how you've gone about defending AMT for no good reason. Same goes for you FRICTIONLESSCOIN: You want everyone with concerns about AMT's dodgy business, to shutup and hope for the best: and why? Because you want to sell your miners as soon as you get them! Every post of yours includes details on how people should 'hit you up to buy your miner'. If you had such faith in AMT, you wouldn't be trying to sell your spots preemptively and recoup your funds. I believe you are just trying to break even at this point, and you don't care what the real deal is. Your attempts to get the community to further trust AMT isn't based on the communities' best interest, but your own. There is no question that the Joshua Zipkin (man in the pictures) is the same guy who is running AMT. I could give a shit whether he wants his photo posted up all over these forums, he should of thought of that before starting AMT and conducting business the way he has. Josh made this very personal when he started posting peoples' real names in this thread as a bully tactic. I will make it a personal mission to fuck this guys life up if he screws anyone out of their miners or $. I don't give a shit where he goes or what he does, I will post his ugly ass all over the internet and make him known to the world as the piece of shit scumbag thief that he is. Once again: Augusto, bruno, puppet, RickJames, Biomech, etc. - anyone that has reasonably questioned these fishy facts about AMT - thank you for bringing common sense to the table and being REAL about things. The rest of you guys that have been overly-positive towards AMT for your discount, or hopes that it will get you your miner faster - FUCK OFF. The community doesn't need deluded people like you.
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February 22, 2014, 07:35:31 PM |
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The only thing new in Martin's post was confirmation that AMT was designing their own hashing board, rather than using the HEX series again. Which kills one of my theories, as I had posited that they had licensed the Technobit design.
Yes.... that is a very interesting revelation. Question though, are they using Bitmine.ch design? Is this why both Bitmine.ch and AMT are delayed? every company making miners is delayed. better question. Who is on-time? Bitmain
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Stop playing detective. You are not a detective. There is not only one Joshua Zipkin in the world, I am sure that one is annoyed at you posting his information. There are over 14 people with my same exact "full name", that I have no relationship with. (Though I do look like one of them, a little.) Having a web-host, and thus, being associated with multiple domains, hosted on a shared-server, is what 80% of the current web-sites do. My own websites are shared among over 3000 others, that I have no direct or indirect ties to. (Seems I am in Europe too... Yet, amazingly I live in the USA Florida, and the actual server is located in USA Texas. OMG world-wide-web howz-it werk? Who-knew!) Go back to your corner with your ghetto sleuthing ability.
Bruno is better than a detective when he is involved in cyber investigation. People like you have to slander him because your ignorance do not allow you to understand how investigation works. I have been working with Bruno before and he never disappointed me with the evidence collected. You should at least have some respect for him since he is one of the oldest participants in this forum and he never engaged in harmful activates against this community. Bruno's problem is he presents before collating. He's good at what he does, but he needs a middleman. You, too.
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