Official Thread: AMT

[Flying Hellfish]

bASIC, BFL, HF and now AMT, God love the good old US of A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWq2Yrfz0I

Wrong
I was watching  bASIC thread closely. As long as i can say bASIC lost a lot of money but they did not lie for more than a week of delays and after that little by little they have refunded 100% of money taken. I do not have comments about HF, BUT I DO COMPLETELY AGREE that AMT !EQUALS BFL

That scammy c*** ONLY got lucky on a big spike in BTC price as I AM SURE you remember.  That being said as I recall refunds didn't actually start until the rise in price.  If coin price hadn't risen 10 fold bASIC would not have been able to refund everyone period.  He got lucky, that doesn't mean he wasn't a scamming lying piece of shit like the rest IMO.

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[loshia]

bASIC, BFL, HF and now AMT, God love the good old US of A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWq2Yrfz0I

Wrong
I was watching  bASIC thread closely. As long as i can say bASIC lost a lot of money but they did not lie for more than a week of delays and after that little by little they have refunded 100% of money taken. I do not have comments about HF, BUT I DO COMPLETELY AGREE that AMT !EQUALS BFL

That scammy c*** ONLY got lucky on a big spike in BTC price as I AM SURE you remember.  That being said as I recall refunds didn't actually start until the rise in price.  If coin price hadn't risen 10 fold bASIC would not have been able to refund everyone period.  He got lucky, that doesn't mean he wasn't a scamming lying piece of shit like the rest IMO.

Probably but he was brave enough to admit that US marketing skills are not enough to make ASIC after two week of delays only However if bASIC was following BFL model with constant lies they would be able to deliver something after 5 months or so Famous Monarch thread or BFL fucks us over again
Besides buzdave was bASIC spoksman buy that time which is some sort of proof that they were trying to do something. But they were fucked by Chinese brothers as always
"That scammy c*** ONLY" as you called him just did not have enough nervs to stand the pressure and to continue with lies that is all
However when  buzdave  moved to bitfry and real ENGINEERING team he became a millionaire just for half year. That is the major difference between marketing and engineering. To be a millionaire marketing skills are needed for sure but without good engineers nothing happens in bitcoin world
What about AMT? if they failed i am pretty sure that no matter of BTC spikes no one will see a single cent of refunds. Besides they do have Chips for 3 months (designed by innosilicon) and PCB designs(Bitmine most probably) including their own 4 chip famous design - proved to be lie and not working;D They need just to solve 2+2=4. But even that simple math is far more ahead of their top engineering and manufacturing skills
But their marketing and lying skills are a class No doubt
PS: after typing all that i am wandering if i shall start that pre order shit it seems very easy. The only thing you need is to be a good lair that is all
Oh i forgot and BFL Sony lawyers also

[fryarminer]

We need a company that produces ASIC, but doesn't take preorders. That's the problem here. There's an old philosophical principle: You cannot give what you haven't got.
Avalon does that now. And I respect them for that.

[otep]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

[FrictionlessCoin]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

Small claims court.   No lawyer required.  Here are the details:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg5557413#msg5557413

[mdiggy]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

[otep]

looking at the form which shows the people who have pre-ordered the 1.2th/s systems.  seem to have not received them. its only the 1.2th/s.   

[otep]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

this is the email which was sent on Oct. 21. 2013

Your AMT Bitcoin Miners order from October 8, 2013 is complete

wtf i call john the guy working there.  he told me when the chips come in he would mail it out.  then i have tried to call and email.  just a few days ago i got and email.



Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa

[loshia]

looking at the form which shows the people who have pre-ordered the 1.2th/s systems.  seem to have not received them. its only the 1.2th/s.  

its only the 1.2th/s.  - Are you serious This is the ONLY problem here otherwise all is cool
otep as all know here i work for amt Do you supposed to be my knew colleague which i have never met?

[athgaurd]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

this is the email which was sent on Oct. 21. 2013

Your AMT Bitcoin Miners order from October 8, 2013 is complete

wtf i call john the guy working there.  he told me when the chips come in he would mail it out.  then i have tried to call and email.  just a few days ago i got and email.



Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa

so.. what is Alyssa's email?

[otep]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

this is the email which was sent on Oct. 21. 2013

Your AMT Bitcoin Miners order from October 8, 2013 is complete

wtf i call john the guy working there.  he told me when the chips come in he would mail it out.  then i have tried to call and email.  just a few days ago i got and email.



Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa

so.. what is Alyssa's email?

this is the email on file
Advanced Mining Technologies <sales@advancedminers.com>

[sirminesalot]

Small claims court information:

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-claims-book/chapter9-2.html

PA has a $12,000 monetary limit in small claims court, meaning that is the maximum you can be awarded if you win. This leaves anyone that has pre-ordered more than 2 miners, out of luck.

[FrictionlessCoin]

Bitmine.ch 1 THs .... sold for $7,200 on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITCOIN-MINER-1TH-MINING-RIG-1TH-S-COINCRAFT-A1-28NM-ASIC-CHIP-1000GH-S-/310880749188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4861efc684#ht_2380wt_1064

[sirminesalot]

I'm waiting 48 hours before I proceed with legal action. It's the least I can do.

Keep us posted!  

I have requested a refund.  

If my request is not honored,  I'm going to small claims court.  No lawyer required.  I doubt they want to spend their time battling out in small claims court with every customer.

I hate to say it, but it sounds like you have WAY too much faith in the system.

You should go back a few pages and read about AMT's business licensing (or lack thereof): I have a feeling it might be hard to nail these guys down, as their locations, business registrations, people involved --- it's just a long complicated rabbit hole.

We need to act soon. By the time everyone gets their shit together, I have a feeling that Joshua Zipkin will be back in Bulgaria (if he's not ALREADY there) with the money. Then what will we do? Have him extradited to the U.S?

[wickedgoodtrader]

What a shocker. For mother fucking sakes, it is beyond me how fucking stupid people can be. I'm sure a crew of geniuses who bought into this shit will be able to figure out how to get their money back.

[Biomech]

Small claims court information:

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-claims-book/chapter9-2.html

PA has a $12,000 monetary limit in small claims court, meaning that is the maximum you can be awarded if you win. This leaves anyone that has pre-ordered more than 2 miners, out of luck.

Only for small claims. Not for civil or criminal complaints in regular court.

[mdiggy]

Just got an email from Jim. They've been shipping and will be posting some pictures on the news section of their website this weekend. Let's all take a minute and calm down.

[ISAWHIM]

Don't forget, a few purchases are from guys working for the government.

This will not go good for AMT if those guys get burned. (Not that I think they will.)

I, myself, do not work for the government. However, both my parents do. One for the Navy, one for the IRS. Both have also worked for the US-Postal service at times. (Ok, the postal-service is not a horribly strong entity, but it is protected/run by the federal government.)

This will be an interesting few weeks ahead.

Remember, they have been operating for years from the same location. I am sure that if something was honestly askew, they would have been busted by now. Scammers usually don't operate from the same location for years. They move around, to avoid capture. They usually don't dig down and root themselves to one location, for easy capture.

Bitmine.ch (Coincraft) is having similar design issues. That too, is also curbing my advancement on moving forward for a refund. I made a purchase to get a machine. If I wanted to just hold my coins, I would have just held them. We all would have.

If I were them, I would give the refunds, just because the people buying machines now, are buying 1.2THs machines, without the bonus-boards. They would be saving themselves from having to throw bonus-boards into your orders, and buying more time to build that machine. Since the new-order that would be your actual refund, would be a lot-higher number in the list.

Not only that, but it gets our orders bumped-up on the list.

That's my business-outlook.

P.S. No need to figure-out how to make the extra 6th bonus board work in that one case... Just send us two cases with 3 modules each... Works for me! (Rather than 6 inside one case.) Also gets rid of your smaller PSU's that you have laying around. I'll still wait for the other design, if you have that coming. I'll take a 2.4THs unit with less modules, so it matches the 1.5THs bonus.

P.P.S. Sell upgrade modules separately. I'll Fill the missing spaces if you do that. Instant future sales!

P.P.P.S. Are you making sure there is an adequate +5v load on the PSUs? Without that, some PSUs can't regulate the +12v rail correctly. Might be the source of some of your power issues. (A 5W wire-wound resistor or just try using an old CD-Drive for a load on +5v. That will put a load on the +5v rail for the PSU. To test it.) If that is the issue, buy some 5v fans for cooling. 1A worth, instead of 12v fans. That or a 5v light for inside the case.

[loshia]

Just got an email from Jim. They've been shipping and will be posting some pictures on the news section of their website this weekend. Let's all take a minute and calm down.

That is said by Jim or by you

[FrictionlessCoin]

P.S. No need to figure-out how to make the extra 6th bonus board work in that one case... Just send us two cases with 3 modules each... Works for me! (Rather than 6 inside one case.) Also gets rid of your smaller PSU's that you have laying around. I'll still wait for the other design, if you have that coming. I'll take a 2.4THs unit with less modules, so it matches the 1.5THs bonus.

P.P.S. Sell upgrade modules separately. I'll Fill the missing spaces if you do that. Instant future sales!

Maybe they can give the bonus board and forget the case!  Do it the BitMine way!

The only saving grace at this time is that if they deliver by next week,  the units will fetch more than $6,000 on eBay.

If they don't ship this Month,  then consider a 50% loss on the original investment.