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July 25, 2014, 10:20:49 AM |
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Some may think that Alpha is busy with some important matters and that is why they don't have time to update on their forum. This is not true. They are monitoring the forum continuously. Post are being deleted very quickly. Like this one: http://imgur.com/APAHbng |
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Phorna
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July 25, 2014, 11:37:22 AM |
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If with all the luck in the world the chips have been made and are not being released by the foundry due to lack of funds, why have they not even shown that stage to everyone.
According to standard workflow & payments in this business sector, foundry has to receive 100% payment before they start the final production. So if this would be the case chips are not kept at the foundry but simply are not produced yet. |
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July 25, 2014, 11:47:04 AM |
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If with all the luck in the world the chips have been made and are not being released by the foundry due to lack of funds, why have they not even shown that stage to everyone.
According to standard workflow & payments in this business sector, foundry has to receive 100% payment before they start the final production. So if this would be the case chips are not kept at the foundry but simply are not produced yet. yes , so i hope that all these refund fudders are not screwing with my asic. having said that, i thought there would be an announcement today |
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July 25, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
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The really sad thing is reading the forum you have people there blissfully unaware, crowing out how transparent they have been, how their product will be the best on the market how other companies are all scam, seemingly unaware that the Chinese have flooded the market for months now with functional miners and are in the midst of rapidly dropping the price to near zero. Some of them over there are cheerfully muttering about wondering how will the packaging look like, what color will it be, how loud will it be. They don't get it, there is not even a chip made to run these things, let alone packing boxes to ship them out!
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July 25, 2014, 12:33:47 PM |
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If with all the luck in the world the chips have been made and are not being released by the foundry due to lack of funds, why have they not even shown that stage to everyone.
According to standard workflow & payments in this business sector, foundry has to receive 100% payment before they start the final production. So if this would be the case chips are not kept at the foundry but simply are not produced yet. That's it!  I was just doing some quick research on the Chinese operation Zeus Miner, first out the gate and met all their deadlines. While an incredibly crude device, you can touch it feel it switch it on and it does do something. Now according to the available information, they received their "packet of chips" on April 30th 2014 https://zeusminer.com/2014/04/30/progress-update-30042014/From that time to shipping out the door a finished product time was to May 20th 2014 https://zeusminer.com/2014/05/21/20140521/Call it 1 month and this is them working 24/7 to make it world. PLUS they had on hand stock piled the chassis and the PCB boards all lined up where all that needed to be done is add the chip. Where is Alpha-Tech's packet of chips as seen in the above link? It is the end of July now. If they do have their packets of chips, and they do have stock piles of chassis and PCB's best case scenario is end of August to exit their shipping door. Working 24/7 like the Chinese. Alas there is not even a sketch of a packet of chips, a drawing of a chassis, a cartoon of a PCB. Nothing. Nothing but nattering about credit card processors, deleting posts asking where are the chips, diddling around making the website nicer, all for nothing. A big fat zero. Nothing. |
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July 25, 2014, 12:35:32 PM |
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You know, it always bothered me that Dexcel 'cut ties' because of the 'bad news' being spread. All the bad news BFL and KNC got, and foundries had no issues working with them publicly.
Makes you wonder if the foundry cut ties with them for some other reason... lack of payment?
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July 25, 2014, 12:43:40 PM |
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You know, it always bothered me that Dexcel 'cut ties' because of the 'bad news' being spread. All the bad news BFL and KNC got, and foundries had no issues working with them publicly.
Makes you wonder if the foundry cut ties with them for some other reason... lack of payment?
Personally I think this was just more AT spin. |
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Nullu
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July 25, 2014, 01:14:17 PM |
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You know, it always bothered me that Dexcel 'cut ties' because of the 'bad news' being spread. All the bad news BFL and KNC got, and foundries had no issues working with them publicly.
Makes you wonder if the foundry cut ties with them for some other reason... lack of payment?
Dexcel are a manufacturer. Alpha-T played the Dexcel card to re-assure customers they were the real deal, and then due to poor communication by worried customers who had spent a lot of money, got harassed. So who's to blame here really? Alpha-T's lack of communication is appalling. This is also just what we know. There may have been other problems which Dexcel had with Alpha-T we aren't aware of. |
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July 25, 2014, 01:51:52 PM |
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Another day, another promise ( https://forum.alpha-t.net/index.php?topic=813.0 , Will Alpha inform customers if things go wrong ? ) Quote from: scutzi128 on Today at 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: forceflow on July 23, 2014, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: Fiaz Malik on July 23, 2014, 06:41:00 PM
Hey guys, sorry for the silence, it is quite a critical time where we want to be confident in anything we announce so as to avoid certain expectations as we have made mistakes in this in the past. I can tell you we should be releasing an update on shipping tomorrow.
We're all ears. Thanks for finally putting a firm date on the update.
So where was this update we were supposed to get yesterday?
Fiaz Pm'd me that it will be today
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July 25, 2014, 01:59:43 PM |
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No my friend, this is where you are wrong. The deal with Dexcel was to develop "somehting"
Dexcel Technologies are in partnership with AT hurray. But to develop what exactly? a 555 timer chip?!
The development of the 555 timer chip has finished and there was no intention to go to any foundry.
Scammers of the world come here and learn from the scummers.
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July 25, 2014, 02:02:02 PM |
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Haven´t you read Fiaz statement ?
"I can tell you we should be releasing an update on shipping tomorrow"
He didn´t say that he will write an update.
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bumface
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July 25, 2014, 07:03:18 PM |
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announcement please
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Phorna
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July 25, 2014, 07:21:17 PM |
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announcement please
Where? There is no announcement. Although Fiaz is busy as a hell deleting posts and writing some fake visitor posts on their forum. I think it is save to say that this is game over, that way or another. Neither they won't deliver at all or they deliver 3rd party manufactured, obsolete product in the distant future with no chance of ROI for their customers. |
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bumface
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July 25, 2014, 10:12:31 PM |
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announcement please
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vesperwillow
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July 25, 2014, 10:14:19 PM |
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announcement please
Why are you antsy all of a sudden? |
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bumface
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July 25, 2014, 10:14:55 PM |
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announcement please
Why are you antsy all of a sudden? i merely want what was promised,and moreso, i want to know the status of affairs. why is there a delay,when will we see pictures of hardware when will there be shipped |
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July 25, 2014, 11:22:08 PM |
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We are now well beyond giving the middle finger. They are now thumbing their noses at us. The real concern emanating from their very own forum is the more than one veiled threats about putting boots on the floor and going there to get some results. It seems such a dodgy neighborhood anyone of these truly upset people hinting at action might find a proxy for a few beers to throw a brick through a window.
It is inexplicable their silence. Other than at this stage a incredibly bizarre minds set that they have done nothing wrong and what ever might happen is God's Will?
How can one mentally sound possibly not feel anything for the people who have entrusted you with their life savings and you sit there doing and saying nothing. It is inconceivable on the modern world unless you are a psychopath. It is not one individual it is a collection of four peoples, the Akram family, Fiaz, and the pseudo Dutch man "Liroy".
It is all simply not getting into their skulls that what they are doing or better yet, not doing is plain and simply wrong.
Wars for generations reflect all of this between nations. Barbarians vs. not Barbarians. Common courtesy vs. savagery.
Somewhere some one's wires are crossed. And it is not those that have developed common courtesy. That is normal evolution.
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July 25, 2014, 11:27:41 PM |
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Cant wait for scrypt asics to take over and see the impact on the crypto world.
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July 25, 2014, 11:48:00 PM
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announcement please
Why are you antsy all of a sudden? I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of many of Fiaz's fake accounts. Either you realize the gravity of the issue at hand NOW or just shut the fuck up. Thank you. 69bulldozers, you should thank VesperWillow. He is one of the people most active in pulling the curtain over Alpha-T activities aside so that alpha-t customers get a better view of the stage. |
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