-- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World!

[Vlad2Vlad]

As late as I am in the game I think I got into bitcoin towards the end of the early adoption phase. I'd still consider it fairly early only because there's still only a small majority of the world and people using bitcoin, though that should change soon. I'd say we are heading to the middle (if we aren't already there) with the recent acceptances of bitcoin in the mainstream world and the upcoming etf that will skyrocket the price which will make it too late for anyone that hasn't put their foot in the crypto world to acquire cheap bitcoin.

I too got into Bitcoin very late.  After it hit $266.  And that too was a big reason I searched for Bitcoin 2.0 - that and Bitcoin didn't have the look and feel of a global currency [on any level].

But now I look around and see that way less than 1% are in Bitcoin, even now, so now I realize that I was an early(ish) adopter and that Bitcoin [and cryptos] are about to have their biggest BOOM ever.

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[Vlad2Vlad]

Another Shocker:


@Bit_John: Bitstamp: Unverified Bitcoin Accounts at Risk of Government Seizure http://t.co/ELl6PUuo9L via @coindesk

In 28 days Bitstamp is gonna shut down unverified accounts and possibly hand over all the info and Bitcoins to the govt.

Exactly the road map I pointed to last year.  That Bitcoin has ZERO anonymity and zero decentralization and people will be forced to identify their wallets and people will most likely get 1 wallet for life:  Life Wallet.

So where are all the idiots like Andreas and Roger Ver who swore this kind of thing could never and would never happen to Bitcoin.

Silent like the lying cowards they are cause by now they even realize the true purpose of the Bitcoin protocol and they have too much to lose by speaking out.

Like I've said many times:  Cash was the last [anonymous] bastion of freedom we [the serfs] had, and ironically, the masses are cheering the death of their own cash [freedom].

[iGotSpots]

Cash isn't the obstacle for large corporations. Available chips is more of an obstacle

[Vlad2Vlad]

Cash isn't the obstacle for large corporations. Available chips is more of an obstacle

Chips like microchips?

You mean like the kind from VeriChip?  If so that won't be an issue.  VeriChip has already been approved for human implants by the FDA and already have the scalability for multi billion chip manufacturing output and of course the logistics that comes with tracking 7 billion dumb animals.

Well, 7 billion minus 1 cause I'm a smart animal. lol

[iGotSpots]

Cash isn't the obstacle for large corporations. Available chips is more of an obstacle

Chips like microchips?

You mean like the kind from VeriChip?  If so that won't be an issue.  VeriChip has already been approved for human implants by the FDA and already have the scalability for multi billion chip manufacturing output and of course the logistics that comes with tracking 7 billion dumb animals.

Well, 7 billion minus 1 cause I'm a smart animal. lol

As in hashing chips. Sure they could put old stuff on but to successfully gain 51% (essentially solo) would be a MASSIVE hit to a lot of markets, not to mention the attention it would bring

[Vlad2Vlad]

As in hashing chips. Sure they could put old stuff on but to successfully gain 51% (essentially solo) would be a MASSIVE hit to a lot of markets, not to mention the attention it would bring

Look at CEX.io, they gained 51% in 6 months from inception [and now sit on the IXC board].  Discus Fish, another anonymous pool, is now bigger than CEX.io and they started about 6 months ago.

Imagine if you had billions of dollars - you really think they couldn't get 51% and store it in 2 or 3 different pools so nobody would know and then destroy Bitcoin if they wanted to?

There is massive hash power to be bought - Cointerra, Bitmain and others have huge miners for sale everyday now, in stock.  For rich powerful banks, corporations or governments it wouldn't even be a challenge to gain 51%.

And what would keep them from doing their own in-house chips so nobody would suspect anything?  If butterfly labs and other Mickey Mouse operators can ship a new chip in under 12 months then I'm certain they can do even better in half the time.

There is no chance they haven't done this - even if it's only to mine some BTC as a hedge.  I would wager a lot on the banks, governments and corporations owning massive anonymous pools like Discus Fish.  It's pocket change for them - a simple $500 million currency hedge against Bitcoin and cryptos until they execute their plan to take the whole thing over [if they haven't already].

That said, there is no such thing as an anonymous, decentralized, trustless payment system.

The entire concept of what Bitcoin is supposed to be is an absolute blatant lie and it's shocking to me how the entire planet eats it up [thanks to experts like clueless Andreas Antonopolous].

[iGotSpots]

I agree it is nowhere near anonymous and I believe educated people are starting to realize that

However, I think you vastly underestimate the amount of hardware that would need to be produced. Possible? Certainly, but highly unlikely. You would see the price of everything computer related go up. It's not a matter of manpower, but of actual resources needed to produce it

[iGotSpots]

My point is that it would be incredibly noticable, not impossible. I might have worded it funny

[Vlad2Vlad]

My point is that it would be incredibly noticable, not impossible. I might have worded it funny

I don't know enough about the cost and supply of ASICS so you may be right.

But when I look at what appears to be small-time operations getting 51% or close to it, in well under 12 months, I have to wonder who those anonymous pool owners might be.

I know for a fact banks got hardware quotes from ASICS manufacturers (BFL was one of them) about 1 year ago.

So if that happened 12 months ago then it's right around the time when some anonymous pools started getting huge.

[iGotSpots]

Could be, but it could work out well. They wouldn't throw millions of dollars into development if they had no plans to pump up the price and get to the ROI point faster

[Vlad2Vlad]

Could be, but it could work out well. They wouldn't throw millions of dollars into development if they had no plans to pump up the price and get to the ROI point faster

Absolutely.  They know the ETF is coming and they know Bitcoin is going mainstream so they just wanna make sure they're in total control.

It's just funny to see so many "experts" still lying about Bitcoin being decentralized and trustless.  lol


We should hit $10,000 within 3-6 months after the ETF is announced which should happen in the next 30-60 days.  At the very least, second market's BIT should be approved but I think the real deal, COIN, should also go green this year.

[KeyserSozeMC]

Could be, but it could work out well. They wouldn't throw millions of dollars into development if they had no plans to pump up the price and get to the ROI point faster

We should hit $10,000 within 3-6 months after the ETF is announced which should happen in the next 30-60 days. 

Can't wait

[iGotSpots]

Could be, but it could work out well. They wouldn't throw millions of dollars into development if they had no plans to pump up the price and get to the ROI point faster

Absolutely.  They know the ETF is coming and they know Bitcoin is going mainstream so they just wanna make sure they're in total control.

It's just funny to see so many "experts" still lying about Bitcoin being decentralized and trustless.  lol


We should hit $10,000 within 3-6 months after the ETF is announced which should happen in the next 30-60 days.  At the very least, second market's BIT should be approved but I think the real deal, COIN, should also go green this year.

It's very clear to those in the know that BTC is not anonymous, but that is good. Amonymous is bad in real world finance. Anyone that truly believes it is anonymous is in denial. At least there's one thing we've agreed on for the last year lol

[hdbuck]

how is iXCoin doing?

[Vlad2Vlad]

how is iXCoin doing?

Massive Million coin volume days.

And the price is going up daily and solid as a rock.  More stable than any other coin - even Bitcoin.

I expect huge investors to come in soon given IXC now has the liquids and if course, zero inflation rate is very attractive as well.

[hdbuck]

how is iXCoin doing?

Massive Million coin volume days.

And the price is going up daily and solid as a rock.  More stable than any other coin - even Bitcoin.

I expect huge investors to come in soon given IXC now has the liquids and if course, zero inflation rate is very attractive as well.

hum good.

you should definitely add some charts once in a while.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Interesting tidbit:

The most popular ETF ever, the gold ETF (GLD) launched on November ~14th, 2004.

And we all know bankers [and terrorists] love anniversaries [haha] so then I would expect at least BIT to launch by then if not COIN as well.

That gives us about 3 weeks to load up on Bitcoin [and alts].

Actually, insiders will hear about it a week or two early so the next crypto boom is imminent.  I actually said this last huge manipulated drop was done by insiders who already know the ETF has been approved.

And expect this next boom to be much bigger than the last one and more prolonged - for Bitcoin as well as for alts.  We should get a few alts with $1+ billion market caps by next year and many alts with over $100 million caps.

This will be the last and final chance to make millions of $$$ off literally just a few thousand dollars invested so don't be foolish and sell early like most people did last year.  The ETF will bring in billions of fresh cash in just the first couple months and that's just the beginning.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Gavin Andresen:  "I think everyone should switch to talking in bits."

Hahaha, too predictable.

Exactly like I said months ago:  They're gonna push bits into mainstream this coming year [after the ETF] cause Bitcoin's price will be too astronomical for the common man to even contemplate buying. 

However, paying $10,000+ for 1,000,000 bits all of a sudden looks like a sweet deal.  lol


So now I wonder where guys like Gavin, Andreas, Roger Ver, etc get their talking points from.  Cause someone like me shouldn't be able to predict so many future Bitcoin [and crypto] events if this were all just random [on the fly] planning.


You guys have very little time to buy 1,000,000 bits for under $400.  I just borrowed $3,500 and bought over 10,000,000 bits.  Sounds crazy to the people around me but next year it should [hopefully] all make a lot of sense; albeit, too late for these scared observers who still refuse to buy just one single Bitcoin. 

Sheep...they'll buy at $10,000 [and higher] and come back for more...

[publicjud]

You guys have very little time to buy 1,000,000 bits for under $400.  I just borrowed $3,500 and bought over 10,000,000 bits.  Sounds crazy to the people around me but next year it should [hopefully] all make a lot of sense; albeit, too late for these scared observers who still refuse to buy just one single Bitcoin.  

Sheep...they'll buy at $10,000 [and higher] and come back for more...

even more bits in Ixcoin...

Or was that you bailing out of Ixcoin last night?

[Vlad2Vlad]

even more bits in Ixcoin...

Or was that you bailing out of Ixcoin last night?

I'm done buying high and selling low.  haha

I just bought 7 Bitcoin's worth up to 18,000 sat; there's no way I'm selling unless I have to eat my socks.  lol


Edit:  Looking at the trading action on CEX.io it's someone manipulating the price to take out all the stops.  People are scared to lose their profits after a big run so they set stops.  Classic trading mistake. I never set stop loss orders cause I've seen for years how the price is gamed to steal your shares/coins.