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January 12, 2023, 04:24:57 PM
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main criteria is probably: is the gambling profitable on the long run and is he/she avoiding ruin?
this would be the first question to ask, in my opinion

if it's only for fun and not for money than we can change these criteria.
depend maybe if what king of gambling we are talking here,  if this is a Luck base then maybe talking it as profitable  isn't that good Idea as we knew that the bank/house always win against gamblers.
but if this is about sports betting in which one of the safest gambling area? then yeah the criteria must be if it is profitable or not.

yes, it will totally vary from kind to kind of gambling
and from style of person
people's preferences vary widely, not all gamblers are in it for the money, even though probably most of gamblers are in it for money, there are lots of people who do it for fun, or even to waste some money (consciously or subconsciously)

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January 12, 2023, 04:46:02 PM
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Not really sure if I have commented this topic before, but I'll take the 1st criteria to comment:

a good gambler never chase profit
Profit might be the first reason why people gamble, but a good gambler never attached to the profit, the most important thing in gambling is excitement and fun experience, having profit is just the bonus

If you think that good gambler never chase profit, means that all gamblers in this world is not good gamblers.
All gamblers are chasing profit, this is why it is called by gambling where gamblers risk their money for more money.
It is bullshit if gamblers are gambling just for fun and entertainment only, if they just want to catch the fun, they should not gamble with real money as they can use demo mode.
I would prefer to say that good gambler is not about what they chase, but more about how the chase it.


We may not understand it or know the reason but some gamblers waste money on entertainment regardless of the result. Maybe they are the people who don't even know where to spend their money. Yes, they also chase for profit and that's how they feel entertained. I agree that a good gambler knows how to chase profit responsibly and wisely. There are gamblers who chase their losses the wrong way which usually take them on the wrong track. 
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January 12, 2023, 05:06:15 PM
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Not really sure if I have commented this topic before, but I'll take the 1st criteria to comment:

a good gambler never chase profit
Profit might be the first reason why people gamble, but a good gambler never attached to the profit, the most important thing in gambling is excitement and fun experience, having profit is just the bonus

If you think that good gambler never chase profit, means that all gamblers in this world is not good gamblers.
All gamblers are chasing profit, this is why it is called by gambling where gamblers risk their money for more money.
It is bullshit if gamblers are gambling just for fun and entertainment only, if they just want to catch the fun, they should not gamble with real money as they can use demo mode.
I would prefer to say that good gambler is not about what they chase, but more about how the chase it.


We may not understand it or know the reason but some gamblers waste money on entertainment regardless of the result. Maybe they are the people who don't even know where to spend their money. Yes, they also chase for profit and that's how they feel entertained. I agree that a good gambler knows how to chase profit responsibly and wisely. There are gamblers who chase their losses the wrong way which usually take them on the wrong track. 

There are many reason why people engage in gambling and some of them is for entertainment only and wasting of money but the other hand there are many gamblers that they play it because they getting have fun once they are in casino betting and win. Also some gamblers play it because of they need a comfort when they lost and have a problem gambling is their medicine do better.

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January 12, 2023, 05:13:03 PM
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The qualities mentioned here are definitely the qualities of a good gambler should possess. But the sad thing is that a gambler cannot always possess such qualities in himself. As a result they have to face losses. If the new gamblers understand these things well and gamble after gaining knowledge, they can be relatively more successful. A few days ago, when there was no research on gambling but now due to the progress of this industry, various types of research have been started on it, so if anyone want, he will get a good idea of how a gambler can control himself.
The new gambler is too eager to win a lot of money but they do not learn about self-control and it will cost him more and more if he does not want to do it,
This would become an even bigger problem because the longer he could not control himself, the more he could develop a gambling addiction.
Every gambler must own self-control to avoid gambling losses and know when to stop.
There is much more that one needs to learn to become a good gambler but only a few become such gamblers.
For a new gambler, Emotion is usually very difficult to control. But if they start with even a little knowledge in the beginning of gambling then there will be some benefit. Otherwise, if addicted to gambling, he has to gain his experience after losing a lot. Such thoughts (greediness) of taking oneself to unique heights through gambling widen the scope of greed which should never be in favor of a gambler.

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January 12, 2023, 05:18:03 PM
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Not really sure if I have commented this topic before, but I'll take the 1st criteria to comment:

a good gambler never chase profit
Profit might be the first reason why people gamble, but a good gambler never attached to the profit, the most important thing in gambling is excitement and fun experience, having profit is just the bonus

If you think that good gambler never chase profit, means that all gamblers in this world is not good gamblers.
All gamblers are chasing profit, this is why it is called by gambling where gamblers risk their money for more money.
It is bullshit if gamblers are gambling just for fun and entertainment only, if they just want to catch the fun, they should not gamble with real money as they can use demo mode.
I would prefer to say that good gambler is not about what they chase, but more about how the chase it.


We may not understand it or know the reason but some gamblers waste money on entertainment regardless of the result. Maybe they are the people who don't even know where to spend their money. Yes, they also chase for profit and that's how they feel entertained. I agree that a good gambler knows how to chase profit responsibly and wisely. There are gamblers who chase their losses the wrong way which usually take them on the wrong track. 

There are many reason why people engage in gambling and some of them is for entertainment only and wasting of money but the other hand there are many gamblers that they play it because they getting have fun once they are in casino betting and win. Also some gamblers play it because of they need a comfort when they lost and have a problem gambling is their medicine do better.

Different people/gambler do have different reason why they are involve with gambling, the common saying is they are enjoying while playing, a good criteria is those who can manage their finances and not allowing addiction to take place, I see lots of different stories about heavy gaming which ended up losing a lot to the point of losing everything including their families.

If you want to play for fun, best to have a strong mental and financial control.

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January 12, 2023, 05:24:47 PM
 #646

Not really sure if I have commented this topic before, but I'll take the 1st criteria to comment:

a good gambler never chase profit
Profit might be the first reason why people gamble, but a good gambler never attached to the profit, the most important thing in gambling is excitement and fun experience, having profit is just the bonus

If you think that good gambler never chase profit, means that all gamblers in this world is not good gamblers.
All gamblers are chasing profit, this is why it is called by gambling where gamblers risk their money for more money.
It is bullshit if gamblers are gambling just for fun and entertainment only, if they just want to catch the fun, they should not gamble with real money as they can use demo mode.
I would prefer to say that good gambler is not about what they chase, but more about how the chase it.


We may not understand it or know the reason but some gamblers waste money on entertainment regardless of the result. Maybe they are the people who don't even know where to spend their money. Yes, they also chase for profit and that's how they feel entertained. I agree that a good gambler knows how to chase profit responsibly and wisely. There are gamblers who chase their losses the wrong way which usually take them on the wrong track. 

Every gambler wants profit by default but not everyone of them is after getting this profit by all means when gambling, for the categories of those that always want to make some earnings through gambling, the inpatient ones go ahead to abuse and hack their website to cheat them at all cost, these are the over zealous and hirate gamblers category, but not every gambler will be after making profits since gambling in general is profitable to them whenever they engage doing it in the comfort of their leisure time, we all have different definitions to how this mean to us.

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January 12, 2023, 06:23:10 PM
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In essence, people generally gamble because of profit, but that is the first mistake they could ever make when gambling. The moment you gamble for profit, you are essentially subjecting yourself to a bigger mess because no matter how big you win or how many streak you get, it will never be enough, there's always a bigger win to chase and a higher streak to achieve. When you gamble for fun and relaxation, you don't impose these beliefs upon yourself, and you're essentially just gambling without expecting to win, but to at least enjoy the time and money you have spent. The moment you start doing that you'll see a different and a brighter perspective to gambling, which will then in turn turn you into a good gambler, just like what OP had supposed.
The qualities mentioned here are definitely the qualities of a good gambler should possess. But the sad thing is that a gambler cannot always possess such qualities in himself. As a result they have to face losses. If the new gamblers understand these things well and gamble after gaining knowledge, they can be relatively more successful. A few days ago, when there was no research on gambling but now due to the progress of this industry, various types of research have been started on it, so if anyone want, he will get a good idea of how a gambler can control himself.
Good or not, every gambler at some point in their journey will definitely lose. But what makes a good gambler from a regular gambler different is how they act upon such losses. For instance, a loss may prompt a regular gambler to bet more to "win his losses back" which can and most often turn to him losing all his money eventually. A good gambler sees through this and realizes that there has to be a point where he should stop, and may take a breather after this loss.

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Good or not, every gambler at some point in their journey will definitely lose. But what makes a good gambler from a regular gambler different is how they act upon such losses. For instance, a loss may prompt a regular gambler to bet more to "win his losses back" which can and most often turn to him losing all his money eventually. A good gambler sees through this and realizes that there has to be a point where he should stop, and may take a breather after this loss.
Everything has to do with emotions after a gambler loses or the results of a sports bet do not match expectations so they lose, most gamblers will increase their bets in the hope of recovering those losses until he loses everything, but a good gambler will not force himself because he has the emotional control to play as usual without increases the bet and maybe stops to take a breather, but if he feels it is not his lucky day then he is out of the game and back to gambling for another day.


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Good or not, every gambler at some point in their journey will definitely lose. But what makes a good gambler from a regular gambler different is how they act upon such losses. For instance, a loss may prompt a regular gambler to bet more to "win his losses back" which can and most often turn to him losing all his money eventually. A good gambler sees through this and realizes that there has to be a point where he should stop, and may take a breather after this loss.
Everything has to do with emotions after a gambler loses or the results of a sports bet do not match expectations so they lose, most gamblers will increase their bets in the hope of recovering those losses until he loses everything, but a good gambler will not force himself because he has the emotional control to play as usual without increases the bet and maybe stops to take a breather, but if he feels it is not his lucky day then he is out of the game and back to gambling for another day.
Emotionally, there will be many causes for him to start wanting to return from defeat and continue to increase the bet, while all this is uncertain, unless he is really lucky.
In essence, good gambling is for those who are able to cope with his control, so he can get out even though he has lost the previous game, but they are now, so he will pair big again by making the biggest mistake the second time but in the end he will also lose.
It still has to be with its own portion, where the deposited funds have run out, then come back at another time.

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January 12, 2023, 08:21:13 PM
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Good or not, every gambler at some point in their journey will definitely lose. But what makes a good gambler from a regular gambler different is how they act upon such losses. For instance, a loss may prompt a regular gambler to bet more to "win his losses back" which can and most often turn to him losing all his money eventually. A good gambler sees through this and realizes that there has to be a point where he should stop, and may take a breather after this loss.
Everything has to do with emotions after a gambler loses or the results of a sports bet do not match expectations so they lose, most gamblers will increase their bets in the hope of recovering those losses until he loses everything, but a good gambler will not force himself because he has the emotional control to play as usual without increases the bet and maybe stops to take a breather, but if he feels it is not his lucky day then he is out of the game and back to gambling for another day.
Emotionally, there will be many causes for him to start wanting to return from defeat and continue to increase the bet, while all this is uncertain, unless he is really lucky.
In essence, good gambling is for those who are able to cope with his control, so he can get out even though he has lost the previous game, but they are now, so he will pair big again by making the biggest mistake the second time but in the end he will also lose.
It still has to be with its own portion, where the deposited funds have run out, then come back at another time.
Emotions are not easy to deal with, even the most disciplined gambler still get tempted to revenge on their bet when the loss, just that the discipline they set help them know when to stop. I prefer betting on budget that way it is much easier to control the urge to bet more. If the budget get exhausted i simply rest and wait for another day or time to try out my luck again.
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January 12, 2023, 08:49:10 PM
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I know myself I overcame addiction by realizing that I can control myself. It's a long process to control yourself from over doing gambling and resisting the temptation to play again but it's doable. It's easier to said than done. I've countlessly failed in limiting myself in terms of doing gambling and not overspending in it but yeah it can be achieved by slowing down and consistently doing it.
Of course, it won't be easy. Dealing with addiction is always difficult because it is to limit something we have done regularly. If we have no strong intention and don't want to force ourselves, it simply fails. However, you have proven it that by countless efforts and you tried it constantly, finally you can succeed to recover from addicts. No problem if you take a long time to recover, the most important that you can recover now. I suggest to avoid everything that can lead to addiction again, you also must commit with yourself to gamble in a proper way.  Smiley



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January 12, 2023, 09:23:21 PM
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a good gambler never chase profit
Profit might be the first reason why people gamble, but a good gambler never attached to the profit, the most important thing in gambling is excitement and fun experience, having profit is just the bonus

If you think that good gambler never chase profit, means that all gamblers in this world is not good gamblers.
All gamblers are chasing profit, this is why it is called by gambling where gamblers risk their money for more money.
It is bullshit if gamblers are gambling just for fun and entertainment only, if they just want to catch the fun, they should not gamble with real money as they can use demo mode.
I would prefer to say that good gambler is not about what they chase, but more about how the chase it.

everything you said is very true and i like your last words. but in this case I slightly disagree, because not all of that bullshit is real.
maybe almost 90% of gamblers always pursue profits in gambling and are always looking for the best way to pursue victory and profit. but I have also experienced that before before my life was destroyed at gambling. it was all my original mistake when I used to gamble, always chasing profits until I couldn't control my emotions and I turned into chasing losses and doing really stupid things selling valuables, spending all the money chasing losses and forgetting how to chase wins.
but since the devastation I decided to leave gambling a few years later and try to bet with full control and gamble with sober money without thinking about victory or profit. maybe some people judge me this is just a bullshit story but if anyone wants to see my transactions when betting or my winnings at gambling I never take them out but I use them again to bet at a later date. that's all I do just for fun.

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January 12, 2023, 09:56:42 PM
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I know myself I overcame addiction by realizing that I can control myself. It's a long process to control yourself from over doing gambling and resisting the temptation to play again but it's doable. It's easier to said than done. I've countlessly failed in limiting myself in terms of doing gambling and not overspending in it but yeah it can be achieved by slowing down and consistently doing it.
Of course, it won't be easy. Dealing with addiction is always difficult because it is to limit something we have done regularly. If we have no strong intention and don't want to force ourselves, it simply fails. However, you have proven it that by countless efforts and you tried it constantly, finally you can succeed to recover from addicts. No problem if you take a long time to recover, the most important that you can recover now. I suggest to avoid everything that can lead to addiction again, you also must commit with yourself to gamble in a proper way.  Smiley
Not limit but it must be totally cut out. Only those who are allowed to limit are people who aren't totally addicted yet but is slowly heading on that path. Recovering from addiction is hard so it might take a long time but I think it can also depend.

There maybe some addicts whose recovery rate is much faster than the others. Things that they do can contribute with it eg. doing mental exercise, regular exercise, eating the right foods and praying. Once cured, I don't suggest that they must be exposed on gambling-related stuffs. We don't want to waste the time they spent on recovering plus we can still live normally and happily even without gambling.

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January 12, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
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Not really sure if I have commented this topic before, but I'll take the 1st criteria to comment:

a good gambler never chase profit
Profit might be the first reason why people gamble, but a good gambler never attached to the profit, the most important thing in gambling is excitement and fun experience, having profit is just the bonus

If you think that good gambler never chase profit, means that all gamblers in this world is not good gamblers.
All gamblers are chasing profit, this is why it is called by gambling where gamblers risk their money for more money.
It is bullshit if gamblers are gambling just for fun and entertainment only, if they just want to catch the fun, they should not gamble with real money as they can use demo mode.
I would prefer to say that good gambler is not about what they chase, but more about how the chase it.

What you say is true, because in this case, regardless of anything, it is still the main criterion that matters, even though it is true in this case.
Seeking pleasure is actually another factor but when talking about gambling, seeking pleasure in the end only becomes a classic excuse because when we start gambling all of that will be forgotten and our focus will still be on winning.

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January 12, 2023, 10:33:27 PM
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I know myself I overcame addiction by realizing that I can control myself. It's a long process to control yourself from over doing gambling and resisting the temptation to play again but it's doable. It's easier to said than done. I've countlessly failed in limiting myself in terms of doing gambling and not overspending in it but yeah it can be achieved by slowing down and consistently doing it.
Of course, it won't be easy. Dealing with addiction is always difficult because it is to limit something we have done regularly. If we have no strong intention and don't want to force ourselves, it simply fails. However, you have proven it that by countless efforts and you tried it constantly, finally you can succeed to recover from addicts. No problem if you take a long time to recover, the most important that you can recover now. I suggest to avoid everything that can lead to addiction again, you also must commit with yourself to gamble in a proper way.  Smiley
Not limit but it must be totally cut out. Only those who are allowed to limit are people who aren't totally addicted yet but is slowly heading on that path. Recovering from addiction is hard so it might take a long time but I think it can also depend.

There maybe some addicts whose recovery rate is much faster than the others. Things that they do can contribute with it eg. doing mental exercise, regular exercise, eating the right foods and praying. Once cured, I don't suggest that they must be exposed on gambling-related stuffs. We don't want to waste the time they spent on recovering plus we can still live normally and happily even without gambling.
When it comes to addiction solving or getting ridding of it then it would be entirely be depending on someones personality on which there are ones who do easily get rid of it and there are some who cant just be able

to do so.There are different people when it comes to emotion and mindset on the things that they are dealing with and this is why results and outcomes could really differ and vary basing up into their own
perception and on how they do deal off with things.

Speaking about being a good gambler then i would say that into that someone who could just play and stop on the time that they do want and into those someone
who arent affecting their finances are considered good ones.

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A lot of people wonder what is the criteria of a good gambler, here are some of my thought about good gambler

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Excellent points, I completely agree with everything you commented and I would still like to add other characteristics that I consider important for a professional player:

Study the odds - See what the profit margin is in games, how many have already won with certain bets, check out sports betting tips, see if there are strategies that can help you bet more accurately, and so on.

Have emotional control - Good players, on a difficult betting day, manage to maintain control without despair. Because the first thing is to bet without thinking to try to recover what you lost, this can certainly lead to a disastrous result. Being calm and knowing how to manage emotions is a mandatory requirement for a professional player.

Specialize in certain areas of betting - Do not play in any and all sports, modality or market. On the contrary: focus on a few and study everything you need to about them.

Develop a method and follow predetermined steps - Having your own method is essential, as this is what will define your most successful strategies. Including, having a betting method makes it easier to identify where you are going wrong, and what you need to improve. No more “crazy” betting without a clear strategy.

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Have emotional control - Good players, on a difficult betting day, manage to maintain control without despair. Because the first thing is to bet without thinking to try to recover what you lost, this can certainly lead to a disastrous result. Being calm and knowing how to manage emotions is a mandatory requirement for a professional player.

Emotional control i should say to be the most effective or something that would be ideal for someone to have when dealing with gambling on which you could be able to handle this thing since
it would really be resulting on assessing such conditions and would be acting out basing on what you have analyzed.If you are really that good on handling your emotions then you would be
less likely be panicking out or would passing out on the other direction or decisions in life.Emotion is one of the destructive things where it could result for you
not to think up that clearly.

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Always gamblers with huge funds will be good. Because, they never care of the win/loss and the same makes them be the one that OP have mentioned. When a common man gambles automatically the prime focus will be on profit making. This will keep them emotionally connected with the money spend. So, everytime it is hard to be a good gambler. Maybe in the long run after realizing the facts about gambling, they'll turn themselves good understanding the limits and have the right start/stop position.
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January 12, 2023, 11:26:38 PM
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There maybe some addicts whose recovery rate is much faster than the others. Things that they do can contribute with it eg. doing mental exercise, regular exercise, eating the right foods and praying. Once cured, I don't suggest that they must be exposed on gambling-related stuffs. We don't want to waste the time they spent on recovering plus we can still live normally and happily even without gambling.
Indeed. There are addicts who can recover faster. It depends on the addiction level (mild addiction or severe addiction). For mild addiction, it can recover fast. While for severe addiction, it probably takes a lot of time to recover. In this level, the addicts can't separate gambling habits. They cannot stop gambling temporarily. They feel that gambling is a part of their life already. So, we must wake them up, recover their mindset, and adjust their daily activities. It is not easy, it requires a certain approach and takes much time.

When they are recovered, it depends on them. They can leave gambling totally, or stay gambling with a proper way. But for people who are afraid to experience addiction again, I support the idea to leave totally. I personally assume that gambling is only for people who have a good self-control and know their limits (funds, time).


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Always gamblers with huge funds will be good. Because, they never care of the win/loss and the same makes them be the one that OP have mentioned. When a common man gambles automatically the prime focus will be on profit making. This will keep them emotionally connected with the money spend. So, everytime it is hard to be a good gambler. Maybe in the long run after realizing the facts about gambling, they'll turn themselves good understanding the limits and have the right start/stop position.
You cant really be sure of that because on the time that these wealthy gamblers or does have lots of money would come into a point where they would really be minding with their huge losses and its impossible

that you wont really be able to notice out that you are gradually losing huge money on longer run which on the time that you are making yourself that aware already then this is where emotions would kick in.

Desperation would takes place and this is where you do mess up even more because you would really be that in a hurry on trying to break even on what you had lost.
In gambling whether you are a whale or not, we do share up on the same motive which is to make profits.

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