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July 02, 2014, 02:05:36 PM |
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I currently throttle bets after a certain amount but I am watching the server loads to see if this amount can be increased. Your bets should have only been delayed by 1 second per bet, did it seem like it was more than that ?
It seems that initially they are running much faster (around 3 bets per second, and that's fun to see stakes piling up), then all of a sudden slowing down to 1 second per bet or even slower. Local CPU load is not high, so it is evidently not a client-side issue... Personally, I would opt for even higher bet speed (the speed limit could be set through an option)! Problem is that there are a lot of bots which hammer the website constantly so increasing the limit makes the server load spike up. At the moment, a delay of 1 second is added for every 5,000 bets made in a day and I shall bring that up to 7,500 which should be good enough for most users I feel. I shall also look into implementing partial second delays at smaller intervals so that the 1 second delay doesn't feel like a big jump. Other sites implement white lists. 5,000 bets per day (or even 7,500) run at full throttle is surely not enough for auto-betting... Can you tell me which sites operate whitelists and how they work ?
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July 02, 2014, 02:09:29 PM |
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I currently throttle bets after a certain amount but I am watching the server loads to see if this amount can be increased. Your bets should have only been delayed by 1 second per bet, did it seem like it was more than that ?
It seems that initially they are running much faster (around 3 bets per second, and that's fun to see stakes piling up), then all of a sudden slowing down to 1 second per bet or even slower. Local CPU load is not high, so it is evidently not a client-side issue... Personally, I would opt for even higher bet speed (the speed limit could be set through an option)! Problem is that there are a lot of bots which hammer the website constantly so increasing the limit makes the server load spike up. At the moment, a delay of 1 second is added for every 5,000 bets made in a day and I shall bring that up to 7,500 which should be good enough for most users I feel. I shall also look into implementing partial second delays at smaller intervals so that the 1 second delay doesn't feel like a big jump. Other sites implement white lists. 5,000 bets per day (or even 7,500) run at full throttle is surely not enough for auto-betting... Can you tell me which sites operate whitelists and how they work ? PrimeDice has white lists. I don't know how they actually work, but the owner struggles with bots too, and if you're white-listed (I'm not), you get more free coins as a bonus. Someone more familiar with PD could probably add specifics to this...
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July 02, 2014, 02:25:19 PM |
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I currently throttle bets after a certain amount but I am watching the server loads to see if this amount can be increased. Your bets should have only been delayed by 1 second per bet, did it seem like it was more than that ?
It seems that initially they are running much faster (around 3 bets per second, and that's fun to see stakes piling up), then all of a sudden slowing down to 1 second per bet or even slower. Local CPU load is not high, so it is evidently not a client-side issue... Personally, I would opt for even higher bet speed (the speed limit could be set through an option)! Problem is that there are a lot of bots which hammer the website constantly so increasing the limit makes the server load spike up. At the moment, a delay of 1 second is added for every 5,000 bets made in a day and I shall bring that up to 7,500 which should be good enough for most users I feel. I shall also look into implementing partial second delays at smaller intervals so that the 1 second delay doesn't feel like a big jump. Other sites implement white lists. 5,000 bets per day (or even 7,500) run at full throttle is surely not enough for auto-betting... Can you tell me which sites operate whitelists and how they work ? PrimeDice has white lists. I don't know how they actually work, but the owner struggles with bots too, and if you're white-listed (I'm not), you get more free coins as a bonus. Someone more familiar with PD could probably add specifics to this... thank you, i shall look into that. i know just dice delayed bets that were dust amounts but i cant do that because most of the bets here will be dust amounts. the bets should be faster now, i shall try to speed them up more.
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July 02, 2014, 02:31:00 PM |
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Problem is that there are a lot of bots which hammer the website constantly so increasing the limit makes the server load spike up. At the moment, a delay of 1 second is added for every 5,000 bets made in a day and I shall bring that up to 7,500 which should be good enough for most users I feel.
I shall also look into implementing partial second delays at smaller intervals so that the 1 second delay doesn't feel like a big jump.
Other sites implement white lists. 5,000 bets per day (or even 7,500) run at full throttle is surely not enough for auto-betting... Can you tell me which sites operate whitelists and how they work ? PrimeDice has white lists. I don't know how they actually work, but the owner struggles with bots too, and if you're white-listed (I'm not), you get more free coins as a bonus. Someone more familiar with PD could probably add specifics to this... thank you, i shall look into that. i know just dice delayed bets that were dust amounts but i cant do that because most of the bets here will be dust amounts. the bets should be faster now, i shall try to speed them up more. Is it not possible to shorten the delay if you see that the stakes are growing (i.e. something like martingale is being used)? That's what auto-betting is primarily used for... And this would add to the thrill (bets speeding up)!
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July 02, 2014, 02:34:11 PM |
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Also, it would be fun to show the max bet in the currently running auto-betting session...
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July 02, 2014, 02:34:40 PM |
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Problem is that there are a lot of bots which hammer the website constantly so increasing the limit makes the server load spike up. At the moment, a delay of 1 second is added for every 5,000 bets made in a day and I shall bring that up to 7,500 which should be good enough for most users I feel.
I shall also look into implementing partial second delays at smaller intervals so that the 1 second delay doesn't feel like a big jump.
Other sites implement white lists. 5,000 bets per day (or even 7,500) run at full throttle is surely not enough for auto-betting... Can you tell me which sites operate whitelists and how they work ? PrimeDice has white lists. I don't know how they actually work, but the owner struggles with bots too, and if you're white-listed (I'm not), you get more free coins as a bonus. Someone more familiar with PD could probably add specifics to this... thank you, i shall look into that. i know just dice delayed bets that were dust amounts but i cant do that because most of the bets here will be dust amounts. the bets should be faster now, i shall try to speed them up more. Is it not possible to shorten the delay if you see that the stakes are growing (i.e. something like martingale is being used)? That's what auto-betting is primarily used for... To do that I would need to have a record of previous bets which I dont keep because that would bloat the database making stuff slower.
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July 02, 2014, 02:35:52 PM |
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Also, it would be fun to show the max bet in the currently running auto-betting session... You mean the highest bet that has been placed ? or the max bet set by the user ?
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July 02, 2014, 02:38:57 PM |
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Also, it would be fun to show the max bet in the currently running auto-betting session... You mean the highest bet that has been placed ? or the max bet set by the user ? The highest bet that has been reached during the current auto-betting indeed (add it next to the number of rolls played and remaining)...
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July 02, 2014, 02:41:44 PM |
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Is it not possible to shorten the delay if you see that the stakes are growing (i.e. something like martingale is being used)? That's what auto-betting is primarily used for... To do that I would need to have a record of previous bets which I dont keep because that would bloat the database making stuff slower. You could track bets only for the current session of auto-betting, then reset it (or even reset the record when the bets return to the base bet within the auto-betting session)...
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July 02, 2014, 02:47:53 PM |
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Is it not possible to shorten the delay if you see that the stakes are growing (i.e. something like martingale is being used)? That's what auto-betting is primarily used for... To do that I would need to have a record of previous bets which I dont keep because that would bloat the database making stuff slower. You could track bets only for the current session of auto-betting, then reset it (or even reset the record when the bets return to the base bet within the auto-betting session)... That would have to be done using javascript and smart users would be able to bypass the delay if it is set using javascript and not server-side. I shall try to look into ways to remove the delay for specific betting patterns.
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July 02, 2014, 03:09:14 PM |
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Also, it would be fun to show the max bet in the currently running auto-betting session... You mean the highest bet that has been placed ? or the max bet set by the user ? The highest bet that has been reached during the current auto-betting indeed (add it next to the number of rolls played and remaining)... Done!
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July 02, 2014, 03:12:21 PM |
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It seems that BIGGEST BET THIS SESSION should be changed to BIGGEST WIN THIS SESSION (or added next to) and colored in green of course...
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July 02, 2014, 03:18:07 PM |
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It seems that BIGGEST BET THIS SESSION should be changed to BIGGEST WIN THIS SESSION (or added next to) and colored in green of course... Its not necessarily a win (in case it hits max bet and loses). I'll make it green. Adding it next to the rolls played will not look so good for users on narrow screens.
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July 02, 2014, 03:19:19 PM |
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Maybe show how much loss/profit made during that auto bet session?
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July 02, 2014, 03:29:42 PM |
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It seems that BIGGEST BET THIS SESSION should be changed to BIGGEST WIN THIS SESSION (or added next to) and colored in green of course... Its not necessarily a win (in case it hits max bet and loses). I'll make it green. Adding it next to the rolls played will not look so good for users on narrow screens. Ok, place it below!
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July 02, 2014, 04:26:50 PM |
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FREE PLAY interferes with a running auto-betting session when the time comes for a free roll (that is interrupts it). Surely not what you would expect...
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July 02, 2014, 04:50:01 PM |
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It seems that BIGGEST BET THIS SESSION should be changed to BIGGEST WIN THIS SESSION (or added next to) and colored in green of course... Maybe show how much loss/profit made during that auto bet session?
Done and done! FREE PLAY interferes with a running auto-betting session when the time comes for a free roll (that is interrupts it). Surely not what you would expect... Not sure what I can do about that. I'll try to add an option in auto-bet which if you tick, the page will not be refreshed when free play timer runs out.
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July 02, 2014, 05:22:56 PM |
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FREE PLAY interferes with a running auto-betting session when the time comes for a free roll (that is interrupts it). Surely not what you would expect... Not sure what I can do about that. I'll try to add an option in auto-bet which if you tick, the page will not be refreshed when free play timer runs out. That would be nice! It doesn't feel good to get interrupted when you are deep in the groove...
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July 03, 2014, 10:21:55 AM |
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P/L doesn't count jackpot losses, I played 100 times with jackpot on and end result was P/L THIS SESSION : 0.00000005 BTC But really I was 0.00000195 BTC on loss.
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July 03, 2014, 10:25:36 AM |
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P/L doesn't count jackpot losses, I played 100 times with jackpot on and end result was P/L THIS SESSION : 0.00000005 BTC But really I was 0.00000195 BTC on loss.
Including jackpot profit/losses in the P/L will not show accurately the efficiency of the betting strategy. I shall add a separate line for that.
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