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February 08, 2014, 10:08:06 PM
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Release 0.7.1

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.7.1.zip

sha256: 08f54b324ec4e644adc4864368e31c7ed14feb52918ca4522377c94d1f360f8a


"Scanning blockchain" takes ages (over 10 minutes).
Is there any way to speed it up?

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February 08, 2014, 10:14:42 PM
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On the 11th of Feb we r launching public test of Asset Exchange. Do we have at least 1 client ready for that? What platforms does it support?

I will probably start implementing on 11th, so I won't make it.
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February 08, 2014, 10:15:11 PM
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[ANN] Anon136's Silver Bullion NXT Gateway https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455861

I have some questions for the community in there so please take a look and leave me some feedback.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 08, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Release 0.7.1

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.7.1.zip

sha256: 08f54b324ec4e644adc4864368e31c7ed14feb52918ca4522377c94d1f360f8a


"Scanning blockchain" takes ages (over 10 minutes).
Is there any way to speed it up?

worked MUUUCH faster for me than all previous versions...
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February 08, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2014, 11:03:14 PM by Zahlen
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James, how does this affect the status of your VM bounty?
It seems to obsolete it
I think zahlen was the only one who spent time on it
If it is ok with him, i would like to authorize 500 nxt for his troubles

Wasn't any trouble, it was fun revisiting a topic (computability theory) I hadn't worked with for a long time. I'm always ok with more nxt though Smiley Thanks a lot!

Earning Nxt with doing something you like is great, isn't it?
It's awesome!
First time getting paid by doing 3D work, the work I like very much.
The rest is very technical for me, but I read all the posts here anyway  Tongue

Congrats! Yeah, it's really awesome to get paid with what you're working on. I wonder if this is how folks who get paid in shares feel? (I'm definitely looking forward to when our "shares" take off Grin)

Btw https://i.imgur.com/Bz6KfAv.jpg is amazing! The texture feels textured in this version. I didn't like the marble texture much.


Question:
Is it better to give 5, 10 or 20 Nxt to little good things you see regularly (expecting everyone else to do the same),
or;
Will people think that is insulting for their effort (maybe get pee'd off and stop helping?) so I should save up my Nxt till I see something "WOW!" and give a few hundred?
I've gotten some small donations and one large one. I appreciate them all the same.

Yeah, I wouldn't feel insulted if I were given 1 nxt, I'd appreciate the gesture.

(This is the cue for everyone to start tipping me Grin)

I'd love it if there was a way to include a message along with the tip. This is a given in doge tipping on reddit, since the tip bot works via replying to who you want to tip, should be the same way for a nxt reddit tip bot. Would also be natural thing if a site like a forum could integrate a more general tipping software and API. tipnxt.com already has this feature.

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February 08, 2014, 10:40:38 PM
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chess tourney for Nxt is about to start.
join
http://www.freechess.org/Events/NXT/

missed it, will join next one!
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February 08, 2014, 10:50:31 PM
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chess tourney for Nxt is about to start.
join
http://www.freechess.org/Events/NXT/

missed it, will join next one!
Too bad it's always at time we have dinner here. My wife wouldn't be happy if I play...  Sad
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February 08, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2014, 11:07:02 PM by Zahlen
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I've started a section on the wiki for organizing our projects. In particular, check out the List of Proposals and Bounties page. I'm thinking we could link to stuff that is "active" there. That could be links to forum threads, google docs, or other wiki pages where projects are being discussed and hashed out, and project statuses are being updated.

For a good example of this, check out the wiki page for the new address format using Reed-Solomon encoding that NxtChg started a long time ago. Very clearly organized.

My thinking is to use the Discussion pages for throwing around ideas, criticisms, suggestions, etc, and use the main pages for summary of the proposal/project status.

Not enough folks are using Discussion pages . Click on this tab more often:



James, this could be the right place for you to put up your (many, many!) ideas for comment. EvilDave, you could put your carbon offset proposal here too. Lots more projects that I don't remember (this is why we need to put all of them in a convenient place).

Pin, maybe it could be easier if you got everyone to post their projects on the wiki instead? Then you can just go through a list of links.

Don't worry about messing things up, it's a wiki, everything can be reversed. And don't worry if you don't know wiki formatting, just type/copy and paste. Other people can help you clean things up. If there's demand, I'll put up a quick guide to simple wiki editing.

I'll be technical support. Anyone has a problem, e.g. getting errors, can't figure out how to do something, ask me and I'll troubleshoot.

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February 08, 2014, 10:55:57 PM
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dotNXT v.0.0.7.2 released

Release changes:
  • NRS 0.6.2 and 0.7.1 support

Known issues:
  • Forging timer is incorrect

dotNXT.0.0.7.2.setup.exe 951581 bytes
MD5      bba8037bbdf1c1b0ac59940531c0cbfe
SHA1   78dd9cdf62fa4e9c5ad20269d3493ab35774115c
SHA256   339985630369eb3a227f5512de79961f839d7026406c7a1c6444934226eda0a1
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February 08, 2014, 11:03:16 PM
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"Scanning blockchain" takes ages (over 10 minutes).
Is there any way to speed it up?

It seems to depend very non-linearly on the amount of memory. I don't have a better solution yet other than just making sure you give it enough memory. For me anything above -Xmx1024M works fine, 768M is slow, 512M crashed after more than 10 min of high CPU load. It is strange because last week I was able to run it with only -Xmx256M. These are the timings I get now:

-Xmx4096M:   55 s
-Xmx1024M:   58 s
-Xmx768M:     2 min 26 s
-Xmx512M:     > 10 min, out of memory


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February 08, 2014, 11:07:44 PM
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Anyway, why are hallmarks encoded to an ip address? A big problem for dynamic ips. Why not a private/public key pair with public key signed by an account?

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February 08, 2014, 11:21:41 PM
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Anyway, why are hallmarks encoded to an ip address? A big problem for dynamic ips. Why not a private/public key pair with public key signed by an account?

I would like a mechanism like that. Maybe, hallmark is the wrong name though.
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February 08, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
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PUBLIC MATH SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Can someone explain how he found out the passphrase of the genesis account?

    "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."

It has 14 words and some punctuation. Ignoring the punctuation and using a simple 2000 words long dictionary (and this is tiny! There are 1013913 words in the English language) we get 2000^14 possible passphrases, or about 10^46 possibilities, if we go by characters from the alphabet, it has 26^72 ~ 10^101 possibilities. A password written in base 58 and 26 characters long is also about 10^46 possibilities. In comparison, a random 8 character long password takes 3 hours to crack on a desktop pc. 9 char -> 3days, 10 char -> 1 year, 11 char -> 48 years. 26 char -> An octillion years.

Now it is a given that the entropy of a random password is much higher than that of a phrase from a novel, but I still can't see how he could crack the passphrase unless the entire thing was already in his dictionary! Let's not forget he was using a python script which is notably slow!

You've answered your own question Smiley An earlier poster linked to an Ars Technica article explaining this approach to password cracking in more detail.

Lots of people have already replied to this from the security perspective. I'm replying to this from the math perspective. Math is not simply about crunching numbers to get answers, it's really about reasoning and proof. This reasoning usually takes the form of

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If (certain conditions hold), then (certain things must be true).

A lot of the 'math' I've been seeing lately forget to check that the conditions indeed hold. When you make a claim, and want to convince other people of that claim, the burden of proof should be on you to establish that the conditions hold, and that your claims follow from those conditions.

This is time-consuming though, we can't always reason through everything from basic principles. It's very tempting, and for little things more practical to just intuit/jump ahead, I'm often guilty of this. But we should keep in mind that if we jump ahead like this, we can't be certain our claims are correct

In service of math, and consequently the public.

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February 08, 2014, 11:48:23 PM
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It seems to depend very non-linearly on the amount of memory. I don't have a better solution yet other than just making sure you give it enough memory. For me anything above -Xmx1024M works fine, 768M is slow, 512M crashed after more than 10 min of high CPU load. It is strange because last week I was able to run it with only -Xmx256M. These are the timings I get now:

-Xmx4096M:   55 s
-Xmx1024M:   58 s
-Xmx768M:     2 min 26 s
-Xmx512M:     > 10 min, out of memory

Running 0.7.1 since release no probs with -Xmx500M

edit: not forging though
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February 08, 2014, 11:52:53 PM
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version 0.7.x runs stable for me.
JL ,  you bring it up to production state, step by step.
Keep up the good work!!!

NxT: 13574045486980287597
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Last edit: February 09, 2014, 01:01:45 AM by POPPP
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I've started a section on the wiki for organizing our projects. In particular, check out the List of Proposals and Bounties page. I'm thinking we could link to stuff that is "active" there. That could be links to forum threads, google docs, or other wiki pages where projects are being discussed and hashed out, and project statuses are being updated.

For a good example of this, check out the wiki page for the new address format using Reed-Solomon encoding that NxtChg started a long time ago. Very clearly organized.

My thinking is to use the Discussion pages for throwing around ideas, criticisms, suggestions, etc, and use the main pages for summary of the proposal/project status.

Not enough folks are using Discussion pages . Click on this tab more often:



James, this could be the right place for you to put up your (many, many!) ideas for comment. EvilDave, you could put your carbon offset proposal here too. Lots more projects that I don't remember (this is why we need to put all of them in a convenient place).

Pin, maybe it could be easier if you got everyone to post their projects on the wiki instead? Then you can just go through a list of links.

Don't worry about messing things up, it's a wiki, everything can be reversed. And don't worry if you don't know wiki formatting, just type/copy and paste. Other people can help you clean things up. If there's demand, I'll put up a quick guide to simple wiki editing.

I'll be technical support. Anyone has a problem, e.g. getting errors, can't figure out how to do something, ask me and I'll troubleshoot.

+1 IMPORTANT that would be more clear and more real
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February 09, 2014, 12:53:04 AM
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version 0.7.x runs stable for me.
JL ,  you bring it up to production state, step by step.
Keep up the good work!!!

seems to be pretty stable for me as well.  did get this though:

Code:
[2014-02-08 16:04:55.838] DEBUG: Will pop block 16510352762190493348 at height 61626
[2014-02-08 17:16:06.707] DEBUG: Will pop block 13029646756006985243 at height 61676
[2014-02-08 18:31:33.122] DEBUG: Failed to analyze hallmark for peer nxt.homer.ru, java.nio.BufferUnderflowException
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February 09, 2014, 01:08:42 AM
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0.7.1... believe that this will work on a dedicated server?



the 0.7.x version is a bad idea!
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February 09, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455861

I could use more opinions on the off brand vs shot vs both question.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 09, 2014, 01:21:00 AM
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"Scanning blockchain" takes ages (over 10 minutes).
Is there any way to speed it up?

It seems to depend very non-linearly on the amount of memory. I don't have a better solution yet other than just making sure you give it enough memory. For me anything above -Xmx1024M works fine, 768M is slow, 512M crashed after more than 10 min of high CPU load. It is strange because last week I was able to run it with only -Xmx256M. These are the timings I get now:

-Xmx4096M:   55 s
-Xmx1024M:   58 s
-Xmx768M:     2 min 26 s
-Xmx512M:     > 10 min, out of memory


Oh well, no raspberry  anymore  Undecided

It will only work with it when starting without db and build it new. After restart its not working anymore...

odroid:
-Xmx1024M: ~5min
-Xmx512M:   ~25min but starting

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