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February 10, 2014, 04:16:28 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.  It would go a long way to boosting NXT acceptance, adoption, and exchange price.

So...what would it take to do better at our public relations face to the public?  What is the next major milestone we could announce to the world?  
cannot sleap, too much weed..

I asked for a letter so we could send it to universities and businessmen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5007480#msg5007480

Then we are working on articles, some of them are still free:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.msg5009460#msg5009460
- I am finishing the text "Decentralized internet and Nxt solutions", so I hope it will get some comments from the community and them we can send it to big mainstream media and get attention from guys like Kim Dotcom or Assagne. As was said, contact with Kim is possible, but we need to show him this text first Smiley

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Relax.  Don't panic.  Stay calm and carry on.

I agree with this and hope you haven't taken my criticisms too heavily James. Understand that from a "software engineering" perspective the way you think is a bit like if you approached a "structural engineer" with the following:

1) I need a foundation for a house to be built made out of steel.
Engineer says no worries - let me work out how much steel we will need - how big is the house?

2) I think that the building will need a helipad - can we have a helipad that handles up to 4 helicopters at once?
Engineer says - "building" hang on a minute I thought you said "house" - we are going to need a *lot* of steel - you don't want to use concrete also?

3) I think that the building needs to be a floating structure that will be placed into international waters - no problem with making it float?
Engineer says - I am going for a beer.

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February 10, 2014, 05:04:27 AM
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cannot sleap, too much weed..
- I am finishing the text "Decentralized internet and Nxt solutions", so I hope it will get some comments from the community and them we can send it to big mainstream media and get attention from guys like Kim Dotcom or Assagne. As was said, contact with Kim is possible, but we need to show him this text first Smiley

Somehow, when I asked the question of how to do better at our public relations face, I didn't think the answer would be too much weed, Kim Dotcom and Julian Assagne.

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February 10, 2014, 05:32:19 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.

Don't forget that we r decentralized. When u find such people - don't make them the leaders.
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February 10, 2014, 05:35:56 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.

Don't forget that we r decentralized. When u find such people - don't make them the leaders.

I understand the difference between leaders and spokespeople.  I think NXT needs spokespeople.  Preferably cute females.  Or old guys willing to make a fool of themselves in front of a crowd at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.  But with so much of the NXT Secret Plan still under wraps, it's really hard for spokespeople to know just what to say...
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February 10, 2014, 05:37:48 AM
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I see what you mean. Commodity-backed money. Hmm, will history repeat itself? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6LWqgohO4E

The money should be backed by commodity and not the way is now.
The commodity is limited, planet earth is limited resources on the planet are limited
there is no space for infinite growth in economy.
Now the money is not backed by anything or only by empty promises in future.

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February 10, 2014, 05:54:14 AM
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Sent about 20 emails/tweets to the attendants of the conf to have a talk/interview, we have business cards, thirts, flyers and probably will have stickers too. I hope it's worth of all that time spent on such things

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February 10, 2014, 06:03:20 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.

Don't forget that we r decentralized. When u find such people - don't make them the leaders.

I understand the difference between leaders and spokespeople.  I think NXT needs spokespeople.  Preferably cute females.  Or old guys willing to make a fool of themselves in front of a crowd at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.  But with so much of the NXT Secret Plan still under wraps, it's really hard for spokespeople to know just what to say...

My wife is pretty hot. I might be able to get her to do some things. She has listened to me talk about Nxt enough that she knows just as much as I do.

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February 10, 2014, 06:08:07 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.

Don't forget that we r decentralized. When u find such people - don't make them the leaders.

I understand the difference between leaders and spokespeople.  I think NXT needs spokespeople.  Preferably cute females.  Or old guys willing to make a fool of themselves in front of a crowd at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.  But with so much of the NXT Secret Plan still under wraps, it's really hard for spokespeople to know just what to say...

My wife is pretty hot. I might be able to get her to do some things. She has listened to me talk about Nxt enough that she knows just as much as I do.

 Grin now it's getting interesting  Grin
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February 10, 2014, 06:09:01 AM
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I give 99% that fix of Curve25519 is safe, but the rest 1% doesn't let me to use the fix coz this part is the most critical part of Nxt. So without a formal proof I'll stick to loop inside Crypto.sign.

Last one from me:
There's nothing to prove, math stays the same, it's the implementation that's wrong not the math,.
All the math is already in the file in the comments, those comments were made by this "xmath" dude from sci.crypt (I assume this is Matthijs van Duin).

Do you have link  Matthijs van Duin comments? Maybe that will convince CFB if you posted the link to  Matthijs van Duin

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February 10, 2014, 06:35:10 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.

Don't forget that we r decentralized. When u find such people - don't make them the leaders.

I understand the difference between leaders and spokespeople.  I think NXT needs spokespeople.  Preferably cute females.  Or old guys willing to make a fool of themselves in front of a crowd at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.  But with so much of the NXT Secret Plan still under wraps, it's really hard for spokespeople to know just what to say...

My wife is pretty hot. I might be able to get her to do some things. She has listened to me talk about Nxt enough that she knows just as much as I do.

 Grin now it's getting interesting  Grin


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February 10, 2014, 06:43:07 AM
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Last one from me:
There's nothing to prove, math stays the same, it's the implementation that's wrong not the math,.
All the math is already in the file in the comments, those comments were made by this "xmath" dude from sci.crypt (I assume this is Matthijs van Duin).


"doctorevil" thinks the patch  is kosher

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3915.msg37082.html#msg37082

Given his history, we should take his advice and apply the patch.


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February 10, 2014, 06:46:21 AM
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Why should we rush things when one smart guy says "It looks totally kosher to me."?
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February 10, 2014, 06:49:00 AM
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Why should we rush things when one smart guy says "It looks totally kosher to me."?

He earned his credibility here

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3884.msg36732.html#msg36732

but it's not one guy. There are two others (gimre and BloodyRookie)

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February 10, 2014, 06:52:54 AM
Last edit: February 10, 2014, 07:22:48 AM by gimre
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Code:
if ((v[31] & 0x80) != 0)
{
mula_small(v, v , 0, ORDER, 32, 1);
}
Don't do this. The time required to run the code should NEVER depend on input data. This makes timing attacks possible (depending how to the methods are used).
If this is fixed it should be incorporated into main client.


You want to say, alternative USING LOOP to find proper x is better?

(on a sidenote, current implementation of Curve most likely IS susceptible to timing attack, but that shouldn't be a problem - network lag would screw your timings a lot)


edit oh and also that:
NOW, signing is actually:
v * temp, where temp is related ONLY to PUBLIC key. (v is dependent ONLY on the data)
...
(whatever old one leaks is up to you, I know it doesn't, cause it's NOT related directly to private key)

seems doctorevil said the same:
Quote from: doctorevil
Iruu's mention of a possible timing attack doesn't really apply to the patch.  The impact on the timing of sign() that the changes make only leak data about values that are already public.

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February 10, 2014, 06:59:17 AM
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Too bad we don't have real world people mentioned in real world press releases like this.

Don't forget that we r decentralized. When u find such people - don't make them the leaders.

Hey CfB - did I miss that getTrades call, or did you just put that in yeseteday!?!

This is an extremely valuable function to have, I was up and about to implement it client side !!

Luckily I did not yet   Grin
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February 10, 2014, 07:06:11 AM
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I just made a statistic about nxt balance distribution.
the current percentage of top100/top500/top1000/top2000 acounts are 82.7%、96.6%、98.9%、99.7%, respectivey,
the variation curves is as follow:


there're about 22k nxt accounts for the time being, among these accounts, there're 15k  whose balance are more than 0.
among the 15k accounts, more than 60 percent have less than 10 balance:

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February 10, 2014, 07:10:50 AM
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I have a great idea!

They could do a button or API function to cancel a transfer before the 800 confirmations (half the 1440 maturity)??
this could be very useful in cases of hacking of accounts or simply because the user has repented.

I think it's very possible, you just have to create the function.

Please! would be a great feature!

Regards! Smiley
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February 10, 2014, 07:34:02 AM
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I have a great idea!

They could do a button or API function to cancel a transfer before the 800 confirmations (half the 1440 maturity)??
this could be very useful in cases of hacking of accounts or simply because the user has repented.

I think it's very possible, you just have to create the function.

Please! would be a great feature!

Regards! Smiley

I think this is bad. Later, by sending transaction to the next forging trusted node, you want instant transactions. This wouldn't be possible with your idea, would it?
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February 10, 2014, 07:34:28 AM
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Hey CfB - did I miss that getTrades call, or did you just put that in yeseteday!?!

This is an extremely valuable function to have, I was up and about to implement it client side !!

Luckily I did not yet   Grin

It was added ~1 week ago. But it was in AE client devs version only.
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