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April 11, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
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is anything like this being done for nxt?

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- Payment with a security code (new function)

  How does it work?

  When you transfer the money, choose the option "security transfer". After sending the money, the system will "security code". This code you must inform the recipient. Only when the receiver will indicate the code then be able to complete the transaction. If the code is not mentioned the money back to the sender
This doesn't make sense ah?

This is like Western Union.

Since this is a piece of information you give the recipient what you are suggesting is already there and quite easy, dont broadcast the transaction, give the singed transaction to the recipient. The only problem is the danger of a double spend. Also can be done otherwise but why complicate it when it is already applicable using the current design but with a specific use to acheive  this goal.

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April 11, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
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Development Node.Js

New NXT Lite (Step 3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=562027

Test network http://193.169.244.74:19775

New Features Next Coin Lite:

- Paymant
- Transaction NXL
- Ability to pay is less than 1 unit - for example 0.0001
- Transaction USD / EUR
- Own virtual currency (Asset XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXNAME)
- Instant Transactions
- Arbitrary Messaging
- Basic DDoS Protection
- Adress Book
- Reputation System




So this is NXT but in node.js???


maybe  a scam

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April 11, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
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Good afternoon guys  Grin


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April 11, 2014, 02:23:12 PM
Last edit: April 11, 2014, 03:20:57 PM by joefox
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Nobody gives a damn about nxt outside the crypto currency scene (do you agree that a lot of people share this delusion that it is otherwise in this community? )

I totally agree here, and feel this has to be taken into account when considering marketing efforts.

Yes mastercoin failed at converting customers, delivering a satisfactory product and worse : they have left a bad taste with investors and potential users in crypto land…But they did drive massive amounts of traffic and interests..this is what I am getting at.

What good does any marketing do Nxt if it drives huge amounts of traffic and interest that all lead to a "bad taste with investors and potential users in crypto land"?  You agree, then, that the Mastercoin example illustrates my point.  Don't even get me started on eMunie.

We know that weslyh user friendly client isn't going to be ready till the asset exchange launch and I am not advocating a campaign to direct users to a dead-end…what I am proposing is a specially designed and incentivized, ready-set campaign towards businesses who will use the asset exchange for fundraising…our clients are not perfect, Are we going to wait till the day of the asset exchange launch to come up with the right marketing strategy?Huh

I think you're not aware of what's happening behind the scenes.  Work is in progress on these things *now*.


These line of work and education should be the BASICS!!!!!!!  they are necessary, but they are not be the reliant strategy which would catapult NXT out to the stratosphere…

What does "Nxt out to the stratosphere" mean to you?  It's a genuine question.  Help me understand your goals by defining for me what your vision of success looks like.

The point is each one of these businesses would be an individual marketing powerhouse pointing users/investors in the direction of the nxt client to access/invest/interact with the company financially. Therefore as each business grows NXT flourishes and you will have thousands of autonomous marketing agents pushing nxt indirectly to new users…

Fine.  What do those businesses get out of the deal?  How much work to they need to put in?  What is their ROI?  And once you have all that figured out, how does it compare to other possible channels?

If Nxt incentivizes a business to "get them on board", and there is no return for that business as a result, how is that any different than the kind of marketing we now both agree is BAD -- i.e. making promises on which you cannot deliver?

It's TOO EARLY for all of this, Ola.  I do take your point that we need to be planning ahead... but I also insist that this is happening, in the background, on many fronts, so that we WILL be ready when features are ready.

Now understand this, nobody outside of crypto gives a damn about nxt or bitcoin…But they sure do know an investment opportunity when they see one and they would go throughout the hoops to find a way (weslyhs client) to invest in a certain company if they think investing will bring them X amounts in profits….so which is better?

Let's see if I follow your logic:
- nobody gives a damn about Nxt or Bitcoin
- Nxt and Bitcoin are not investment opportunities, otherwise people would care about them
- people do give a damn about things that bring them profits (i.e. good invesment opportunities)
- so your point is.... Huh?  I'm lost

It sounds more and more like we absolutely agree on all fronts, Ola.

finding out that they could potentially make X% returns by using a certain client ( bitcoin=>nxt wesleyh client) to buy company shares, in which the company itself was the initiator of the investment opportunity, which is an easier process?Huh??

Oh!  This is a lovely feature of Nxt!  Tell me: how does it work?  WHat is that X you refer to?  Where is the demo of this thing?  What are the features?  When will it be out?  How can I invest?  Who do I talk to?  Do these people have real names or are you asking me to invest millions of dollars into a crypto being developed out of an Internet forum by people named after Star Trek characters?  

Sounds great! When can I start?

How can we market something that does not exist yet, is not yet fully designed, has no complete development plan, and no accountable delivery dates?  How is that that you are not understanding these fundamentals?

Look at Jean-Luc's road map.  The key message is that we need DEVELOPERS.  Without that, nothing can be built, on any timeline, EVER.

IMHO, marketing needs to assist *right now* with helping to locate developer help.  That is Priority One.

I will do a write up of the strategy by the end of this weekend and post to the nxtforum, I will also include a bounty proposal for this person as well as incentive bounties for potential businesses with realistic scalable business models  and marketing plans.

I can't wait to see it!  I'll start making the popcorn.

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April 11, 2014, 02:34:01 PM
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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool
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April 11, 2014, 02:45:39 PM
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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool

congratulation! that is 1.3% return right there!

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April 11, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool

Nice !

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April 11, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool

wow congrats! that's a very lucky find.

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April 11, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

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April 11, 2014, 04:12:34 PM
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Can you post your passphrase? The devs will be interested.

And it happened a month ago?
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April 11, 2014, 04:13:39 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

34 random characters cracked? Ummmmm...That's really strange!  Undecided
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April 11, 2014, 04:16:33 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

"Just"? This happened a month ago according to blockchain explorer. Anyway, 25+ truly random passwords are very safe.
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April 11, 2014, 04:16:45 PM
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you were NOT bruteforced.

I show you a NUMBERS only password bruteforcer with 34 chars. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!



You were hacked, some way or another

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April 11, 2014, 04:19:39 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

It seems that you never made an outgoing transaction before, which makes your account less secured than making an outgoing transaction.
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April 11, 2014, 04:23:15 PM
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Development Node.Js

New NXT Lite (Step 3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=562027

Test network http://193.169.244.74:19775

New Features Next Coin Lite:

- Paymant
- Transaction NXL
- Ability to pay is less than 1 unit - for example 0.0001
- Transaction USD / EUR
- Own virtual currency (Asset XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXNAME)
- Instant Transactions
- Arbitrary Messaging
- Basic DDoS Protection
- Adress Book
- Reputation System




So this is NXT but in node.js???


maybe  a scam

Nopte, i've checked looks solid! All the members are discussing like they know about it! I might consider investing in it! It's only 0.02 btc, so not big deal! Who knows maybe this is the next BIG THing! Cheers

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April 11, 2014, 04:23:26 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

It seems that you never made an outgoing transaction before, which makes your account less secured than making an outgoing transaction.

This makes it a BIT less secure, still with 10 Gkeys per second (that number is only possible with a botnet) it still takes 350 years...


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April 11, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

Do you remember which nxt website you downloaded the client from?

And can you post your passphrase, now that it is no good to you?

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April 11, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
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testNXT please
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April 11, 2014, 04:36:54 PM
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I just lost 4895 NXT due to a hack of my account 5567681145144036875...My NXT were transformed to 559517716197875196

I know there is no way to get the coins back, but I wanted to let you all know and stress out USE PASSWORDS WITH AT LEAST 100+ chars!!! My password was 34 chars/random combination...no keylogger on my pc, NRS (0.7.5) from the official source...I guess I just have been very unlucky...


https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4611.0.html

This is what I offered as idea in nxtforum.org:

"Hi

One idea came to my head. Is it possible to do, that if account is unlocked and forging, it is not possible to unlock account from different PC on the same time? In other words, account could be unlocked only in one place. This is for security. If somebody has Your passphrase and You has unlocked account in Your own PC, nobody else can unlock Your account in other place at the same time.

So, people, for account security issue, are obliged to forge, keeping account unlocked in their safe PC.

Or it is complete nonsense?"

Of course, to have such solution, account has to be unlocked and forging all the time. Despite that passphrase with 30 symbols can be bruteforced in 300 years, here is still, even very very little possibility, that someone has a luck to use the same passphrase already existing.
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April 11, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
Last edit: April 11, 2014, 05:04:08 PM by Daedelus
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CfB has completed the code for phasing of transactions, it is waiting to be merged into the main code.
I stand corrected   Cheesy

Part of this will be Account Control where you will be able to, among other things, lock your account for outgoing transactions. Or limit outgoing transactions to specific accounts. I don't have the full details.
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