NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[POPPP]

Although I do wish "NXT starter" all the best understand that the AT system will allow you to create a crowdfunding AT that requires *zero trust* and *zero commission* (will simply be run by fees).

The plan I have in mind is to make this as simple as a "form that you will fill out" in order to create this AT (so no need to even understand programming at all).

It isn't easy to understand Internet 2.0 as we have all become so used to Internet 1.0 but hopefully people will see that "centralised websites" are going to have to become "a thing of the past".

No probleme with that, i even hope this is our future, i'm ok to become one thing of the past after some month if decentralized web become real.
But for now, NXTstarter can be a nice windows for everyone, where we can see what is going on.

NXTstarter could be a platform to showcase the projects but isn't involved in the payment process.

Yes it can be that.
More Better, NXTstarter work with all crypto, so there is also some thing to do here.

While i think this project is nice, I am a bit skeptic, that your numbers will match reality. Within 2 years 2% of all NXT will have to go through your platform. While possible, i doubt it. Care to convince me?

In the realworld, crowfunding websites are also not very successful.

It is very ambitious plan, but remember all crypto are allowed on this webiste.

[CIYAM]

So "applications" becomes ATs and "DBs" become "parallel storage chains".

Can we say these two things are next biggest things in crypto system world?

IMO these technologies will be the *backbone* for Internet 2.0 applications (as opposed to the centralised servers and DB storage systems used today).

[Tobo]

IMO these technologies will be the *backbone* for Internet 2.0 applications (as opposed to the centralised servers and DB storage systems used today).

Now I am hearing more and more the words of Internet2.0, instead of Cpytocurrency2.0. That will change a lots of things and lots of minds.

[Come-from-Beyond]

IMO these technologies will be the *backbone* for Internet 2.0 applications (as opposed to the centralised servers and DB storage systems used today).

What do u mean what talk about Internet 2.0? Maybe Web 2.0?

[CIYAM]

What do u mean what talk about Internet 2.0? Maybe Web 2.0?

You could term it Web 2.0 if you like but I think of it more as Internet 2.0 because I see that *all* the things we do today (such as email, IM, photos, file storage, audio and video) will end up over this new "software infrastructure" (not just what we think of as "web services").

Also I believe that as we look towards things like "mesh nets" the new internet will drift from the "traditional transmission" as well (so not only software but hardware as well).

[Come-from-Beyond]

You could term it Web 2.0 if you like but I think of it more as Internet 2.0 because I see that *all* the things we do today (such as email, IM, photos, file storage, audio and video) will end up over this new "software infrastructure" (not just what we think of as "web services").

Also I believe that as we look towards things like "mesh nets" the new internet will drift from the "traditional transmission" as well (so not only software but hardware as well).

What r the main differences between Internet 1.0 and 2.0?

[CIYAM]

What r the main differences between Internet 1.0 and 2.0?

Internet 1.0 is "centralised" with a DNS system and the CA cert system and the use of "big servers" to provide "centrally controlled" applications such as say Banking, Google or Facebook.

Internet 2.0 is "decentralised" with no DNS system (the reason I don't like unique aliases) and no centralised CA cert system as well as no centralised big servers running such services.

Governments would prefer us to stick with Internet 1.0 whereas I think it will be "the people" who would prefer to use Internet 2.0 (at least eventually).

[TwinWinNerD]

What r the main differences between Internet 1.0 and 2.0?

Internet 1.0 is "centralised" with a DNS system and the CA cert system and the use of "big servers" to provide "centrally controlled" applications such as say Banking, Google or Facebook.

Internet 2.0 is "decentralised" with no DNS system (the reason I don't like unique aliases) and no centralised CA cert system as well as no centralised big servers running such services.

The internet 2.0 sounds impractical for big bandwith usage, or am i wrong?

Maybe use 1.0 for all the dataintensive stuff and 2.0 for the sensitive stuff?

[TwinWinNerD]

Although I do wish "NXT starter" all the best understand that the AT system will allow you to create a crowdfunding AT that requires *zero trust* and *zero commission* (will simply be run by fees).

The plan I have in mind is to make this as simple as a "form that you will fill out" in order to create this AT (so no need to even understand programming at all).

It isn't easy to understand Internet 2.0 as we have all become so used to Internet 1.0 but hopefully people will see that "centralised websites" are going to have to become "a thing of the past".

No probleme with that, i even hope this is our future, i'm ok to become one thing of the past after some month if decentralized web become real.
But for now, NXTstarter can be a nice windows for everyone, where we can see what is going on.

NXTstarter could be a platform to showcase the projects but isn't involved in the payment process.

Yes it can be that.
More Better, NXTstarter work with all crypto, so there is also some thing to do here.

While i think this project is nice, I am a bit skeptic, that your numbers will match reality. Within 2 years 2% of all NXT will have to go through your platform. While possible, i doubt it. Care to convince me?

In the realworld, crowfunding websites are also not very successful.

It is very ambitious plan, but remember all crypto are allowed on this webiste.

If you successfully establish a good image as a kickstarter platform, then I can see you succeding! Because BTC is already a big market.

Nice!

[CIYAM]

The internet 2.0 sounds impractical for big bandwith usage, or am i wrong?

I think if you look at projects like MaidSafe or Bitcloud (the latter would be my preferred approach) you can see that this is actually *very practical* when done the right way.

[salsacz]

The internet 2.0 sounds impractical for big bandwith usage, or am i wrong?

I think if you look at projects like MaidSafe or Bitcloud (the latter would be my preferred approach) you can see that this is actually *very practical* when done the right way.

nice to hear this, CIYAM, you are invited to the project: https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/nxt-solutions-of-decentralized-internet-show-nxt-faces/

You surely know the alfa version of the video: http://youtu.be/RtTWUwRL9mQ

Now when we have a long version, it would be wise to create only a short version (4-6 minutes), so who would like, he could see the alfa then.

The goal is - to replace those guys by our faces. So I am looking for volunteers who could speak like those people in the video - about Nxt or about ideas behind decentralized Nxt (see http://justpaste.it/nxt-decentralized-internet). You just need few minutes of time, nice place and a nice camera. It is a nice coincidence that Ethereum also published similar video, but after I published alfa : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMBtKMZYdN8

And anyone else. Watch the video, be inspired, record yourself with your ideas, send me a youtube link

[TwinWinNerD]

The internet 2.0 sounds impractical for big bandwith usage, or am i wrong?

I think if you look at projects like MaidSafe or Bitcloud (the latter would be my preferred approach) you can see that this is actually *very practical* when done the right way.

I have read some coverage about bitcloud/MaidSafe, and my concern is the scalability if it becomes mainstream. But then again Devs are very creative and will come up with a solution.

*the future is exiting!!!*

[igmaca]

Internet 2.0

Nxt Decentralized P2P Internet Network.

is the idea that I would like "nxt" to become 

[chanc3r]

Internet 2.0

Nxt Decentralized P2P Internet Network.

is the idea that I would like "nxt" to become 

Nxternet?

[TwinWinNerD]

Internet 2.0

Nxt Decentralized P2P Internet Network.

is the idea that I would like "nxt" to become 

Nxternet?

InterNXT

[igmaca]

internet2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2

internet2 operates the Internet2 Network,[8] an Internet Protocol network using optical fiber that delivers network services for research and education, and provides a secure network testing and research environment. In late 2007, Internet2 began operating its newest dynamic circuit network, the Internet2 DCN, an advanced technology that allows user-based allocation of data circuits over the fiber-optic network.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Internet 2.0 is "decentralised" with no DNS system (the reason I don't like unique aliases) and no centralised CA cert system as well as no centralised big servers running such services.

FYI - http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~ravenben/publications/dissertation/dissertation.pdf

[redsn0w]

internet2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2

internet2 operates the Internet2 Network,[8] an Internet Protocol network using optical fiber that delivers network services for research and education, and provides a secure network testing and research environment. In late 2007, Internet2 began operating its newest dynamic circuit network, the Internet2 DCN, an advanced technology that allows user-based allocation of data circuits over the fiber-optic network.

 

[CIYAM]

Internet 2.0 is "decentralised" with no DNS system (the reason I don't like unique aliases) and no centralised CA cert system as well as no centralised big servers running such services.

FYI - http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~ravenben/publications/dissertation/dissertation.pdf

Can't see the relevance to unique aliases in that dissertation - like to quote some particular parts of it?

(also it was authored in 2004 so years before Bitcoin even existed)

[Come-from-Beyond]

Can't see the relevance to unique aliases in that dissertation - like to quote some particular parts of it?

(also it was authored in 2004 so years before Bitcoin even existed)

They don't explicitly state that non-unique aliases (aka names) won't work but I have a feeling that at any given time u must have unique aliases or routing will be broken. How uniqueness of aliases is achieved - another question.