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April 05, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
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You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account.  In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

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April 05, 2014, 06:28:11 PM
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You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account.  In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

Sweet. I'm sure I'm the first to unintentionally donate.

This coin just gets worse and worse. It's like reading about ripple.

Wonder if "he" runs a program to check for easy passwords that aren't blank as well.
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April 05, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
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You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account.  In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

I think this is so really stupid argument. If I want to donate it, I would rather donate it to someone I know, rather to random hacker running a bot by sending them to "null" account.

I doubt anyone sending nxt to "null" account are donating it. They are all new users making the same mistake.  There is no point in arguing it's  not a problem. Brain Wallet by itself is a for very advanced users who understand entropy.  

It should be make much harder for users to just enter any random (or nothing) as pass phrase

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April 05, 2014, 06:32:15 PM
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You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account.  In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

I think this is so really stupid argument. If I want to donate it, I would rather donate it to someone I know, rather to random hacker running a bot by sending them to "null" account.

I doubt anyone sending nxt to "null" account are donating it. They are all new users making the same mistake.

It was done a few times in the beginning, but yes most are just mistakes!
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April 05, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
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The brainwallet problem is know since the first day of the launch, where i was the first to point out it's problem. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3695236#msg3695236


The current state of wesley client is better than original client, but it's still not enough.
We really need a wallet.dat.


My 40,000 NXT bounty still hold. (When wallet.dat is integrated in official client AND is the default option )

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April 05, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
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Why is it so hard to eliminate? Just changing the OP would take 5 seconds of someone's time. I wouldn't have chosen that download if it wasn't on the first page of this thread.

You don't build the reputation of a new coin by letting poorly crafted software screw newbies out of their new coins.
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April 05, 2014, 06:35:03 PM
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You mean someone that wants to donate to the millionares that created this thing can't be bothered to enter an account #?!? Color me skeptical. Do we even know who owns that non account?

everyone owns that account, you know how to enter it yourself Wink

If you send NXT there, than the first person to detect that, will send the NXT to his own account.  In your case the NXT went to this account: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=15403621473314136443

Maybe he runs a program that checks the "easy" account numbers for incoming transfers.

I think this is so really stupid argument. If I want to donate it, I would rather donate it to someone I know, rather to random hacker running a bot by sending them to "null" account.

I doubt anyone sending nxt to "null" account are donating it. They are all new users making the same mistake.

It was done a few times in the beginning, but yes most are just mistakes!

I have sent some <10 NXTs to this account to get rid of them in the beginning of NXT to test things. Now i just donate to specific guys. But you can actually see, that there are nearly NO transactions to easy accounts anymore.

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April 05, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
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Why is it so hard to eliminate? Just changing the OP would take 5 seconds of someone's time. I wouldn't have chosen that download if it wasn't on the first page of this thread.

You don't build the reputation of a new coin by letting poorly crafted software screw newbies out of their new coins.

I will get the OP changed ok?

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April 05, 2014, 06:38:10 PM
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Why is it so hard to eliminate? Just changing the OP would take 5 seconds of someone's time. I wouldn't have chosen that download if it wasn't on the first page of this thread.

You don't build the reputation of a new coin by letting poorly crafted software screw newbies out of their new coins.

I will get the OP changed ok?

It's ok with me. Can anyone explain why it wasn't changed months ago? How long has a superior windows client existed?
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April 05, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
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Why is it so hard to eliminate? Just changing the OP would take 5 seconds of someone's time. I wouldn't have chosen that download if it wasn't on the first page of this thread.

You don't build the reputation of a new coin by letting poorly crafted software screw newbies out of their new coins.

I will get the OP changed ok?

It's ok with me. Can anyone explain why it wasn't changed months ago? How long has a superior windows client existed?

Just checked, it is right there?



What exactely do you want to have changed?

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April 05, 2014, 06:39:22 PM
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My 40,000 NXT bounty still hold. (When wallet.dat is integrated in official client AND is the default option )

There is wallet.dat with offspring.

The built-in client (which as has been said many times was supposed to be temp) can't have wallet.dat as it runs from a browser with restricted access to hardrive.  

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April 05, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
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Also one of the places newbies start out is the subreddit /r/NXT, the first link directly leads to the nxtclient.org link



I don't really know, what more we can do. (Besides changing the nxtcrypto.org page)

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April 05, 2014, 06:47:31 PM
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<sigh>

The level of arrogance here is repulsive.

Change this:



I just snapped that btw so don't tell me noobs aren't being led to a sh1t client.

I've downloaded exactly one next client ever and it's crap. I was led to that download link by the OP in this very thread.
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April 05, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
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<sigh>

The level of arrogance here is repulsive.

Change this:



I just snapped that btw so don't tell me noobs aren't being led to a sh1t client.

yes but you said that the OP doesn't say anything about alternative clients, and there is a link with a full collection of all.

We will obviously not remove the link the core server client?!?

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April 05, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
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<sigh>

The level of arrogance here is repulsive.

Change this:



I just snapped that btw so don't tell me noobs aren't being led to a sh1t client.

yes but you said that the OP doesn't say anything about alternative clients, and there is a link with a full collection of all.

We will obviously not remove the link the core server client?!?

I didn't actually. Can you provide a quote of me saying that? I won't hold my breath.

If I'd known the client I was downloading was so poorly written it'd display someone else's account number so readily I'd have been more careful or downloaded a superior client.

n/m pretty sure I'm wasting my time with this mess of a coin. I'll move on to the next 100% premine.
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April 05, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
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 Roll Eyes
personally I think this solarion troll is less funny than Emule,
even the FCs had more fun factor,
or could this be one of the FCs  Huh


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April 05, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
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My 40,000 NXT bounty still hold. (When wallet.dat is integrated in official client AND is the default option )

There is wallet.dat with offspring.

The built-in client (which as has been said many times was supposed to be temp) can't have wallet.dat as it runs from a browser with restricted access to hardrive.  

I will be providing :

- Open source browser extensions that will be able to read and write a wallet.dat.
- Windows, mac and linux standalone apps that will be able to read and write a wallet.dat.

Now for a browser only, the best that can be done is to save the wallet in the localStorage or indexedDb/WebSQL. Is that a good option? The user should be forced to backup the wallet on creation. Or allow logging in via drag and drop of a wallet.dat like file.
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April 05, 2014, 06:56:28 PM
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My 40,000 NXT bounty still hold. (When wallet.dat is integrated in official client AND is the default option )

There is wallet.dat with offspring.

The built-in client (which as has been said many times was supposed to be temp) can't have wallet.dat as it runs from a browser with restricted access to hardrive.  

I will be providing :

- Open source browser extensions that will be able to read and write a wallet.dat.
- Windows, mac and linux standalone apps that will be able to read and write a wallet.dat.

Now for a browser only, the best that can be done is to save the wallet in the localStorage or indexedDb/WebSQL. Is that a good option? The user should be forced to backup the wallet on creation.

Don't include wallet.dat with browser version. It's more dangerous than forcing user to save the password. The user will clear his cache and lose his account, then come back here telling us why nxt sucks.


If someone wants wallet.dat, they should download the desktop version.

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April 05, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
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My 40,000 NXT bounty still hold. (When wallet.dat is integrated in official client AND is the default option )

There is wallet.dat with offspring.

The built-in client (which as has been said many times was supposed to be temp) can't have wallet.dat as it runs from a browser with restricted access to hardrive.  

I will be providing :

- Open source browser extensions that will be able to read and write a wallet.dat.
- Windows, mac and linux standalone apps that will be able to read and write a wallet.dat.

Now for a browser only, the best that can be done is to save the wallet in the localStorage or indexedDb/WebSQL. Is that a good option? The user should be forced to backup the wallet on creation.

Don't include wallet.dat with browser version. It's more dangerous than forcing user to save the password. The user will clear his cache and lose his account, then come back here telling us why nxt sucks.


If someone wants wallet.dat, they should download the desktop version.


That's why I said the user should be FORCED to back it up.
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April 05, 2014, 06:59:16 PM
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<sigh>

The level of arrogance here is repulsive.

Change this:



I just snapped that btw so don't tell me noobs aren't being led to a sh1t client.

yes but you said that the OP doesn't say anything about alternative clients, and there is a link with a full collection of all.

We will obviously not remove the link the core server client?!?

I didn't actually. Can you provide a quote of me saying that? I won't hold my breath.

If I'd known the client I was downloading was so poorly written it'd display someone else's account number so readily I'd have been more careful or downloaded a superior client.

n/m pretty sure I'm wasting my time with this mess of a coin. I'll move on to the next 100% premine.

I am sorry this wonderful coin isn't fit for you.

You will surely find a coin that suits you.

Take care buddy

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