NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[solarion]

That was sarcasm bud. It's a simple number string easily verified with cryptsy. The account # they sent to is the same account number in my browser, I just never got the coins.

You are NOT logged in to the account that has the 6 word password...  is it getting any clearer now?    

Yes it's very very clear. The account # that's showing up on MY COMPUTER and in MY BROWSER belongs to someone else. And now that someone else has MY COINS. This software is garbage.

Is *THAT* in any way unclear?

Was this dogshit software never ever tested?!? Holy shit.

[Mistafreeze]

If there is one thing that I've learned in my time here, it's that people will never take responsibility for their own stupidity.

Your coins would've been gone with every single other coin if you sent them to the wrong (yet valid) address........think about that for a second before you unleash your next idiotic post.

[Sebastien256]

Just a reminder if you did not have done it yet.

Please go vote on the Nxt slogans (second round, some rules change!):
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-slogans-poll-(second-round)/

Note that you can now change your vote later after viewing the poll results and after reading the ideas in the poll thread.

Voting close: April 08, 2014

Before voting, you can read this (at least the first link) to understand what type of slogan is needed for Nxt:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-needs-got-milk/
http://www.simplimation.com/blog/9/how-to-create-an-unforgettable-slogan
http://www.inc.com/guides/201101/new-rules-of-writing-a-memorable-slogan.html
http://www.adslogans.co.uk/ans/index.html
http://www.adslogans.co.uk/hof/2003.html
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Advertising_slogans
http://www.thinkslogans.com/slogans/advertising-slogans/

Nothing is official, but before posting in the poll thread, please read the first post of the thread. As damelon said, you can see this process as a game.

You can suggest new slogan that will be added on a next poll. But, in order to be listed on the next poll, you must read the rules which are given in the first post. Otherwise your slogan might only be considered as a brainstorming idea.

More importantly than voting, please consider leaving your opinion on the poll thread.

People are invite to critic the various slogans in poll! Come here and critic people ideas. But stay polite.

I'll post this message in the thread every couple of days for advertising.

Thanks

[solarion]

If there is one thing that I've learned in my time here, it's that people will never take responsibility for their own stupidity.

Your coins would've been gone with every single other coin if you sent them to the wrong (yet valid) address........think about that for a second before you unleash your next idiotic post.

Doesn't fucking matter. If you grab a btc client and do NOTHING but send to the default receiving address it works fine. This *THING* claims to be btc 2.0 but doesn't have the most rudimentary of safeguards.

It'd be lulzy if it wasn't so pathetic.

[solarion]

That was sarcasm bud. It's a simple number string easily verified with cryptsy. The account # they sent to is the same account number in my browser, I just never got the coins.

You are NOT logged in to the account that has the 6 word password...  is it getting any clearer now?    

Yes it's very very clear. The account # that's showing up on MY COMPUTER and in MY BROWSER belongs to someone else. And now that someone else has MY COINS. This software is garbage.

Is *THAT* in any way unclear?

Since you like Caps...  let me put it this way...  THAT IS NOT YOUR ACCOUNT!!!    


Hint:  Log out...  enter your 6 word password...  see for yourself that you withdrew to another account.

WTF IS THAT ACCOUNT NUMBER ON MY SCREEN THEN?!?

How can the software be so stupid as to clearly display an account number that already belongs to someone else?!?

[Sebastien256]

If there is one thing that I've learned in my time here, it's that people will never take responsibility for their own stupidity.

Your coins would've been gone with every single other coin if you sent them to the wrong (yet valid) address........think about that for a second before you unleash your next idiotic post.

Doesn't fucking matter. If you grab a btc client and do NOTHING but send to the default receiving address it works fine. This *THING* claims to be btc 2.0 but doesn't have the most rudimentary of safeguards.

It'd be lulzy if it wasn't so pathetic.

god, nxt is in alpha-beta phase. Please be careful next time with alpha-beta software.

[solarion]

If there is one thing that I've learned in my time here, it's that people will never take responsibility for their own stupidity.

Your coins would've been gone with every single other coin if you sent them to the wrong (yet valid) address........think about that for a second before you unleash your next idiotic post.

Doesn't fucking matter. If you grab a btc client and do NOTHING but send to the default receiving address it works fine. This *THING* claims to be btc 2.0 but doesn't have the most rudimentary of safeguards.

It'd be lulzy if it wasn't so pathetic.

god, nxt is in alpha-beta phase. Please be careful next time with alpha-beta software.

Too late. Thanks for the warning though. I'll steer clear in the future and make others aware of the lack of sophistication this software suffers from.

[solarion]

Why does the software allow that?!? Why does the software show an account number then?

This is not an evolution of bitcoin if it lacks even that basic safeguard. Hasn't this thing been around for months?!?

[solarion]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

[wesleyh]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

What was your password? Which software did you use?

[zorke]

FOR ALL OF THE NEWCOMERS - WE HAVE MOVED TO A NEW FORUM!

                       https://nxtforum.org/

JUST SO YOU DON'T GET DISCOURAGED BY LOOKING AT THIS THREAD.

DEVELOPMENT IS STILL GOING ON!!

[TwinWinNerD]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

How would the software know that it needs to warn you?

The account without a passphrase is a valid account.

[Mistafreeze]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

I, for one, subscribe to Darwinism. Frankly, society protects the inept from themselves too much. Pay attention to what it is you're doing. Sheesh.

[Evil-Knievel]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

It warns you clearly by telling you "that a too short passphrase will result in your coins stolen".
I have personally verified this a minute ago.

[msin]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

We should put this guy on our dev team, he's obviously a genius and has found a new bug that not even a child has yet to discover. 

[solarion]

They weren't stolen though. They were sent to someone else because next software sucks.

Absolutely stupid that the software would display someone else's account number on my screen as though it were mine. This will not test well amongst the uninitiated.

Keep up with the cognitive dissonance guys, this is a serious problem with this software if you ever expect mass adoption. If months of testing hasn't made this plainly obvious, then just run away.

[solarion]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

It warns you clearly by telling you "that a too short passphrase will result in your coins stolen".
I have personally verified this a minute ago.

...then it boldly displays someone else's account number. Brilliant.

Seriously, this is a grade school programming error. I wouldn't trust the author of this software with a dime.

[Evil-Knievel]

Why doesn't the software just warn you and *NOT* show an account number? How would I know it's someone elses?

This is the most rudimentary of safeguards we're talking about. People have been bashing on btc for not being simple enough for the uninitiated for years, yet btc 2.0 is even worse?!?

It warns you clearly by telling you "that a too short passphrase will result in your coins stolen".
I have personally verified this a minute ago.

...then it boldly displays someone else's account number. Brilliant.

Seriously, this is a grade school programming error. I wouldn't trust the author of this software with a dime.

No, it has been programmed on purpose.

The idea behind the whole this is, that account numbers are not connected to your computer, but connected to your password. This way you can use NXT from any public computer on the go spontaneously, without having to import/export any keys whatsoever.

Every password has it's unique account number attached to it.
If you pick a short passwort (or no password) other people will be able to guess it, and take your coins.

That's exactly why you are adviced (clearly in text form) to use a very strong password, that nobody else will ever guess or type in by accident.

But I agree with you: This point must be made clearer in the software, maybe some gauge should be used to indicate the currently typed in password strength, etc.

[Eadeqa]

Yes copy and pasted got it wrong and I just happen to have sent 1593 from cryptsy yesterday and that less 1 in transaction fees was sent by cryptsy.

This thing is a failure. Total failure. Bye guys, thanks for the help. RUN. AWAY. This thing will never ever work for mass adoption. Those are the first coins of any type I've ever had stolen and I have a dozen blockchains downloaded. Grandma won't have a clue what hit her.

well that's too bad, it should be your fault if you didn't double check, if you tried to do a international wire transfer and put a wrong account account no. you won't get it back, and you won't have anyone to blame.

crypto is new stuff and still in development, its not really super user friendly at this stage, i would have tried sending 1nxt just for testing it out first, unless i don't care if i had lost 1,000nxt then i would have send 1,000 at first try..

if its a account collision then its a whole different story but i doubt this is what happened.

Actually, Reed  Solomon format (if we had implemented it yet) would have saved him from copyi and pastie error.

Once again, basic must to do stuff is very slow in coming,  


 

[solarion]

No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?

If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?

This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship. That should've been found and weeded out last year.