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December 29, 2013, 03:19:23 AM |
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utopianfuture,
Why is defending marketing attacks against NXT lower in priority? What is more important that the public's perception of NXT? Perception is reality, especially in crypto
If people's first impression is what yuri's of the world spread, that would severely lighten the load on the NXT servers. There are over one hundred altcoins plus bitcoin itself and presumably other challenges ahead for NXT. We cannot stay 100% tech oriented and just count on the public to accept NXT.
Distributed servers, distributed development all very good. However, distributed marketing is essentially no marketing. Is that what the NXT community wants? If so, let's just take down all the wikis, videos, etc. Just publish the source code and be done with the public.
Do we want NXT to grow to what it is capable of? If so, we MUST defend ourselves and establish the market position NXT deserves. NXT is up and running, NXT has an active user base. NXT has an active trading volume. NXT has the second generation features that no other coin currently has. I estimate at most a three month window of opportunity for NXT to capture the slot of being the next bitcoin.
Of course we need servers, but we also need good concentrated laser beam marketing.
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:20:05 AM |
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Ripple instructions for people with ripple accounts Go to: http://dev.peercover.com/#/simpleGatewayclick on the NXT tab For deposit: select deposit Add trust for the amount of NXT you want to deposit to ra9eZxMbJrUcgV8ui7aPc161FgrqWScQxV put in your email address and click "deposit NXT" and follow instructions instructions will show NXT address to send NXT to as soon as it arrives it will be automatically sent to your ripple wallet James well, that's for ppl who want to sell nxt. In my case, I already have XRPs in my wallet, and I want to buy nxt using these XRPs, How do I let your system know that?
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December 29, 2013, 03:21:13 AM |
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newcn,
just go to the trade page in the ripple wallet type in "NXT/XRP" issuer peercovers id put in buy offer
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:22:30 AM |
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utopianfuture,
Why is defending marketing attacks against NXT lower in priority? What is more important that the public's perception of NXT? Perception is reality, especially in crypto
If people's first impression is what yuri's of the world spread, that would severely lighten the load on the NXT servers. There are over one hundred altcoins plus bitcoin itself and presumably other challenges ahead for NXT. We cannot stay 100% tech oriented and just count on the public to accept NXT.
Distributed servers, distributed development all very good. However, distributed marketing is essentially no marketing. Is that what the NXT community wants? If so, let's just take down all the wikis, videos, etc. Just publish the source code and be done with the public.
Do we want NXT to grow to what it is capable of? If so, we MUST defend ourselves and establish the market position NXT deserves. NXT is up and running, NXT has an active user base. NXT has an active trading volume. NXT has the second generation features that no other coin currently has. I estimate at most a three month window of opportunity for NXT to capture the slot of being the next bitcoin.
Of course we need servers, but we also need good concentrated laser beam marketing.
James
Did I send you my "first document" ? If not I am going to.
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December 29, 2013, 03:27:02 AM |
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newcn,
just go to the trade page in the ripple wallet type in "NXT/XRP" issuer peercovers id put in buy offer
James
ok, the question remains, how do I relate my existing ripple wallet to my account? note, I don't want to create a new one, I only found CREATE option on your site.
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December 29, 2013, 03:30:40 AM |
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Maybe CfB can comment on the dev team's desire to manage a NXT marketing campaign?
I've programmed a lot of C code, from an entire C compiler to a realtime forex trading system. The NXT team is doing quite well and even though I could probably contribute in some minor ways on the technical side, my strength is more on the strategic marketing and finance side. I play chess at 2200 FIDE level. This means I can easily beat 99% of the people in the world at chess, but I get crushed by 1%. the NXT dev team is full of world class grandmasters, the last thing they need is some weak master slowing them down.
If we all had a 100% technology focus, we won't maximize the value of NXT. We all need to do the things that we can do well that will most leverage everything else that is going on. That means server people can do servers. dev people develop tech. communications people communicate. people who just want to help can support newbies. Everybody can contribute and each contribution makes NXT more valuable for all of us.
I am sure I see a gaping hole in what NXT is doing and that is in the strategic marketing. The wiki, videos, etc. are all fantastic starts and we just need to tweak the message to create a positive image for NXT. Companies that have nothing positive to offer manage to have very positive images. NXT is so positive in so many ways, it won't be hard to obtain the positive image it deserves.
However, we can't ignore it.
The "greedy founders" rhetoric is one of the few potential stumbling blocks that I see and I want to fix it so instead of being a negative or at best neutral story, it is totally positive. The unclaimed NXT represents potentially millions of dollars that can be painlessly given away by the founders.
Please some founders, can you provide some feedback?
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:32:24 AM |
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newcn,
just go to the trade page in the ripple wallet type in "NXT/XRP" issuer peercovers id put in buy offer
James
sorry. I didn't read carefully about your message. but in the trade page inside ripple, from the menu list, I can not find a XRP/NXT exchange! what should I do?
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December 29, 2013, 03:33:02 AM |
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newcn,
If you want to just purchase NXT via ripple, you don't need to use peercover's site. I work with them, I am not actually part of peercover.
In ripple you can type in any currency combination in the dropdown, so type in "NXT/XRP" and select peercover as the issuer.
There is no need to go to peercover site until you want to withdraw.
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:34:27 AM |
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newcn,
NXT is not in the dropdown, so you have to manually type it in. it is casesensitive. Also please understand it is still under beta test and there are not too many offers active yet. Soon there will be as so far everything appears to be working fine.
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:38:14 AM |
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I read aldrin's post and I don't even know what to say. You shouldn't just sell but also contribute to NXT's cause. I have not seen you much.
You don't know what to say because you don't know anything about me - my age, my skill level, my life commitments, my domestic circumstances. You don't know what I'm doing to help NXT, but it sounds like you have made some assumptions, and some judgments too. I offered some feedback relevant to genuine concerns people have raised about big stake holders hoarding, and the damage it would do to NXT.
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December 29, 2013, 03:38:27 AM |
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newcn,
NXT is not in the dropdown, so you have to manually type it in. it is casesensitive. Also please understand it is still under beta test and there are not too many offers active yet. Soon there will be as so far everything appears to be working fine.
James
thank you very much! I finally success by typing XRP/NXT(but failed by typing NXT/XRP)
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December 29, 2013, 03:40:23 AM |
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![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Only 200 aliases... I feel I should have at least twice that. Some are registering hourly,,, some others are not adding though. Could it take more than 24 hours to update? See someone locked in Sakura in all 30 plus ways it can be written ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still got an alt of it in 1337
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December 29, 2013, 03:41:49 AM |
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NXT is very features, But the client can upgrade more easy to use?
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December 29, 2013, 03:43:35 AM |
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NXT is very features, But the client can upgrade more easy to use?
It will be something like this, but I don't know when they will launch it. Maybe 3rd january? Can you confirm CfB? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F87.230.14.1%2Fcharts%2F01_screen.png&t=665&c=k2GZYlPW1vi5jg)
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December 29, 2013, 03:45:06 AM |
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utopianfuture,
got the doc and it is great! A lot of PR potential from this and I want to be able to be proactive in communicating all the positive things NXT is doing, instead of being defensive.
Who is maintaining the wiki? What would it take to change the text to reflect what I am saying? Does anybody disagree violently with my interpretation? Does anybody agree? Does anybody care?
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:48:23 AM |
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I read aldrin's post and I don't even know what to say. You shouldn't just sell but also contribute to NXT's cause. I have not seen you much.
You don't know what to say because you don't know anything about me - my age, my skill level, my life commitments, my domestic circumstances. You don't know what I'm doing to help NXT, but it sounds like you have made some assumptions, and some judgments too. I offered some feedback relevant to genuine concerns people have raised about big stake holders hoarding, and the damage it would do to NXT. You need to be more active. I am saying that not because I envy you. I don't. But NXT cause deserves more from you. BCNext expects more from you. You can justify whatever you want but when BCNext threatened to leave, he was aiming at you.
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December 29, 2013, 03:51:10 AM |
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utopianfuture,
got the doc and it is great! A lot of PR potential from this and I want to be able to be proactive in communicating all the positive things NXT is doing, instead of being defensive.
Who is maintaining the wiki? What would it take to change the text to reflect what I am saying? Does anybody disagree violently with my interpretation? Does anybody agree? Does anybody care?
James
James, did you already join next coin forum? There are many people there working to support NXT. You could join in the ongoing efforts.
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December 29, 2013, 03:54:08 AM |
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is is possible to use a bitmask or network mask of some sort in allowedUserHosts to allow a whole /24 network without having to put in 255 addresses?
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December 29, 2013, 03:59:42 AM |
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Is anybody familiar with the marketing concept of positioning? It is what big companies spend millions of dollars to achieve the top spot in a ladder of products. I say cola, you say either Coke or Pepsi. There are probably dozens of other colas, but those are the two that people automatically respond with.
This is no accident. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent and sometimes misspent, remember New Coke, just to get people to remember their product.
NXT needs to establish the top position in a strong positive category. I have a plan on how to achieve a very powerful position for NXT that will allow it to eventually exceed bitcoin's market cap. I would think that most people reading this forum would kind of like that. However, I get the sense that maybe the community wants to just focus on the tech and not bother with messy marketing stuff.
I would love to be able to work 100% on NXT, but it seems that the community doesn't feel like it is important or maybe I am not the right person, then somebody else do this. NXT needs marketing focus or it will be the best crypto that the public doesn't want.
James
P.S. utopianfuture, following this thread is taking up all my available time. Unless I am able to spend fulltime on NXT, I doubt I can expand my scope.
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