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January 17, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
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BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.


good idea
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January 17, 2014, 05:39:47 PM
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Come-from-Beyond:
once you said something like: BCNext's code looks like it was programmed by someone who was programming a lot in (language I don't remember) in the 1990s... I cannot find this citation now. Do you remember what language it was? Cheesy

http://www.reddit.com/r/nxtcoin/comments/1toz2d/warning_nxt_source_code_is_very_low_quality/ceafrr3

oh I forgot it wasn't here. So that's why I think BCNext is 35+ years old Cheesy
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January 17, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
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Important announcement

BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.


good idea

nope, it is genial, as always!
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January 17, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
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Important announcement

BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.

Do it!
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January 17, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
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Important announcement

BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.


good idea

nope, it is genial, as always!

ok, sorry  Cry
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January 17, 2014, 05:44:56 PM
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Important announcement

BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.

I'm in favor Smiley
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January 17, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
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Important announcement

BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.

Sounds good!

Make sure you define and communicate the requirements for being one of the chosen ones. Reaction times and non-disclosure come to my mind.
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January 17, 2014, 05:52:47 PM
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I wonder, will this thread ever be published as a book?..

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January 17, 2014, 05:53:03 PM
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Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

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January 17, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
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Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

I am going to readd this feature now.
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January 17, 2014, 05:55:05 PM
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Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

The same. Sent the letter 3 days ago.
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January 17, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
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Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4386203#msg4386203

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January 17, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
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I wonder, will this thread ever be published as a book?..

It will be called "The Wheel of Time, the Sequel"

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January 17, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
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Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

The same. Sent the letter 3 days ago.

Account I was sending an e-mail was fnxtcrypto at gmail. I've somehow stumbled upon it somewhere...

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January 17, 2014, 06:01:36 PM
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I wonder, will this thread ever be published as a book?..

I suggest to entitle it "No, I'm not BCNext"

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January 17, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
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Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

I am going to readd this feature now.

well it looks like the option to change password (if you already know existing one) was already added.  to reset password required mail server to be configured for the box.  Im not the unix admin on that box so I cant do that.  I will ask BTC24 about this.
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January 17, 2014, 06:07:28 PM
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I wonder, will this thread ever be published as a book?..

I suggest to entitle it "No, I'm not BCNext"
Or : "No , I'm not BCnext or CfB..."

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January 17, 2014, 06:08:35 PM
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I wonder, will this thread ever be published as a book?..

I suggest to entitle it "No, I'm not BCNext"

Hahaha
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January 17, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
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@salsacz:

I've seen ur Nxt Myths project. U wrote that it will be based on citations. If u r going to cite me then u should consult with a Russian speaking person. The problem is that some words, that r different in English ("may", "can", for example) r the same in Russian ("мoжeт"). My text may (or can?) have another sense meaning and only Russians will get what I mean coz they would do the same mistake...
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January 17, 2014, 06:14:17 PM
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Important announcement

BCNext devised a way to handover unclaimed coins in such a way that doesn't require multisig and still keeps the spirit of decentralization.

BCNext will choose 10 people. I'll contact these people privately to ask for an account id. Each of them will create a special account and send it to me. 1M NXT will be sent to each account (10M total, not 9M, so the community is supposed to subsidize the public nodes by itself). Jean-Luc will be asked to add a special code that blocks outgoing transactions from these special accounts. When the community decides how to spend part of the unclaimed coins, Jean-Luc will change the code to allow partial withdrawals possible. 10 chosen ones will send 1/10th of the required amount to the account the funds r supposed to go to.

Notes: Only account ids will be published, names of the people who control them will be known only to BCNext and me. Jean-Luc won't be included into this group. The goal of this obscurity is to remove community pressure on the chosen ones.

Discuss, the community may put veto on this approach.

Bad idea. REALLY BAD IDEA to change the client software and hard-define transaction rules inside the client. Am i alone who think so?

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